Correct the amount of ‘NOISE’ using a D500 with a Nikon Zoom 28 – 107mm lens.
Apr 3, 2023 10:17:12 #
Good morning, All,
Issue: Correct the amount of ‘NOISE’ using a D500 with a Nikon Zoom 28 – 107mm lens.
Would like to hear from the group what experience they may suggest reducing the amount of noise that appears in D500 photos. Yes, I understand lighter would be helpful, but I do not often have that luxury. I normally shoot with a shutter speed of 320 having an aperture of F8 or F11. Though this setting gives me a sharp picture most of the time, there is still quite a bit of noise as well as spots that appear for unknown reasons. I’ve attached a couple of ‘RAW’ files to give you an example of the issue I am talking about. FYI – I usually use Lightroom or ‘ON1 Photo Raw 2023’ in post editing but the attached pictures have not been modified.
Thanks for your suggestion in advance.
Regards,
Issue: Correct the amount of ‘NOISE’ using a D500 with a Nikon Zoom 28 – 107mm lens.
Would like to hear from the group what experience they may suggest reducing the amount of noise that appears in D500 photos. Yes, I understand lighter would be helpful, but I do not often have that luxury. I normally shoot with a shutter speed of 320 having an aperture of F8 or F11. Though this setting gives me a sharp picture most of the time, there is still quite a bit of noise as well as spots that appear for unknown reasons. I’ve attached a couple of ‘RAW’ files to give you an example of the issue I am talking about. FYI – I usually use Lightroom or ‘ON1 Photo Raw 2023’ in post editing but the attached pictures have not been modified.
Thanks for your suggestion in advance.
Regards,
Apr 3, 2023 10:21:51 #
Files are to large to append to this document. However, I did save them as *.jpg without any post editing.
Apr 3, 2023 10:31:10 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
RedBaron4730 wrote:
Good morning, All, br br Issue: Correct the amou... (show quote)
Use DXO PL6 to process your raw files or if you prefer to keep using LR then use DXO PureRAW to convert your raw files to DNGs before completing processing in LR.
Apr 3, 2023 11:07:36 #
DxO PureRAW 3 is a good option for converting your raw files. Alternatively any of the latest AI noise reduction tools will do a good job.
Your posted pics don't look too bad and some processing in Lr would probably be enough to get them looking acceptable, but it sounds as though your PP skills are basic so your best option is probably to get advanced software to do the heavy lifting for you. The white spots will probably need cloning to get rid of them. Do you get the spots only with that lens? They don't look like sensor spots and they seem to move about.
Your posted pics don't look too bad and some processing in Lr would probably be enough to get them looking acceptable, but it sounds as though your PP skills are basic so your best option is probably to get advanced software to do the heavy lifting for you. The white spots will probably need cloning to get rid of them. Do you get the spots only with that lens? They don't look like sensor spots and they seem to move about.
Apr 3, 2023 12:42:20 #
RedBaron4730 wrote:
Good morning, All, br br Issue: Correct the amou... (show quote)
None of the settings you shared have much to do with noise. Noise comes from high ISO and correcting under exposure. 320 at f11 in that location probably means you’re using a hi ISO but you didn’t say what it was. Slow your shutter down, open up that lens, get your ISO off auto so you know what it’s doing, and your noise should go down. You don’t need a special program to correct the noise. A little noise reduction in any editor goes a long ways. I shoot for weeks at a time at ISO 1600 in the winter covering stage shows and with a minor tweak there is no noise. My camera uses the same processor. And clean your sensor.
…Cam
Apr 3, 2023 13:22:41 #
RedBaron4730 wrote:
Files are to large to append to this document. However, I did save them as *.jpg without any post editing.
Nikon doesn't make a 28-107mm zoom, but that is irrelevant as your problems don't appear to be lens related.
As CamB pointed out you are probably using a high ISO which is the cause of the noise. As for the "spots"...your sensor is probably dirty and needs cleaning.
