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Apr 28, 2023 18:27:12   #
saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee
 
Adobe recently put out an update with a new noise reduction feature in ACR. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried it and what your thoughts are if you have. I've been using it and I think I like it but the improvement is subtle (in my opinion). With that said, most of my shots lately have been accomplished at a low ISO so there has not been a lot of noise to eliminate. I did try the "search" button first with no luck (as usual).

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Apr 28, 2023 23:05:55   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
I'm on an Oregon Coast state park camping trip. I've tried putting my two primary cameras on their highest ISO setting to create lots of noise. The new AI noise reduction (in Lightroom for me) works quite well. I think on more "normal" images, the old sliders might do a more "gentle" treatment. It is going to depend on your images and your taste. For me, it is going to be useful for hand held, long lens images. I can intentionally crank the ISO up and fix most of the noise.

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Apr 29, 2023 07:04:41   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
I tried it on a few higher ISO images and thought it worked pretty well - but it took a very long time to process the image. I'm sure that will improve with updates in the future.

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Apr 29, 2023 07:37:42   #
bkwaters
 
yssirk123 wrote:
I tried it on a few higher ISO images and thought it worked pretty well - but it took a very long time to process the image. I'm sure that will improve with updates in the future.


With a moderately high end video card it’s very fast.

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Apr 29, 2023 07:58:00   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
saxman71 wrote:
Adobe recently put out an update with a new noise reduction feature in ACR. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried it and what your thoughts are if you have. I've been using it and I think I like it but the improvement is subtle (in my opinion). With that said, most of my shots lately have been accomplished at a low ISO so there has not been a lot of noise to eliminate. I did try the "search" button first with no luck (as usual).


I tried it, it works great.

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Apr 29, 2023 09:10:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
saxman71 wrote:
Adobe recently put out an update with a new noise reduction feature in ACR. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried it and what your thoughts are if you have. I've been using it and I think I like it but the improvement is subtle (in my opinion). With that said, most of my shots lately have been accomplished at a low ISO so there has not been a lot of noise to eliminate. I did try the "search" button first with no luck (as usual).


I will use it in extreme cases. But it is so slow, It's not worth using on most images. The conventional noise reduction tools do enough, most of the time.

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Apr 29, 2023 09:22:49   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
burkphoto wrote:
I will use it in extreme cases. But it is so slow, It's not worth using on most images. The conventional noise reduction tools do enough, most of the time.


My Adobe takes an average of 20-60 seconds.

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Apr 29, 2023 09:42:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
billnikon wrote:
My Adobe takes an average of 20-60 seconds.


That is an eon on an M1 Mac! The new feature is the slowest routine of any software I use. I have about 60 apps I use on a weekly basis.

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Apr 29, 2023 09:46:04   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
saxman71 wrote:
Adobe recently put out an update with a new noise reduction feature in ACR. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried it and what your thoughts are if you have. I've been using it and I think I like it but the improvement is subtle (in my opinion). With that said, most of my shots lately have been accomplished at a low ISO so there has not been a lot of noise to eliminate. I did try the "search" button first with no luck (as usual).


I like Topaz Noise AI. It takes 10 to 15 seconds and is quite good. I have several photos that were near unusable until I put them through this filter.

ON1 No noise is also good but I still prefer Topaz.

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Apr 29, 2023 09:56:09   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
burkphoto wrote:
That is an eon on an M1 Mac! The new feature is the slowest routine of any software I use. I have about 60 apps I use on a weekly basis.


That's too bad. Wow, 60 apps. That's a lot of apps.

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Apr 29, 2023 11:14:04   #
PhotosBySteve
 
saxman71 wrote:
Adobe recently put out an update with a new noise reduction feature in ACR. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried it and what your thoughts are if you have. I've been using it and I think I like it but the improvement is subtle (in my opinion). With that said, most of my shots lately have been accomplished at a low ISO so there has not been a lot of noise to eliminate. I did try the "search" button first with no luck (as usual).


It is absolutely phenomenal!!!
I hear a lot of people have issues with lack of speed. Most images I have used it on have taken from 20 to120 seconds.
I would use it all day, hands down over the other denoise products

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Apr 29, 2023 11:41:39   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
That is an eon on an M1 Mac! The new feature is the slowest routine of any software I use. I have about 60 apps I use on a weekly basis.


Not quite sure what you're seeing Bill, but on my Mac Studio Ultra this takes about 10 seconds. I re-processed some of my football photos taken under the lights and I was impressed. Not sure how long it took me to adjust the sliders (including Sharpen), but I will be using the Ai version going forward, at least as a baseline. I am quite impressed with what Adobe released and would expect future enhancements. Best of luck.

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Apr 29, 2023 11:57:52   #
Canisdirus
 
I like it...
I use topaz photo as primary...make a .dng.
Go back with raw and do the adobe version.
Look at them both side by side...both look great.

Time...I have not experienced what others have posted.

I can denoise ai in adobe in the time it takes to do the Topaz transfer and open up...about 30 seconds usually.
I did a detailed photo that took a minute...maybe.

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Apr 29, 2023 12:00:37   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cjc2 wrote:
Not quite sure what you're seeing Bill, but on my Mac Studio Ultra this takes about 10 seconds. I re-processed some of my football photos taken under the lights and I was impressed. Not sure how long it took me to adjust the sliders (including Sharpen), but I will be using the Ai version going forward, at least as a baseline. I am quite impressed with what Adobe released and would expect future enhancements. Best of luck.


It's around 20 seconds on the base M1 MacBook Air with 8/8/16 cores and 16TB memory, 1TB SSD. That's very slow, when comparing with other things I do. I build my sharpening into camera profiles. I rarely tweak sharpening manually, and rendering my images usually takes under one second per raw file. I have to be using pretty high ISO in a dark place to generate enough noise that I'd use AI Denoise.

The next slowest things I do are all Photoshop Neural Filters, but they seem twice as fast, by comparison.

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Apr 29, 2023 12:06:30   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
It's around 20 seconds on the base M1 MacBook Air with 8/8/16 cores and 16TB memory, 1TB SSD. That's very slow, when comparing with other things I do. I build my sharpening into camera profiles. I rarely tweak sharpening manually, and rendering my images usually takes under one second per raw file. I have to be using pretty high ISO in a dark place to generate enough noise that I'd use AI Denoise.

The next slowest things I do are all Photoshop Neural Filters, but they seem twice as fast, by comparison.
It's around 20 seconds on the base M1 MacBook Air ... (show quote)


The answer is... Night Football!!!!

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