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Apr 15, 2023 09:49:13   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
You cannot account for someone else's equipment. If on theirs it looks too red, then you need to account for that. I supplied images to magazines for years. Sometimes they looked perfect. Sometimes not. If they looked perfect on my screen, then I made notes how to correct for their screen. (Funny thing was, they nearly always printed correctly!)

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Apr 15, 2023 10:25:47   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Trust your print house's observations and recommendations. They are most likely experts in the printing field and know what their machines will produce and they have far more extensive ability to work with color than us mere mortals with our consumer-quality computers and monitors.

Fortunately, they were looking after your best interest and informed you of what they found. It was nice of them if they were able to correct it for you rather than just print whatever is sent their way.

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Apr 15, 2023 10:44:59   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
UKChris wrote:
I recently sent a number of images to a magazine editor for publication. I had edited the images in Lightroom and the colors looked good on my HP laptop. When the editor viewed the images on his computer, he mentioned there was a red tint to them. I had added a little red saturation to the photos but nothing as stark as he made out. I also viewed the same image on a monitor separate to my laptop and although the colors were not quite the same, the red starkness was not there. Screens will all be set up differently, but does anyone have advice on how best to ensure the color I see on my images is likely to be reflected on others' screens?

BTW, moving to monochrome is not the answer I am looking for !! :-)
Thanks.
Chris

I recently sent a number of images to a magazine e... (show quote)
Magazine editors use calibrated monitors so that they know exactly what the image will look like when it is printed. If your monitor is not calibrated monthly, what the editor will see will be different from what you see on your monitor.

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Apr 15, 2023 10:47:50   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
1, Calibrate your monitor.
2, Assure you export using the sRGB colorspace.

If you didn't do #2, fix that immediately. If you're not doing #1, start doing that and consider the idea above to post an example where the UHH community can evaluate from calibrated monitors.


I didn’t think you calibrate a laptop screen. If you can how is it done. I too have an hp and would like to calibrate the screen

Thanks

Chuck

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Apr 15, 2023 11:13:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
charlienow wrote:
I didn’t think you calibrate a laptop screen. If you can how is it done. I too have an hp and would like to calibrate the screen

Thanks

Chuck

I would imagine it's the same process as a desktop...
It's just another computer and monitor, nothing special.

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Apr 15, 2023 11:33:18   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
charlienow wrote:
I didn’t think you calibrate a laptop screen. If you can how is it done. I too have an hp and would like to calibrate the screen
Thanks
Chuck
Chuck you can certainly calibrate a laptop screen.

Not all screens are capable of displaying RGB but the colors that they can display can still be calibrated. Most laptops today can display sRGB colors.

Screens tend to slowly change colors over time. Regular calibration is "nudging the sliders" to keep the colors consistent. You should not notice a big change when you calibrate. However if you have never calibrated, or if you wait too long, or if something is broken, then you might notice a change after calibration.

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Apr 15, 2023 11:40:11   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Longshadow wrote:
I would imagine it's the same process as a desktop...
It's just another computer and monitor, nothing special.


Actually, I tried to calibrate a Mac laptop with my Xrite equipment, and it said "no calibratable monitor found". I wouldn't edit photos on a laptop anyway as it changes so much with different angles on the screen.

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Apr 15, 2023 12:04:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
... I wouldn't edit photos on a laptop anyway as it changes so much with different angles on the screen.


My 10 year old laptop was very sensitive to the screen angle.
My new HP is much less sensitive to being a bit off of perpendicular to my eyes.
The same thing can happen with a desk monitor, but the viewing angle is more or less fixed after initial setup.

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Apr 15, 2023 12:16:22   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Longshadow wrote:
My 10 year old laptop was very sensitive to the screen angle...
I made a big mistake in ordering a "cheap" Chromebook a few years ago with TN display:

"...The biggest weakness of TN panels is the limited viewing angles, which go as low as 170/160 degrees."

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Apr 15, 2023 12:24:40   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
UKChris wrote:
...how best to ensure the color I see on my images is likely to be reflected on others' screens?


