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May 23, 2023 12:09:19   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
For serious shooting I take my R7 and 18-300 zoom. For grab shots I use "P" mode, otherwise T or A depending on whether I want stop action or controlled DOF. If using flash, I use "M", 1/320 sec, lens at f/5.6 and flash set to ETTL. Out and about I use the DCSZ80 in "P" for convenience.

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May 23, 2023 12:09:22   #
clickety
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You are what your exposure mode says you are.


You have so much knowledge and are such a respected resource with I suspect a sense of humor, but for the newer people I suggest you label a post like this as ‘sarcastic humor’.

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May 23, 2023 12:12:41   #
clickety
 
kfcam wrote:
I do have a few questions to ask of all you knowledgeable guys here, but before I do, let me say this. We were always told to learn how to shoot Manual and stay there for most of our shooting. With today's Cameras, the technology is so good, why not allow the Camera to do most of the work for you? Once I have gotten my head around "how to use my D810", I always Float my ISO, and use A priority most of the time. This allows me quickly to change my aperture, and exclusively use the exposure compensation to change my exposure if needed. I also float my ISO in Manual by setting my High and Low ISO points in camera. This way, I have more time to think of composition and what is in the foreground and background of my image. I am not knocking Manual, most newer photographer needs to learn about the "Exposure Triangle" and manual is a must for this purpose.
Now my questions. I will be in Rome for 3 days. With so much to shoot there. How will you set up your camera to be this most efficient? Will you shoot most of the time with wide angle or medium telephoto? I know the D810 is a bit heavy based on today's standards, but that is all I have. I am also taking 50mm 1.4, 24 - 70mm 2.8, and 70-200mm 2.8. Any comments, and/or recommendations will be appreciated.
I do have a few questions to ask of all you knowle... (show quote)


Nothing works ‘best’ in all situations, all the replies you get will be for someone else’s situation you have to find what works for you.

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May 23, 2023 12:29:08   #
brentrh Loc: Deltona, FL
 
Longshadow wrote:
Some people get stuck in a deep rut, refusing to use various methods available to them.
Get too close to the rut and they'll try to drag you in with them.

I don't do ruts or blinders... or cults.
I use the available tools as desired.


I agree. Think some people refuse to use modern turn signals and stick their arm out the window.

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May 23, 2023 12:57:59   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
brentrh wrote:
I agree. Think some people refuse to use modern turn signals and stick their arm out the window.

Of course, sticking your arm out the window is a tool that may seem very antiquated, but there are times when it may be appropriate and even necessary. As an example if you are on a crowded highway going at a snail's pace and are attempting to change lanes, the person behind you and the person in the lane you want to get into may be so close they can't see your turn signals, but they will see your arm. The tools on a modern camera are there for a reason. They allow each of use the tools that we're most comfortable with using to achieve our goals.

You shoot in S mode because you're a birder and your hands shake. That works for you. I am not a birder and my hands don't shake. In the last 15 years of using digital cameras, I probably have taken less than 50 pictures using shutter priority. Furthermore,, even using full manual I can quickly increase the shutter speed If needed.. Isn't it great that modern cameras givs us the tools that work best for our personal requirements?

Those of us who prefer using manual mode are not stuck in the past. It is just a preference that the camera allows. You use S mode as a necessity which limits your ability to change the aperture. From my point of view you're really stuck. Most of my stills photography requires choosing the right aperture. The shutter speed is mostly irrelevant.

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May 23, 2023 13:02:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
clickety wrote:
You have so much knowledge and are such a respected resource with I suspect a sense of humor, but for the newer people I suggest you label a post like this as ‘sarcastic humor’.

Everyone perceives thing differently, don't they.

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May 23, 2023 13:03:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
brentrh wrote:
I agree. Think some people refuse to use modern turn signals and stick their arm out the window.

And some don't use any signalling...

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May 23, 2023 13:31:42   #
Miker999
 
I've been shooting since 1981. At some point, I switched from M to Aperture priority. I set my A and SS. I keep my ISO in an Auto range. It's one less thing to have to think about. I switched to a Mirrorless body back in 2018 and when I travel, I limit myself to one lens. a 16-80 f/4, (close to 24-122 on FF) I find that I enjoy the vacation and family time more with less gear.The sensor in today's cameras are great.When I switched to Mirrorless, I also went from FF to APS-C.
Most important: Enjoy the trip!

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May 23, 2023 14:50:28   #
pj81156 Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
Just returned from Rome. Most of what I shot was wide angle. However I was at the Vatican on a Sunday, saw the Pope from his balcony window. That was about the only time I used a long lens.

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May 23, 2023 15:56:35   #
Imagemine Loc: St. Louis USA
 
kfcam wrote:
I do have a few questions to ask of all you knowledgeable guys here, but before I do, let me say this. We were always told to learn how to shoot Manual and stay there for most of our shooting. With today's Cameras, the technology is so good, why not allow the Camera to do most of the work for you? Once I have gotten my head around "how to use my D810", I always Float my ISO, and use A priority most of the time. This allows me quickly to change my aperture, and exclusively use the exposure compensation to change my exposure if needed. I also float my ISO in Manual by setting my High and Low ISO points in camera. This way, I have more time to think of composition and what is in the foreground and background of my image. I am not knocking Manual, most newer photographer needs to learn about the "Exposure Triangle" and manual is a must for this purpose.
Now my questions. I will be in Rome for 3 days. With so much to shoot there. How will you set up your camera to be this most efficient? Will you shoot most of the time with wide angle or medium telephoto? I know the D810 is a bit heavy based on today's standards, but that is all I have. I am also taking 50mm 1.4, 24 - 70mm 2.8, and 70-200mm 2.8. Any comments, and/or recommendations will be appreciated.
I do have a few questions to ask of all you knowle... (show quote)


I would suggest shoot whatever is comfortable to you, but you should know how to shoot it in manual mode to know how things work & nothing wrong with heavy cameras , the Nikon z9 is mirrorless & one of the best cameras going but it's heavy too!

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May 23, 2023 16:24:18   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You are what your exposure mode says you are.


That would be "P" for Professional right ........

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May 23, 2023 16:34:53   #
pesfls Loc: Oregon, USA
 
I like to control my dof and shutter speed for blur, freeze, hence I find floating iso to be fantastic invention. If displeased with the suggested iso it’s no big deal to tweak it a bit. I often use full manual though, as like many here I grew up that way.

All that architecture you’re going to see isn’t gonna blow away while you’re contemplating your methodoly. It’ll still be there when you make your choice. Hope you have a great experience there.

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May 23, 2023 17:04:32   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
dwmoar wrote:
That would be "P" for Professional right ........


Only the unknown frightens men. But once a man has faced the unknown, they begin to understand how P mode truly operates.

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May 23, 2023 17:09:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
pesfls wrote:
I like to control my dof and shutter speed for blur, freeze, hence I find floating iso to be fantastic invention. If displeased with the suggested iso it’s no big deal to tweak it a bit. I often use full manual though, as like many here I grew up that way.

All that architecture you’re going to see isn’t gonna blow away while you’re contemplating your methodoly. It’ll still be there when you make your choice. Hope you have a great experience there.

Haha. I also grew up with snow shovels, manual typewriters, hand saws, percolators, copper land lines, ...
but...

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May 23, 2023 17:15:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dwmoar wrote:
That would be "P" for Professional right ........


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