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Oct 18, 2023 11:51:50   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Hal Masover wrote:
It's not. The one I bought about a month ago only has 9,600 shutter count. Shot a wedding with it and while the controls are a little different than the D750, it's only a little. I had planned to shoot the wedding with a D750 and D600. When I started shooting the D750's hotshoe failed so I grabbed the D850, which I'd only had for a week at that point. If you've never shot a wedding, it's rather intense in regards to equipment usage. Close to non-stop shooting for hours. With the D750 and D600, they are so similar that I rarely know which one I'm using. Shooting a wedding with the D850 and D600 the experience was similar, though a little more pronounced. But really, it's not a factor. So what if the ISO button is on top instead of down the left side? It's not like I change ISO much during a wedding.

And I found a used D750 with only 2,800 clicks on the shutter. Amazing. I guess it was owned by the proverbial little old lady who only drove it to church on Sundays. Trading in my old D750 as is, and a couple of lenses I never use and my out of pocket is just a few hundred - and I end up with a like new D750.

The only problem I'm finding is that I'm finding that there is almost zero market for my D600. It's in very good condition but the used camera places didn't want it and looking on Ebay the few on there have close to zero bids on them. I know the D600 had problems when new but mine was repaired by Nikon and zero problems since. So, I don't know. Might donate it to a school. It also raises the possibility that in a few years when I go to buy a used Z8 there won't be any market for the D750 anymore, but, as someone recently said, "I'll burn that bridge when I come to it."

Would I be better off with 2 D850's? It's open to debate. I only shoot about 10 weddings a year. For portrait work I only use one body. And for travel I really like the lower weight of the D750. So yeah, the model is at least partly obsolete but it still produces some of the best image quality with one of the largest dynamic range.
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I am happy that you have found a solution that works for you. Hopefully you will be able to find a home for your D600. I bought a used D610 when I first decided to try full frame, but decided after about two days that there was no way it was going to work for me. The list of reasons was quite long. Fortunately, I was able to trade it for a D810, which worked out much better. Unfortunately, a lot of retailers have back rooms stacked to the ceiling right now with mirror-box cameras that they have taken in trade for mirrorless cameras. Several stores in Texas are no longer accepting them in trade or purchasing them at all. It's possible that the market might change, but that might take a while. Your best option might be to find a nice compact lens and take advantage of the D600's reduced size forf a discrete "project camera," or perhaps for capturing candid shots at weddings.

While I still have and use the D810, my main cameras now are D500s and D850s. They have some control refinements that make them much nicer to shoot, and I do not miss the pop-up flash anywhere near as much as I thought. I've got a couple of SB-400s that I can quickly pull out if necessary. They are stronger, wider, and don't create a shadow from being too close to the lens when using shorter focal lengths, even with their low-profile design.

Anyway...have fun with your new camera.

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Oct 18, 2023 12:00:27   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Hal Masover wrote:
It's not. The one I bought about a month ago only has 9,600 shutter count. Shot a wedding with it and while the controls are a little different than the D750, it's only a little. I had planned to shoot the wedding with a D750 and D600. When I started shooting the D750's hotshoe failed so I grabbed the D850, which I'd only had for a week at that point. If you've never shot a wedding, it's rather intense in regards to equipment usage. Close to non-stop shooting for hours. With the D750 and D600, they are so similar that I rarely know which one I'm using. Shooting a wedding with the D850 and D600 the experience was similar, though a little more pronounced. But really, it's not a factor. So what if the ISO button is on top instead of down the left side? It's not like I change ISO much during a wedding.

And I found a used D750 with only 2,800 clicks on the shutter. Amazing. I guess it was owned by the proverbial little old lady who only drove it to church on Sundays. Trading in my old D750 as is, and a couple of lenses I never use and my out of pocket is just a few hundred - and I end up with a like new D750.

The only problem I'm finding is that I'm finding that there is almost zero market for my D600. It's in very good condition but the used camera places didn't want it and looking on Ebay the few on there have close to zero bids on them. I know the D600 had problems when new but mine was repaired by Nikon and zero problems since. So, I don't know. Might donate it to a school. It also raises the possibility that in a few years when I go to buy a used Z8 there won't be any market for the D750 anymore, but, as someone recently said, "I'll burn that bridge when I come to it."