Apr 3, 2023 13:52:19 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
CamB wrote:
None of the settings you shared have much to do wi... (show quote)
I agree with these comments. In my experience, D500 noise "problems" are much more likely to arise from underexposure than from a reasonably high ISO choice. I second the suggestion to turn Auto ISO off. And try other metering modes. Highlight Weighted Metering may work better for you here. Matrix metering may get confused. And you may want to dial in some Exposure Compensation. Finally, make sure that Flicker Reduction is enabled. The stage environment is exactly what it's for.
Live stage photography isn't particularly difficult, but there's a lot to keep track of. Keeping track of all the moving parts can be a little bit like herding cats. By the way...learn or figure out the Kelvin temperature of the base lighting, set it in your camera, and turn Auto White Balance off, too. Otherwise effects lighting is going to drive both you and your camera nuts.
Apr 4, 2023 08:23:06 #
Consider On1 NoNoise. I find it to be better than DXO; however, I have not tried the new version recently released of DXO.
Apr 4, 2023 08:53:39 #
If you want less digital noise, use a lower ISO. Either use a slower shutter speed or a wider aperture, or both. Add light (flash) when possible. Process the files afterwards, RAW rather than JPEG. Only you can decide with option delivers the best results for the minimum effort and / or new equipment and software.
Apr 4, 2023 13:38:53 #
jlocke
Loc: Austin, TX
Looking at the EXIF data, both of your photos were taken at f/10, 1/60 sec. and ISO 22800. If that ISO number is correct, those photos actually look pretty good where noise is concerned. Run them through Topaz DeNoise and I'll bet they clean up nicely.
Apr 4, 2023 17:06:46 #
Your spots may be dust - a D500 has the option to clean the sensor every time you turn it on - past that Topaz AI should do a good job on noise - I think you can try it for free
Apr 4, 2023 18:00:09 #
fetzler
Loc: North West PA
I have no idea why one would pick an Aperture AND a Shutter speed to make a photo. One needs to consider lighting the need for depth of field and any motion of the subject. In this image nothing is moving so you can use any shutter speed. jlock has reported your settings. Your photo suggests that you used a flash and indeed a very weak one for this purpose. It would seem that an aperture of f4 or f5.6 would be sufficient. Assuming a 3 stop correction by opening the aperture and keeping the shutter speed the same would bring the ISO down to 2800 or so. ISO 3200 should be rather acceptable. Lowering your shutter speed 1/15 sec would give you ISO 800. A tripod would be nice here but many cameras with vibration reduction or IBIS can be handheld at 1/15 sec if the focal length isn't long.
Apr 4, 2023 19:33:54 #
jlocke wrote:
Looking at the EXIF data, both of your photos were taken at f/10, 1/60 sec. and ISO 22800. If that ISO number is correct, those photos actually look pretty good where noise is concerned. Run them through Topaz DeNoise and I'll bet they clean up nicely.
28800 ISO! No wonder there is noise. I can’t imagine using these settings in this circumstance. I think there is a lack of understanding about how all the settings relate to one another.
Apr 4, 2023 19:51:55 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
CamB wrote:
28800 ISO! No wonder there is noise. I can’t imagine using these settings in this circumstance. I think there is a lack of understanding about how all the settings relate to one another.
I think it is stems from using Auto ISO without watching out for what is going on.
Apr 4, 2023 20:09:58 #
RedBaron4730 wrote:
Good morning, All, br br Issue: Correct the amou... (show quote)
Redbaron4730,
I defer to the advise for camera adjustments already given and while you did not ask for an adjusted copy of your picture I did the following with On1 Raw. I used the healing brush for the ledge under the two panels on the backdrop; the perfect eraser for all other blemishes. Then the following settings were applied: exp. o.15, contrast 16, highlights and mid-tones -100 both, structure 24 and haze -25. I used noise ai with luminance at 100, enhance detail at 4, color I left alone at 100 and micro-sharpening at 20. I exported the picture at 90 quality for jpeg. Hope you like it, Carl
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