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Mar 31, 2023 14:47:55   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
I'll start:

> The cost of subscription software — Either subscribe or buy a stand-alone license for something else.

> The fact that subscription software is a thing — Developers have to eat, too.

> The cost of decent lab prints — If you ever worked in a lab, you would know why good prints cost good money — especially in today's low volume environment!

> The cost of ink and inkjet papers for dedicated photo inkjet printers — Do you want the best? Yes? Then hush. It's five times the price of silver halide, and worth it.

> The cost of film for film photography — Run the prices through an inflation calculator. You'll be shocked at what a bargain it is — IF you still use film. I know I paid more than $3.26 a roll for the same film in 1980 that costs $12.00 a roll today. But I'll take a $12.00 64GB SDXC card over a roll of film, today.

> Raw vs. JPEG — They both have their uses as workflows. Life is full of trade-offs. Pick yours today!

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Mar 31, 2023 14:55:40   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll start:

> The cost of subscription software — Either subscribe or buy a stand-alone license for something else.

> The fact that subscription software is a thing — Developers have to eat, too.

> The cost of decent lab prints — If you ever worked in a lab, you would know why good prints cost good money — especially in today's low volume environment!

> The cost of ink and inkjet papers for dedicated photo inkjet printers — Do you want the best? Yes? Then hush. It's five times the price of silver halide, and worth it.

> The cost of film for film photography — Run the prices through an inflation calculator. You'll be shocked at what a bargain it is — IF you still use film. I know I paid more than $3.26 a roll for the same film in 1980 that costs $12.00 a roll today. But I'll take a $12.00 64GB SDXC card over a roll of film, today.

> Raw vs. JPEG — They both have their uses as workflows. Life is full of trade-offs. Pick yours today!
I'll start: br br > The cost of subscription s... (show quote)



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Mar 31, 2023 15:07:05   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The mistake of owning inferior camera brands

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Mar 31, 2023 15:08:18   #
User ID
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll start:

> The cost of subscription software — Either subscribe or buy a stand-alone license for something else.

> The fact that subscription software is a thing — Developers have to eat, too.

> The cost of decent lab prints — If you ever worked in a lab, you would know why good prints cost good money — especially in today's low volume environment!

> The cost of ink and inkjet papers for dedicated photo inkjet printers — Do you want the best? Yes? Then hush. It's five times the price of silver halide, and worth it.

> The cost of film for film photography — Run the prices through an inflation calculator. You'll be shocked at what a bargain it is — IF you still use film. I know I paid more than $3.26 a roll for the same film in 1980 that costs $12.00 a roll today. But I'll take a $12.00 64GB SDXC card over a roll of film, today.

> Raw vs. JPEG — They both have their uses as workflows. Life is full of trade-offs. Pick yours today!
I'll start: br br > The cost of subscription s... (show quote)
Your whole post could have been one word: COST.

Here my one word: PROGRESS.

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Mar 31, 2023 15:11:37   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll start:

> The cost of subscription software — Either subscribe or buy a stand-alone license for something else.

> The fact that subscription software is a thing — Developers have to eat, too.

> The cost of decent lab prints — If you ever worked in a lab, you would know why good prints cost good money — especially in today's low volume environment!

> The cost of ink and inkjet papers for dedicated photo inkjet printers — Do you want the best? Yes? Then hush. It's five times the price of silver halide, and worth it.

> The cost of film for film photography — Run the prices through an inflation calculator. You'll be shocked at what a bargain it is — IF you still use film. I know I paid more than $3.26 a roll for the same film in 1980 that costs $12.00 a roll today. But I'll take a $12.00 64GB SDXC card over a roll of film, today.

> Raw vs. JPEG — They both have their uses as workflows. Life is full of trade-offs. Pick yours today!
I'll start: br br > The cost of subscription s... (show quote)


When I saw the title my first thought was whining about the cost of the Lightroom/Photoshop subscription. Then I saw you had it first on your list!

I'll add three:

> Phones aren't real cameras.

> "They" shouldn't end DSLR development.

> "They" shouldn't make me buy a camera that records video.

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Mar 31, 2023 15:13:42   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll start:

> The cost of subscription software — Either subscribe or buy a stand-alone license for something else.


User ID wrote:
Your whole post could have been one word: COST.

Here my one word: PROGRESS.


While I admit that progress can be either positive or negative, the subscription model for Adobe has reduced the cost of LR/PS. I rank that one as positive progress.

