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Oct 9, 2023 10:55:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Why is there such a great fear of using adapters when going to mirrorless?
Most everyone here say that lenses are "Forever" and the body can be changed out preferably.
Yet there is a desperate need to change all lenses out because of the fear of using an adapter on perfectly fine lenses. Perhaps a pixel peeper can see the difference between a mirrorless lens and a non-mirrorless lens.
I have found absolutely no issue using an adapter as it just stays on the camera. Also there is no burning desire to swap awesome lenses for other more expensive lenses just because the new camera is mirrorless.

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Oct 9, 2023 11:51:30   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
My EF lenses work fine (with adapter) on my Canon R7.

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Oct 9, 2023 11:59:30   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Why is there such a great fear of using adapters when going to mirrorless?
Most everyone here say that lenses are "Forever" and the body can be changed out preferably.
Yet there is a desperate need to change all lenses out because of the fear of using an adapter on perfectly fine lenses. Perhaps a pixel peeper can see the difference between a mirrorless lens and a non-mirrorless lens.
I have found absolutely no issue using an adapter as it just stays on the camera. Also there is no burning desire to swap awesome lenses for other more expensive lenses just because the new camera is mirrorless.
Why is there such a great fear of using adapters w... (show quote)


Like many things in UHH, it can be a few (mistaken) ideas:

1, cost of the adapter, while ignoring the cost of buying new lenses instead.

2, an assumed difference in lens performance due to the adapter, where this is true for certain older lenses dependent on a focus motor that no mirrorless lens-adapter will provide. But, the image quality is exactly the same, as no glass exists in adapters that maintain the same focal length and aperture.

3, a change in the weight / size of the adapted lens due to the addition of the lens adapter. Of course, the adapter addition is 'real', but the difference is trivial.

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Oct 9, 2023 12:07:33   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Why is there such a great fear of using adapters when going to mirrorless?
Most everyone here say that lenses are "Forever" and the body can be changed out preferably.
Yet there is a desperate need to change all lenses out because of the fear of using an adapter on perfectly fine lenses. Perhaps a pixel peeper can see the difference between a mirrorless lens and a non-mirrorless lens.
I have found absolutely no issue using an adapter as it just stays on the camera. Also there is no burning desire to swap awesome lenses for other more expensive lenses just because the new camera is mirrorless.
Why is there such a great fear of using adapters w... (show quote)


I do not think there is a real fear of adaptors. I do think there is a real fear of not spending <enough> money. This requires fabricating a fear of adaptors in order to justify uncontrolled spending on new lenses

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Oct 9, 2023 12:19:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Your desire to succeed as a photographer must be greater than your fear you can't afford the best equipment.

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Oct 9, 2023 12:31:52   #
photoman43
 
For me it is not fear. It is more a change in balance and how the camera and lens is used. Change in balance becomes an issue as the focal length of the lens increases. In my case, using an adapter for a 105mm macro lens presents no issues. For a 500mm lens, balance issues need to be addressed especially if you are using a tripod or monopod.

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Oct 9, 2023 15:58:47   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
larryepage wrote:
I do not think there is a real fear of adaptors. I do think there is a real fear of not spending <enough> money. This requires fabricating a fear of adaptors in order to justify uncontrolled spending on new lenses



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Oct 9, 2023 16:04:35   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
photoman43 wrote:
For me it is not fear. It is more a change in balance and how the camera and lens is used. Change in balance becomes an issue as the focal length of the lens increases. In my case, using an adapter for a 105mm macro lens presents no issues. For a 500mm lens, balance issues need to be addressed especially if you are using a tripod or monopod.


The thickness of the adapter has no bearing on balance. The lens is exactly the same distance from the sensor on a DSLR or MILC.
if you are that sensitive to the "Balance" you have senses of a fine machine.
The balance thing is a huge myth, a 500mm lens or wide angle no balance difference.
I say this from personal experience.

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Oct 9, 2023 16:48:51   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
photoman43 wrote:
For me it is not fear. It is more a change in balance and how the camera and lens is used. Change in balance becomes an issue as the focal length of the lens increases. In my case, using an adapter for a 105mm macro lens presents no issues. For a 500mm lens, balance issues need to be addressed especially if you are using a tripod or monopod.

Isn’t a 500mm MILC lens about the same size as a DSLR 500mm lens + adapter??

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Oct 9, 2023 17:10:24   #
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photoman43 wrote:
For me it is not fear. It is more a change in balance and how the camera and lens is used. Change in balance becomes an issue as the focal length of the lens increases. In my case, using an adapter for a 105mm macro lens presents no issues. For a 500mm lens, balance issues need to be addressed especially if you are using a tripod or monopod.

Ahhhh yes, the balance thing. Litttle Jonny is sooooooo sensitive. Cant even use a 1.4x TC cuz, you know, balance !

When I hear the "balance thing" I then know fully everything Ill ever need to know about that person. I am then toadally dismissive of their ideas, their perceptions, their advice or suggestions, etc. They live in some bizarro matrix universe with no connection to any laws of physics, gravity, or common sense that operate in this one.

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Oct 9, 2023 17:14:45   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
User ID wrote:
Ahhhh yes, the balance thing. Litttle Jonny is sooooooo sensitive. Cant even use a 1.4x TC cuz, you know, balance !

When I hear the "balance thing" I then know fully everything I’ll ever need to know about that person. I am then toadally dismissive of their ideas, their perceptions, their advice or suggestions, etc. They live in some bizarro multiverse with no relation to the laws of physics and gravity in this one.

and apparently never really learned two-handed shooting.

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Oct 9, 2023 17:21:58   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
User ID wrote:
Ahhhh yes, the balance thing. Litttle Jonny is sooooooo sensitive. Cant even use a 1.4x TC cuz, you know, balance !

When I hear the "balance thing" I then know fully everything Ill ever need to know about that person. I am then toadally dismissive of their ideas, their perceptions, their advice or suggestions, etc. They live in some bizarro multiverse with no relation to the laws of physics and gravity in this one.



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Oct 10, 2023 09:16:18   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
photoman43 wrote:
For me it is not fear. It is more a change in balance and how the camera and lens is used. Change in balance becomes an issue as the focal length of the lens increases. In my case, using an adapter for a 105mm macro lens presents no issues. For a 500mm lens, balance issues need to be addressed especially if you are using a tripod or monopod.


I think it is prudent to use a tripod threaded lens collar on long lenses to avoid strain on the lens mount of the camera body. I can also use a hand grip the attaches to the lens collar.

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Oct 10, 2023 09:32:55   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
I think it is prudent to use a tripod threaded lens collar on long lenses to avoid strain on the lens mount of the camera body. I can also use a hand grip the attaches to the lens collar.

I support the lens with my left hand and the body with my right hand - no strain.

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Oct 10, 2023 09:35:25   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
I would say with the adapter, that a given camera/lens combo will handle slightly differently - can's say it would necessarily be "balance" tho...
I will also say that the extra set of contacts has the potential to affect electrical resistance/signal transfer which can manifest itself in slowing SPEED or complete interruption......

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