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Mar 24, 2023 18:15:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Basil wrote:
I can certainly understand the appeal of going that route. If it serves you well, that's all that matters.


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Mar 24, 2023 18:30:11   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Basil wrote:
In other words, I am at a place in my life where I will buy what I want, if it interests me, but I usually try to get the best deals I can. Does more gear make me feel better? Well, I enjoy the hobby of photography and very much enjoy trying out new gear with different capabilities. So, yes, I guess you could say it makes me feel better - because I'm having fun.


Well said!

A while back shooting wild flowers I used a 35mm F/1.8 DX, an 800mm F/5.6, and a few others in between.

The reason made sense to me, it was fun. If that doesn't make sense to some folks, that's OK too. I've spent decades doing many things that don't make sense, and only regret a few.

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Mar 24, 2023 19:02:29   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"...right decision on keeping the 135 f2L - a great lens..."
Totally agree with Tri-X

I have/shoot the Nikkor variant of the aforementioned...
It's in a class unique to none other...

Have a colleague who shoots the Canon variant and she literally cherishes it for Beauty/Fashion editorials...

And a sincere thanks for your 24 years of service to our country Basil... It is deeply appreciated...
Likely more than you may realize... Just as in your poignant post "A nice, unexpected surprise" there are countless other Americans who are humbled by the service to country from our Veterans...

All the best on your journey Basil...

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Mar 24, 2023 19:11:31   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"...right decision on keeping the 135 f2L - a great lens..."
Totally agree with Tri-X

I have/shoot the Nikkor variant of the aforementioned...
It's in a class unique to none other...

Have a colleague who shoots the Canon variant and she literally cherishes it for Beauty/Fashion editorials...

And a sincere thanks for your 24 years of service to our country Basil... It is deeply appreciated...
Likely more than you may realize... Just as in your poignant post "A nice, unexpected surprise" there are countless other Americans who are humbled by the service to country from our Veterans...

All the best on your journey Basil...
"...right decision on keeping the 135 f2L - a... (show quote)


Thank you Thomas, much appreciated.

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Mar 24, 2023 21:28:03   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Basil wrote:
Now that I have bought into the mirrorless world and purchased a Canon R5, I have begun the process of deciding which EF lenses to keep and which to sell and replace with RF versions.

The EF lenses I've replaced so far are:
EF 24-105 (Replaced with RF 24-105)
EF 70-200 f4 Non-IS (replaced with RF 70-200 f4 IS)

EF Lenses I'm (so far) keeping:
Sigma 150-600 Contemporary (already tried it out on Birds and it works great)
Canon 300mm f4 L prime
Canon 135 f2
Canon 50mm f1/4

One RF lens that wasn't a replacement, but a new focal length for my kit was the Canon RF 85mm f2. I have always wanted a good 85mm. I would have loved to buy the RF 85 f/1.2 for its creamy bokeh and low light capabilities, but dang, $2600 (on sale) - yikes! The 85 f/2 I recently bought (refurbished) for $489 from Canon is really a terrific lens! Sharp as a tack and great color rendition. Plus, it's much smaller and lighter that the f1.2 "beast" and will cover my needs most of the time.

But this got me thinking - looking at the used market, it is possible to get the EF 85 L II f/1.2 in good used condition for under $1000. Let's just say $1000 for sake of discussion. If I kept the RF 85 f2 for hiking and travel and 90% of my shooting, I could buy a used EF 85 for those occasions when I really felt I needed those extra stops, whether for better bokeh or better low light performance. So for about 1/2 the cost of a new RF 85, I could have the best of both worlds - one lens that's light and small and easy to tote around for everyday use, and another lens for special occasions when that 1.2 is needed. And all this while saving a ton of cash.

Does that scheme make sense?
Now that I have bought into the mirrorless world a... (show quote)


So.... If I were to buy an EF 85mm f/1.2 I think that I would stick with the first version, in my opinion and in the opinion of some of the reviews I have read it is the better of the two lenses. I did have one but I also have the Sigma 105 f/1.4... One of them had to go, the 85 is a very sexy lens with that huge front element.

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Mar 24, 2023 21:51:04   #
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Blurryeyed wrote:
So.... If I were to buy an EF 85mm f/1.2 I think that I would stick with the first version, in my opinion and in the opinion of some of the reviews I have read it is the better of the two lenses. I did have one but I also have the Sigma 105 f/1.4... One of them had to go, the 85 is a very sexy lens with that huge front element.

*If* there were a 1.2x TC for the 85/1.2 the combination would create a 105/1.5 ... and so the Sigma 105/1.4 front glass should be equally impressive.

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Mar 24, 2023 22:31:22   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
User ID wrote:
*If* there were a 1.2x TC for the 85/1.2 the combination would create a 105/1.5 ... and so the Sigma 105/1.4 front glass should be equally impressive.