Would I be better off with 2 D850's? It's open to debate. I only shoot about 10 weddings a year. For portrait work I only use one body. And for travel I really like the lower weight of the D750. So yeah, the model is at least partly obsolete but it still produces some of the best image quality with one of the largest dynamic range.
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Little old lady on Sundays, LOL. A great euphemism for the UHH community who regularly posts for-sale cameras with sub 10K shutter counts. Personally, I shoot a pair of Canon 5DIIIs (full-frame, 22MP). I bought both lightly used nearly 10 years ago. Both report over 120K shutter usage. I thought I'd get into event shooting, but never did beyond the early years. Two identical cameras is a nice luxury, either shooting both together or keeping different lenses mounted around the house to grab for immediate needs and purposes. But mostly, I have more cameras than I can shoot, with also a Sony mirrorless and a film body.

Regarding resale value and DSLR market conditions, I'm a firm believer in unloading unused equipment as soon as the replace body has arrived. Every day one holds onto unused equipment is another day it loses more value. Only you can decide if the shooting features of the D750 justify getting another one (or a repair) and dumping the D600. Or, just hold the D600 as secondary and travel, possibly until it presents a problem and the issue is revisited. Rereading, it seems you've already grabbed another D750?

These pro-grade cameras are built to lost. Once the sensors reached the 20 to 24MP standard, we had all the 'camera' the vast majority of us will ever need. Some of us in the UHH community actually bought the final camera we'd ever need, although few in the community seem to think that way until they've wasted money on still another one.

Just some personal thoughts on the question of this thread. Mirrorless bodies are superior in their features, but the images are identical, just like most digital sensors since we reached that 20MP threshold. Good shooting ...

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Oct 18, 2023 12:03:41   #
Hal Masover Loc: Iowa and Florida
 
larryepage wrote:
I am happy that you have found a solution that works for you. Hopefully you will be able to find a home for your D600. I bought a used D610 when I first decided to try full frame, but decided after about two days that there was no way it was going to work for me. The list of reasons was quite long. Fortunately, I was able to trade it for a D810, which worked out much better. Unfortunately, a lot of retailers have back rooms stacked to the ceiling right now with mirror-box cameras that they have taken in trade for mirrorless cameras. Several stores in Texas are no longer accepting them in trade or purchasing them at all. It's possible that the market might change, but that might take a while. Your best option might be to find a nice compact lens and take advantage of the D600's reduced size forf a discrete "project camera," or perhaps for capturing candid shots at weddings.

While I still have and use the D810, my main cameras now are D500s and D850s. They have some control refinements that make them much nicer to shoot, and I do not miss the pop-up flash anywhere near as much as I thought. I've got a couple of SB-400s that I can quickly pull out if necessary. They are stronger, wider, and don't create a shadow from being too close to the lens when using shorter focal lengths, even with their low-profile design.

Anyway...have fun with your new camera.
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Oct 18, 2023 12:08:49   #
Hal Masover Loc: Iowa and Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Little old lady on Sundays, LOL. A great euphemism for the UHH community who regularly posts for-sale cameras with sub 10K shutter counts. Personally, I shoot a pair of Canon 5DIIIs (full-frame, 22MP). I bought both lightly used nearly 10 years ago. Both report over 120K shutter usage. I thought I'd get into event shooting, but never did beyond the early years. Two identical cameras is a nice luxury, either shooting both together or keeping different lenses mounted around the house to grab for immediate needs and purposes. But mostly, I have more cameras than I can shoot, with also a Sony mirrorless and a film body.

Regarding resale value and DSLR market conditions, I'm a firm believer in unloading unused equipment as soon as the replace body has arrived. Every day one holds onto unused equipment is another day it loses more value. Only you can decide if the shooting features of the D750 justify getting another one (or a repair) and dumping the D600. Or, just hold the D600 as secondary and travel, possibly until it presents a problem and the issue is revisited. Rereading, it seems you've already grabbed another D750?

These pro-grade cameras are built to lost. Once the sensors reached the 20 to 24MP standard, we had all the 'camera' the vast majority of us will ever need. Some of us in the UHH community actually bought the final camera we'd ever need, although few in the community seem to think that way until they've wasted money on still another one.

Just some personal thoughts on the question of this thread. Mirrorless bodies are superior in their features, but the images are identical, just like most digital sensors since we reached that 20MP threshold. Good shooting ...
Little old lady on Sundays, LOL. A great euphemism... (show quote)


Couldn't agree more and yes, have already ordered the lightly used D750. Do I wish it was a D850? Mixed so I'll save the money. Hard to beat 2,800 clicks on a used D750

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Oct 18, 2023 15:32:07   #
ELNikkor
 
Glad you are getting another D750, mine has served me very well the past 5 years. I was about to suggest you look at the D780, as it has a few nice upgrades over the D750, such as better low-light AF abilities. One that Ken Rockwell mentions in his review is that the D780 does not tend to generate "glow circles" around sun shots. (I was just looking at and being annoyed by the "glow circles" the D750 made around some of my eclipse photos!) The D780, however, does not have the handy built-in flash that I really appreciate having on me D750.

