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Apr 14, 2023 16:08:54   #
UKChris
 
I recently sent a number of images to a magazine editor for publication. I had edited the images in Lightroom and the colors looked good on my HP laptop. When the editor viewed the images on his computer, he mentioned there was a red tint to them. I had added a little red saturation to the photos but nothing as stark as he made out. I also viewed the same image on a monitor separate to my laptop and although the colors were not quite the same, the red starkness was not there. Screens will all be set up differently, but does anyone have advice on how best to ensure the color I see on my images is likely to be reflected on others' screens?

BTW, moving to monochrome is not the answer I am looking for !! :-)
Thanks.
Chris


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Apr 14, 2023 16:10:45   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
UKChris wrote:
I recently sent a number of images to a magazine editor for publication. I had edited the images in Lightroom and the colors looked good on my HP laptop. When the editor viewed the images on his computer, he mentioned there was a red tint to them. I had added a little red saturation to the photos but nothing as stark as he made out. I also viewed the same image on a monitor separate to my laptop and although the colors were not quite the same, the red starkness was not there. Screens will all be set up differently, but does anyone have advice on how best to ensure the color I see on my images is likely to be reflected on others' screens?

BTW, moving to monochrome is not the answer I am looking for !! :-)
Thanks.
Chris

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Why add red saturation?
It obvious shows to others even if you don't see it.
Show the editor the same photos without adding red to them and see what is said.

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Apr 14, 2023 16:15:28   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Get a color calibration kit.
Spyder Pro is one I have used.
https://try-spyder.datacolor.com/Pro-US/

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Apr 14, 2023 16:16:45   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
UKChris wrote:
I recently sent a number of images to a magazine editor for publication. I had edited the images in Lightroom and the colors looked good on my HP laptop. When the editor viewed the images on his computer, he mentioned there was a red tint to them. I had added a little red saturation to the photos but nothing as stark as he made out. I also viewed the same image on a monitor separate to my laptop and although the colors were not quite the same, the red starkness was not there. Screens will all be set up differently, but does anyone have advice on how best to ensure the color I see on my images is likely to be reflected on others' screens?

BTW, moving to monochrome is not the answer I am looking for !! :-)
Thanks.
Chris

I recently sent a number of images to a magazine e... (show quote)

Have you calibrated you monitors? If not why would you expect them to be accurate?

Have you heard of the Color Management Process?

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Apr 14, 2023 16:57:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Would you post an example here and we all can see how it looks on our different monitors?
(But we still wouldn't know what it looks like on yours.)

I wonder what percentage of the world's computer screens are actually "calibrated".
Our four are not.
No matter what is put on the web, it's going to look different on most of the computers out there.

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Apr 14, 2023 16:59:55   #
gener202002
 
UKChris wrote:
I recently sent a number of images to a magazine editor for publication. I had edited the images in Lightroom and the colors looked good on my HP laptop. When the editor viewed the images on his computer, he mentioned there was a red tint to them. I had added a little red saturation to the photos but nothing as stark as he made out. I also viewed the same image on a monitor separate to my laptop and although the colors were not quite the same, the red starkness was not there. Screens will all be set up differently, but does anyone have advice on how best to ensure the color I see on my images is likely to be reflected on others' screens?

BTW, moving to monochrome is not the answer I am looking for !! :-)
Thanks.
Chris

I recently sent a number of images to a magazine e... (show quote)



I've had a number of computers and tv screens and I find my pictures look different on all of them. My present computer screen is the most accurate though, I think. Some monitors are designed specifically for Adobe Photoshop to be as accurate as possible. I would recommend asking someone at best buy or wherever, which monitors or tv's are best attuned to photographs. Some monitors or screens are superior to others in that respect.

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Apr 14, 2023 17:23:39   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
1, Calibrate your monitor.
2, Assure you export using the sRGB colorspace.

If you didn't do #2, fix that immediately. If you're not doing #1, start doing that and consider the idea above to post an example where the UHH community can evaluate from calibrated monitors.

