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Sep 28, 2023 14:29:36   #
Ront53 Loc: Maryland
 
If a bus goes into the water would all the kids be electrocuted?

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Sep 28, 2023 14:42:16   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Our local school district was offered $8.3 million for twenty-two electric buses and peripherals. They declined the offer. There was too much to do to meet the requirements and provide charging facilities. A fire that couldn't be extinguished was another concern. I think it's just as well.


$377,000 apiece? Pork Barrell is back.

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Sep 29, 2023 01:01:02   #
campyboy1 Loc: vancouver Washington
 
I remember driving by on the freeway and seeing the factory when it was being built in Fremont California and the President taking a tour of the plant and all the security and Secret Service agents that were there and it never even opened. The reason they gave was that they couldn't compete with China on the price of solar panels from them.

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Sep 29, 2023 01:17:29   #
campyboy1 Loc: vancouver Washington
 
And another thing you need to think about is if one buses was to break down who's going to work on them and service them and if there was electrical problem and how long will it be down and waiting for someone to come and check it out and then waiting on repair parts for it. I worked for a small School District in California where we had ten buses that we took care of and if we had a mechanical problem with one, of them we could always take it too a truck repair shop to get it fixed.

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Sep 29, 2023 06:22:27   #
Mau
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Our local school district was offered $8.3 million for twenty-two electric buses and peripherals. They declined the offer. There was too much to do to meet the requirements and provide charging facilities. A fire that couldn't be extinguished was another concern. I think it's just as well.


We have to keep in mind that to charge our electric vehicles, we use the grid system, which very little, if at all, used clean energy. Our grid system is still based on carbon fuels, nuclear power, etc.
Solar or hydroelectric is still a small percentage. So when we "feel" we are following a "green" fuel philosophy we are delusional.

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Sep 29, 2023 07:07:04   #
ELNikkor
 
No need for batteries, just solar panels on that large roof. (Cloudy day? No school, kids will love it!)

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Sep 29, 2023 07:34:19   #
HRPufnstuf
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Does anyone remember the 'Cash for Clunkers'? If you do then you may also remember the 'Corn for Fuel' taxpayer-supported program. And...let's never forget the great solar panel taxpayer funding of Solyndra that went belly-up shortly after getting $570,000,000 in a taxpayer loan which was never repaid (ever wonder where all that money went?).


Yeah, I lost a bunch of money by buying their stock, figuring "it's too big to fail" with all of our taxpayer money going into that loan (gift). And then it all disappeared. I wonder into who's pocket?
Thanks Obummer!

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Sep 29, 2023 07:49:52   #
Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Our local school district was offered $8.3 million for twenty-two electric buses and peripherals. They declined the offer. There was too much to do to meet the requirements and provide charging facilities. A fire that couldn't be extinguished was another concern. I think it's just as well.


It's difficult for me to understand. Sorry.

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Sep 29, 2023 08:59:49   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Morry wrote:
It's difficult for me to understand. Sorry.


If this is a Grant to purchase the buses and charging equipment like any other grant it comes with stipulations and such that usually end up costing the School district a lot more money to keep the buses on the road!!
I am trying to keep this out of the ATTIC.

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Sep 29, 2023 09:05:44   #
cdayton
 
The future is electric, and self-driving, whether you like it or not.

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Sep 29, 2023 09:08:30   #
dbjazz Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Wise decision. Consider also that the batteries drain much more quickly in the cold weather. Ask the residents of Quebec.

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Sep 29, 2023 09:18:02   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
cdayton wrote:
The future is electric, and self-driving, whether you like it or not.


I am glad I won't be around to see it!
It's not the electric cars I have a problem with, it's the fact they will not remove the air pollution, because you need power to charge the batteries, where does this power come from? Look at the Hydroelectric Plants NOW they are having trouble keeping up with the demand,So you are left with Coal, Oil, Nukes.
What do you do with the worn out batteries? Lithium !! as bad as or worse than Lead.

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Sep 29, 2023 09:21:32   #
Ruthlessrider
 
I google “How much does the average diesel school bus weigh?” And got, between 10,000 and 36,000 loaded. When I googled the same for an electric bus, Bluebird (a major provider of school buses) said about 30,000. Looks like a wash to me.

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Sep 29, 2023 09:22:25   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Does anyone remember the 'Cash for Clunkers'? If you do then you may also remember the 'Corn for Fuel' taxpayer-supported program. And...let's never forget the great solar panel taxpayer funding of Solyndra that went belly-up shortly after getting $570,000,000 in a taxpayer loan which was never repaid (ever wonder where all that money went?).


I bought my first ever new car through Cash for Clunkers! Probably be my last, too...

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Sep 29, 2023 09:52:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
elee950021 wrote:
Jerry!

Did the vendor include super-long extension cords with that price?

Be well! Ed


I think construction of buildings was involved. It looks like the district now has twenty-two buses, with some routes being driven by contractors.

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