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May 28, 2023 10:27:28   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
tomc601 wrote:
I'm not surprised at the responses so far on this post. There are clearly two camps on this issue; one wanting to present only images as they essentially come out of the camera and the other of the belief that image creation goes beyond what the camera sees. I'm in the latter camp.
I've attached a link to a story about Ansel Adams most famous photograph, "Moonrise, Hernandez, NM". Included in the story is a video of how the image was created. I find it interesting that not only did Adams manipulate the processing and the printing of the image, but later iterations of the print changed dramatically over time as Adams applied additional techniques to the printing process. I guess he got an upgrade.
My point is image manipulation was possible right after the first Daguerreotype was captured. There is nothing new here, just a different brush.
https://petapixel.com/2018/11/07/the-story-behind-ansel-adams-iconic-moonrise-hernandez/
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Well written. I too am in the "latter camp". We admire painters that have the skills to put on canvas what they see in their mind. We can do a lot of things with photography, but one of my favorites to to create a print that reminds me of what my mind was seeing when I captured the light. In the examples from tomc601 at the beginning of this topic, his mind was seeing an interesting architectural scene. It was not "seeing" all the people. They were a distraction. Had the photographer's mind been "seeing" the social interactions of the people, the composition challenge would have had a different solution.

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May 28, 2023 11:24:53   #
tomc601 Loc: Gilbert, AZ
 
Flyerace wrote:
I have never seen a disclaimer from a photographer that the photo has been altered. Before AI, we straightened, sharpened and modified photos in many ways. We remove debris, birds, people and autos. Never has it been listed on this site what was removed or improved. SOOC (Straight Out of Camera) is seldom what is posted. Using AI is just a different, and interesting, tool to make the photo what the photographer wants.

Photography just received a new tool. Some will abuse it and others will have fun with it. We need to enjoy what we can do. Photography just added a new toy for our amusement. Those who run photography contests will probably create a new category that includes AI generated photos.
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