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Apr 14, 2023 17:47:34   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Longshadow wrote:
Would you post an example here and we all can see how it looks on our different monitors?
(But we still wouldn't know what it looks like on yours.)

I wonder what percentage of the world's computer screens are actually "calibrated".
Our four are not.
No matter what is put on the web, it's going to look different on most of the computers out there.



And again red was added gratuitously and was spotted immediately.

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Apr 14, 2023 18:37:49   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Longshadow wrote:
Would you post an example here and we all can see how it looks on our different monitors?
(But we still wouldn't know what it looks like on yours.)

I wonder what percentage of the world's computer screens are actually "calibrated".
Our four are not.
No matter what is put on the web, it's going to look different on most of the computers out there.


All photographers can do is calibrate their own system to assure their imagery is correct. We can't be responsible for what they look like on uncalibrated monitors. When I had a photo studio, I sometimes got complaints about the color/lightness or darkness of the images onscreen. I would ask if their monitor was calibrated, but usually it wasn't. I'm assuming the OP's editor has a calibrated system, but that might not be the case either.

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Apr 14, 2023 20:23:02   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
1, Calibrate your monitor.
2, Assure you export using the sRGB colorspace.

If you didn't do #2, fix that immediately. If you're not doing #1, start doing that and consider the idea above to post an example where the UHH community can evaluate from calibrated monitors.


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Apr 14, 2023 20:31:17   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Longshadow wrote:
I wonder what percentage of the world's computer screens are actually "calibrated".
Virtually none of them if you go by %. Only People who have an interest in uniform and repeatable color calibrate. Production studios, photographers, graphic artists to name a few.

Longshadow wrote:
Our four are not.
Shame on you.

I will henceforth ignore any comments you make regarding color on any posted images.

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Apr 14, 2023 22:39:31   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
Shame on you.

I will henceforth ignore any comments you make regarding color on any posted images.

Works for me!

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Apr 15, 2023 06:08:50   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
First step - software calibration of your monitor, and even better would be a monitor that supports hardware calibration. Once set up, there should be no need to add red or any other color to the image.

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Apr 15, 2023 07:49:08   #
Gtanzer
 
Coming from a Graphic Design and printing background. Printing a magazine on a printing press is much different than photography printing a photo to photo paper. And you have cmyk and rgb color space differences.

You still need to calibrate. You can calibrate your monitor to the specific printing device they plan to print to. And get better screen results. There are ICC profiles.

Sometime you can find the ICC on the companies website.

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Apr 15, 2023 09:30:35   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
UKChris wrote:
I recently sent a number of images to a magazine editor for publication. I had edited the images in Lightroom and the colors looked good on my HP laptop. When the editor viewed the images on his computer, he mentioned there was a red tint to them. I had added a little red saturation to the photos but nothing as stark as he made out. I also viewed the same image on a monitor separate to my laptop and although the colors were not quite the same, the red starkness was not there. Screens will all be set up differently, but does anyone have advice on how best to ensure the color I see on my images is likely to be reflected on others' screens?

BTW, moving to monochrome is not the answer I am looking for !! :-)
Thanks.
Chris

I recently sent a number of images to a magazine e... (show quote)


Part of the correct answer has been provided already...calibrate your display. Be aware that this process may be imperfect, because some color calibrators have only a limited number of "steps," but at least you will be close. And if you change your ambient lighting, your calibrated color can get out of whack.

But the second consideration is your own color perception. More than half of the population has some level of impairment in their color vision. Red/green color blindness is most common, and pastel color blindness, the inability to see less saturated colors, is not far behind.

Finally be careful about how you work. Looking at a bright light (and sometimes not even that bright a light) can alter your visual perception for anywhere from 15-30 minutes. So can the fatigue from staring at a screen for an extended time without a break. Men tend to have reduced color discernment to start with, and even what we might have tends to weaken with age.

There needs to be a pretty good reason to add red to an image. Even white balance is usually adjusted using blue(ish) and yellow(ish) values.

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