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Mar 31, 2023 15:16:23   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll start:

> The cost of subscription software — Either subscribe or buy a stand-alone license for something else.

> The fact that subscription software is a thing — Developers have to eat, too.

> The cost of decent lab prints — If you ever worked in a lab, you would know why good prints cost good money — especially in today's low volume environment!

> The cost of ink and inkjet papers for dedicated photo inkjet printers — Do you want the best? Yes? Then hush. It's five times the price of silver halide, and worth it.

> The cost of film for film photography — Run the prices through an inflation calculator. You'll be shocked at what a bargain it is — IF you still use film. I know I paid more than $3.26 a roll for the same film in 1980 that costs $12.00 a roll today. But I'll take a $12.00 64GB SDXC card over a roll of film, today.

> Raw vs. JPEG — They both have their uses as workflows. Life is full of trade-offs. Pick yours today!
I'll start: br br > The cost of subscription s... (show quote)


Your repetitious use of the word "COST" will drive many here away from it.

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Mar 31, 2023 15:21:46   #
pendennis
 
The ongoing droning about the "Nikon Z8".

For Pete's sake, it'll be here when it gets here!

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Mar 31, 2023 15:26:17   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
While I admit that progress can be either positive or negative, the subscription model for Adobe has reduced the cost of LR/PS. I rank that one as positive progress.


There are several positive benefits to subscriptions that are often overlooked.

The Lightroom/Photoshop program is better because of the subscription system. The steady cash flow allows planned, intentional and effective product development. They know what they can invest and work on it consistently.

If you have a business, it is a lot easier to "expense" lower monthly costs than to "invest in" and "depreciate" expensive assets.

It helps to minimize software piracy. Besides being wrong, "pirates" don't contribute to the company's product development that we that pay benefit from.

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Mar 31, 2023 15:30:33   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Burkphoto wrote:
What do you wish photographers would QUIT WHINING ABOUT?

Subscription software.

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Mar 31, 2023 15:37:19   #
gwilliams6
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll start:

> The cost of subscription software — Either subscribe or buy a stand-alone license for something else.

> The fact that subscription software is a thing — Developers have to eat, too.

> The cost of decent lab prints — If you ever worked in a lab, you would know why good prints cost good money — especially in today's low volume environment!

> The cost of ink and inkjet papers for dedicated photo inkjet printers — Do you want the best? Yes? Then hush. It's five times the price of silver halide, and worth it.

> The cost of film for film photography — Run the prices through an inflation calculator. You'll be shocked at what a bargain it is — IF you still use film. I know I paid more than $3.26 a roll for the same film in 1980 that costs $12.00 a roll today. But I'll take a $12.00 64GB SDXC card over a roll of film, today.

> Raw vs. JPEG — They both have their uses as workflows. Life is full of trade-offs. Pick yours today!
I'll start: br br > The cost of subscription s... (show quote)



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Mar 31, 2023 16:09:50   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll start:

> The cost of subscription software — Either subscribe or buy a stand-alone license for something else.

> The fact that subscription software is a thing — Developers have to eat, too.

> The cost of decent lab prints — If you ever worked in a lab, you would know why good prints cost good money — especially in today's low volume environment!

> The cost of ink and inkjet papers for dedicated photo inkjet printers — Do you want the best? Yes? Then hush. It's five times the price of silver halide, and worth it.

> The cost of film for film photography — Run the prices through an inflation calculator. You'll be shocked at what a bargain it is — IF you still use film. I know I paid more than $3.26 a roll for the same film in 1980 that costs $12.00 a roll today. But I'll take a $12.00 64GB SDXC card over a roll of film, today.

> Raw vs. JPEG — They both have their uses as workflows. Life is full of trade-offs. Pick yours today!
I'll start: br br > The cost of subscription s... (show quote)


The choice of subject matter and level of work done by other picture-takers.

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Mar 31, 2023 16:22:32   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
User ID wrote:
Your whole post could have been one word: COST.

Here my one word: PROGRESS.



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Mar 31, 2023 16:23:59   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bsprague wrote:
When I saw the title my first thought was whining about the cost of the Lightroom/Photoshop subscription. Then I saw you had it first on your list!

I'll add three:

> Phones aren't real cameras.

> "They" shouldn't end DSLR development.

> "They" shouldn't make me buy a camera that records video.


I always want to know who “they” are.

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Mar 31, 2023 16:25:55   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
davidrb wrote:
Your repetitious use of the word "COST" will drive many here away from it.


Away from what? Whining about cost? Good! (If so)

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