Actually more so, the sigma has a 105mm front element, it is a beast that makes it awkward to use for normal photography. I could never decide which produced the better backgrounds, both are extremely creamy but the Canon is just a sexy lens but it too has its drawbacks, very slow focusing for one. I kept the Sigma because it definitely focuses faster and it was a much newer lens.



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Mar 24, 2023 23:36:37   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
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Mar 24, 2023 23:49:03   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So.... If I were to buy an EF 85mm f/1.2 I think that I would stick with the first version, in my opinion and in the opinion of some of the reviews I have read it is the better of the two lenses. I did have one but I also have the Sigma 105 f/1.4... One of them had to go, the 85 is a very sexy lens with that huge front element.


That’s interesting. I’ll have to look up some comparison reviews. I wonder which works better on an R5?

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Mar 25, 2023 00:00:38   #
User ID
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Actually more so, the sigma has a 105mm front element, it is a beast that makes it awkward to use for normal photography. I could never decide which produced the better backgrounds, both are extremely creamy but the Canon is just a sexy lens but it too has its drawbacks, very slow focusing for one. I kept the Sigma because it definitely focuses faster and it was a much newer lens.

Yowza ... a 105, a short tele, with a tripod foot ?!? Thaz definitely nothing Id care to deal with myself.

I do have a 105/1.8 and that gets minimal use cuz I consider it a bit beastly and I do have "more reasonable" lenses in the 90 thru 105 range.

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Back in the Sony A-mount era I had both their 100/2.0 and 85/1.4, and as the end of that era was approaching those two were the first that I sold off cuz there were still some A-mount users lusting after them before the prices spiraled down. Very recently picked up an 80/2.8 A-mount ... very tidy little lens. I still use several A-mounts on Sony adapters.

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Mar 25, 2023 06:04:56   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Basil wrote:
Now that I have bought into the mirrorless world and purchased a Canon R5, I have begun the process of deciding which EF lenses to keep and which to sell and replace with RF versions.

The EF lenses I've replaced so far are:
EF 24-105 (Replaced with RF 24-105)
EF 70-200 f4 Non-IS (replaced with RF 70-200 f4 IS)

EF Lenses I'm (so far) keeping:
Sigma 150-600 Contemporary (already tried it out on Birds and it works great)
Canon 300mm f4 L prime
Canon 135 f2
Canon 50mm f1/4

One RF lens that wasn't a replacement, but a new focal length for my kit was the Canon RF 85mm f2. I have always wanted a good 85mm. I would have loved to buy the RF 85 f/1.2 for its creamy bokeh and low light capabilities, but dang, $2600 (on sale) - yikes! The 85 f/2 I recently bought (refurbished) for $489 from Canon is really a terrific lens! Sharp as a tack and great color rendition. Plus, it's much smaller and lighter that the f1.2 "beast" and will cover my needs most of the time.

But this got me thinking - looking at the used market, it is possible to get the EF 85 L II f/1.2 in good used condition for under $1000. Let's just say $1000 for sake of discussion. If I kept the RF 85 f2 for hiking and travel and 90% of my shooting, I could buy a used EF 85 for those occasions when I really felt I needed those extra stops, whether for better bokeh or better low light performance. So for about 1/2 the cost of a new RF 85, I could have the best of both worlds - one lens that's light and small and easy to tote around for everyday use, and another lens for special occasions when that 1.2 is needed. And all this while saving a ton of cash.

Does that scheme make sense?
Now that I have bought into the mirrorless world a... (show quote)


The problem I see is if you have both and mostly use the f2 except special occasions how will you know when those special occasions arise and will you by chance have the f1.2?
I would have only the one f1.2 and leave it at that.
Always ready for the special occasion but not that big of a burden to use all the time.

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Mar 25, 2023 07:03:58   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
tramsey wrote:
I don't understand why you feel you need seven lens or are you a professional photographer. I can see three or four but seven?


I have 140 🤣

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Mar 25, 2023 08:06:00   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
tramsey wrote:
I don't understand why you feel you need seven lens or are you a professional photographer. I can see three or four but seven?


Three zooms, and four primes sound reasonable to me for various types of shooting.
If one can afford it why not? (Especially if he enjoys it)


By the way, I have 10+... sometimes it's fun to play with different toys.

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Mar 25, 2023 08:32:53   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
There is no way in Hell you are going to get the 1.2 lens used for 1000. Unless maybe it's all beat up. Or fell out of an airplane.

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Mar 25, 2023 08:54:05   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
foathog wrote:
There is no way in Hell you are going to get the 1.2 lens used for 1000. Unless maybe it's all beat up. Or fell out of an airplane.


Really?
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