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Oct 18, 2023 16:41:39   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
There is really only one answer the850 is a much much better camera. Not saying the 750 isnt good but the 850 is better

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Oct 18, 2023 21:59:46   #
Judy795
 
So which one should I use for indoor rodeo photos this coming Sunday? I have the D500, D750, and D850. I like the speed of the D500, the weight of the D750, and the low light ability of the D850. Only taking one with me.

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Oct 18, 2023 22:05:56   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Judy795 wrote:
So which one should I use for indoor rodeo photos this coming Sunday? I have the D500, D750, and D850. I like the speed of the D500, the weight of the D750, and the low light ability of the D850. Only taking one with me.


Lots of folks here complain about the low light capability of the D500. I find it almost equal to the D850 and not a problem. Just don't underexpose your shots. Do turn on Anti-Flicker.

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Oct 18, 2023 22:07:08   #
Hal Masover Loc: Iowa and Florida
 
Judy795 wrote:
So which one should I use for indoor rodeo photos this coming Sunday? I have the D500, D750, and D850. I like the speed of the D500, the weight of the D750, and the low light ability of the D850. Only taking one with me.


Sounds like a Frankenstein experiment! The D57850iii? I don't own a D500 but if you're going to be taking action photos from a distance, you might want the extra reach a crop sensor gives you. The D750, as you are probably well aware, has a very small buffer. So shooting action with it can be problematic as you can't use burst mode very much.

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Oct 18, 2023 22:09:40   #
photoman43
 
For the indoor rodeo, I think the choice depends on what lens or lenses you will be using. Indoor light might mean a f2.8 vs a f4 or a f5.6 lens. If you need the extra reach from a crop sensor, take the D500. Frames per second may also be a factor too for fast moving subjects. That also might mean you take the D500 as it can do 10 fps.

Info on the lens you will be using will yield better recommendations.

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Oct 18, 2023 22:32:32   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Nikon's Authoritative DSLR Camera Hierarchy


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Oct 18, 2023 23:19:35   #
Hal Masover Loc: Iowa and Florida
 
Thomas902 wrote:
Nikon's Authoritative DSLR Camera Hierarchy


Good stuff. Thanks.

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Oct 19, 2023 07:06:50   #
Judy795
 
photoman43 wrote:
For the indoor rodeo, I think the choice depends on what lens or lenses you will be using. Indoor light might mean a f2.8 vs a f4 or a f5.6 lens.

Info on the lens you will be using will yield better recommendations.


I am taking a 70-200 F 2.8 lens. I have an unobstructed seat directly across the arena in the center where the gate opens. Since I don’t have the grip and additional battery on the D850, I am thinking to take the D500 with higher frame rate and better battery life. I love the D500, so much that I have two of them.

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Oct 19, 2023 11:10:31   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"... The D3 is a beast. So yeah, picking up a D750 after using it, it would feel small and cheap...

Hal, I would advise you to visit your favorite optometrist at your earliest convenience in as I clearly stated I shoot with the Nikon D3x (notice the "X" after the three). Released in December 2008 it remains Nikon's flagship DSLR and I'm likely going to retire while still shooting this epic DSLR (I have a pair and have used them on countless commercial assignments for well over a decade... Note that the D3x has the same resolution of your beloved D750. (I have very few clients who's requirements actually predicate that much resolution).

That said please do follow up with an ophthalmologist (specialist) if your optometrist believes you may have a more complex medical issue... I've had several colleagues suffer catastrophic vision loss due to Age-related Macular Degeneration (a devastating silent condition if not discovered in a timely manner.)

As for your beloved Nikon D750? It still is highly popular even today (October 19, 2023) and flickr statistics validate the aforementioned. See below.

Final thoughts? Hal the most valuable camera accessory I've purchased in the past decade is my flickr Pro Membership. Why? flickr allows you to search via EXIF data embedded within image files.... Thus I'm able to analyze the degree of "commercial publication quality" latent within same. This is possible both by camera body and attached lens. Publication Image Quality (I've discovered) rarely correlates 1:1 directly to popularity... However camera build quality approaches this far more accurately... I assisted many commercial photographers in my market, they all shared the same advice... Wait until the next vendor high end model release and then purchase "Old" new stock at considerable savings. Lesson's learned.

Again wishing you much success on your photographic journey Hal...
Cheers! Thomas


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Oct 19, 2023 11:20:21   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
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