Not only do you need to calibrate your monitor, the other person needs to have calibrated their monitor or all bets are off.

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Apr 15, 2023 12:46:09   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
We have a 90" TV/Monitor in the Classroom we use for our Photo Group. We critique member photos each month and the difference between what we see on the 90" and the moderator's iPad is amazing. Still an improvement from the LCD projector we had been using.
Still no calibration but at least we have a good reference to view on the iPad.

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Apr 15, 2023 13:07:21   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
1, Calibrate your monitor.
2, Assure you export using the sRGB colorspace.

If you didn't do #2, fix that immediately. If you're not doing #1, start doing that and consider the idea above to post an example where the UHH community can evaluate from calibrated monitors.



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Apr 15, 2023 13:20:47   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
larryepage wrote:
Part of the correct answer has been provided already...calibrate your display. Be aware that this process may be imperfect, because some color calibrators have only a limited number of "steps," but at least you will be close. And if you change your ambient lighting, your calibrated color can get out of whack.

But the second consideration is your own color perception. More than half of the population has some level of impairment in their color vision. Red/green color blindness is most common, and pastel color blindness, the inability to see less saturated colors, is not far behind.

Finally be careful about how you work. Looking at a bright light (and sometimes not even that bright a light) can alter your visual perception for anywhere from 15-30 minutes. So can the fatigue from staring at a screen for an extended time without a break. Men tend to have reduced color discernment to start with, and even what we might have tends to weaken with age.

There needs to be a pretty good reason to add red to an image. Even white balance is usually adjusted using blue(ish) and yellow(ish) values.
Part of the correct answer has been provided alrea... (show quote)

Your second consideration is the big one. How on earth can people expect perfect color accuracy when there are a million variables, most of which are out of your control. How one see's colors is not only different from person to person, but each person views colors differently at different times depending on a vast variety of conditions. Super easy to warm up a picture, cool down a picture, adjust facial tones, etc etc with today editors, but when is the color "correct".

"Correct" in photography is up to the viewer at the moment the picture is viewed. Tomorrow, that same viewer might view that same picture differently. Calibrating your monitor might get some technical issues correct, but there are still a multitude of variables that affect how color is being viewed at any point in time. The guy making the decisions might (does) see colors differently and his equipment might (does) see colors differently, so that's always a rabbit that's hard to catch.

I view all my pictures on 5 different big screen HD TV's. All but one display about the same, and that one is old and needs replaced. I reckon if I lined up the 4 good TV's and grabbed a spectrometer there would be big differences in each screen, but I really don't care, they all look "good enough" to me.

To the OP if a guy judging your photo says it has a red tint, and you added a red tint, I'd suggest you remove the red you added to make the photo look good to your eyes on your equipment.

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Apr 15, 2023 13:34:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
PHRubin wrote:
Not only do you need to calibrate your monitor, the other person needs to have calibrated their monitor or all bets are off.



If their monitor has a lousy setup, the image will probably look lousy, no matter what is sent to it.

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Apr 15, 2023 13:40:33   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
UKChris wrote:
I recently sent a number of images to a magazine editor for publication. I had edited the images in Lightroom and the colors looked good on my HP laptop. When the editor viewed the images on his computer, he mentioned there was a red tint to them. I had added a little red saturation to the photos but nothing as stark as he made out. I also viewed the same image on a monitor separate to my laptop and although the colors were not quite the same, the red starkness was not there. Screens will all be set up differently, but does anyone have advice on how best to ensure the color I see on my images is likely to be reflected on others' screens?

BTW, moving to monochrome is not the answer I am looking for !! :-)
Thanks.
Chris

I recently sent a number of images to a magazine e... (show quote)


You need a decent monitor and a calibration kit from Calibrite or Datacolor.

Calibration linearizes gray output from black to white. ICC Profiling creates a color matching profile that helps your monitor produce standard colors as accurately as possible.

Without calibration and profiling, you don’t see what agencies, labs, printers, and publishers need to see.

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