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Apr 2, 2023 10:18:03   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
When I used film I had to plan ahead. I was limited in money and couldn’t waste shots. No pictures of my dinner. No pictures taken "just because I could". I had to plan ahead and work at it. Film was a limited resource. Digital tends to make me lazy about planning ahead. Your thoughts.

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Apr 2, 2023 10:20:51   #
BebuLamar
 
gvarner wrote:
When I used film I had to plan ahead. I was limited in money and couldn’t waste shots. No pictures of my dinner. No pictures taken "just because I could". I had to plan ahead and work at it. Film was a limited resource. Digital tends to make me lazy about planning ahead. Your thoughts.


You can do the same with digital. To be truly free you shouldn't do things only when you have to.

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Apr 2, 2023 10:23:57   #
Tote1940 Loc: Dallas
 
gvarner wrote:
When I used film I had to plan ahead. I was limited in money and couldn’t waste shots. No pictures of my dinner. No pictures taken "just because I could". I had to plan ahead and work at it. Film was a limited resource. Digital tends to make me lazy about planning ahead. Your thoughts.


Cost
Digital almost free just equipment
Not adjusting for inflation film was expensive that made me use crappy emulsions not a goid shot
Same for tape recorded video at slow speeds now regret it ( all digitized by now)
Anyone remember film costs?

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Apr 2, 2023 10:27:27   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
I guess before addressing the specific question, it would be nice to know the degree of dedication that you put into photography, and whether that has changed over the years. I suspect, looking at your ‘signature’ list, that you are a serious user.

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Apr 2, 2023 10:33:44   #
BebuLamar
 
Tote1940 wrote:
Cost
Digital almost free just equipment
Not adjusting for inflation film was expensive that made me use crappy emulsions not a goid shot
Same for tape recorded video at slow speeds now regret it ( all digitized by now)
Anyone remember film costs?


I remember film cost. Between late 70's and late 90's the price of film isn't much different although the value of the money due to inflation were significantly different. So in other words price of film went down in that period.
Now price of film raises faster than the inflation.
But I don't shoot any more digital shots than film. I take the same consideration regardless.

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Apr 2, 2023 10:38:59   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
If you require more structure to avoid what you deem "laziness," restrict yourself to 10 images per outing. When must-have #11 presents itself, delete one of the existing 10. Hopefully, you will go home with 10 keepers that you have carefully and thoughtfully composed and shot - and feel good about your time investment.

My personal approach since beginning my journey with playful processing is to harvest pixels - sometimes bumper crops of 'em! Taking lots of photos in right-brain mode (no analyzing on scene) for potential use in my digital darkroom.

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Apr 2, 2023 10:47:22   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The active whining thread can be found at: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-769788-1.html

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Apr 2, 2023 10:56:30   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Some kinds of photography benefit from taking lots of shots. Basically, anything which involves moving subjects, but particularly sports or performances. I used to budget film when I was shooting for myself, and I think that now with digital, taking as many shots as I want has benefited my photography of those kind of subjects. Anything like landscapes or macros where I have all the time I need, I don't take any more shots than I did with film.

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Apr 2, 2023 11:17:01   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Imagine yourself as a successful photographer. Did you take too few or too many great images?

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Apr 2, 2023 11:26:58   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
gvarner wrote:
When I used film I had to plan ahead. I was limited in money and couldn’t waste shots. No pictures of my dinner. No pictures taken "just because I could". I had to plan ahead and work at it. Film was a limited resource. Digital tends to make me lazy about planning ahead. Your thoughts.


My thoughts? If you created better photographs with film, then go back to it. But not for me.

My goal is the same. Can I get one photo worthy of wall hanging a month? I have to plan how I do that.

My odds are better with digital. Getting film through the darkroom process was slow and smelly. Once the door was closed, I isolated myself from my then young family. I don't miss it at all.

All the tools and techniques associated with digital are far superior. And cost? My computer, Adobe software and a half dozen cameras cost a fraction of what I spent on film cameras, building a darkroom and keeping it in supplies.

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Apr 2, 2023 11:28:44   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Your first 10,000 images are your worst. Thank goodness they're now all digital.

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Apr 2, 2023 11:53:12   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
gvarner wrote:
When I used film I had to plan ahead. I was limited in money and couldn’t waste shots. No pictures of my dinner. No pictures taken "just because I could". I had to plan ahead and work at it. Film was a limited resource. Digital tends to make me lazy about planning ahead. Your thoughts.


In spite of the fact that film has become expensive, it was not uncommon to bring eight to ten rolls of film to the pharmacy. I never photographed my food or anything else so quaint. I would have my unused film separate. After I finished one roll, I would reach into the bag and pull out another roll not knowing what it is. It is great for pot-luck photos and on the fly shots. I really didn’t plan on what to or not to photograph. It was the luck of the shutter.

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Apr 2, 2023 11:55:46   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Your first 10,000 images are your worst. Thank goodness they're now all digital.


Paul, I don’t that that was in your case. Perhaps the first three or maybe four shots were not the best. From then on, you’re good!!

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Apr 2, 2023 12:01:31   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Scruples wrote:
Paul, I don’t that that was in your case. Perhaps the first three or maybe four shots were not the best. From then on, you’re good!!


I try to load a roll of film I plan (expect) to finish on a single subject. When I don't, I find I begin wishing I had something different loaded for a different subject. I'm down to only one film camera I actively use, the two others are MF I'd sell if someone wanted them. When I had multiple cameras loaded, it got even harder to finish even one roll.

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Apr 2, 2023 12:14:41   #
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gvarner wrote:
When I used film I had to plan ahead. I was limited in money and couldn’t waste shots. No pictures of my dinner. No pictures taken "just because I could". I had to plan ahead and work at it. Film was a limited resource. Digital tends to make me lazy about planning ahead. Your thoughts.

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