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Mar 6, 2023 13:34:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Tesla has lowered the prices of its two top models to $90,000 for the "S" and $100,000 for the "X." Get one now and start saving money on gas!

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Mar 6, 2023 13:39:17   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Tesla has lowered the prices of its two top models to $90,000 for the "S" and $100,000 for the "X." Get one now and start saving money on gas!


I wonder what the range on Canadian Teslas this winter.

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Mar 6, 2023 13:40:22   #
Harold Stetson Loc: Marquam 97038
 
Electricity isn't free. How much would I save not filling a 12 gallon gas tank versus charging a Tesla from 30 percent to 100 percent? Our gas is 3.459 per gallon. Lets use that.

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Mar 6, 2023 13:45:34   #
Harold Stetson Loc: Marquam 97038
 
The range question wasn't there when I posted but I teach about batteries and a lead acid battery loses 40 percent power by 30 degrees F. I don't know if lithium is the same and I am trying to find out. A friend has a Kia and he drove from Portland to the coast of Oregon. He had to look for a charging station to make it home as the colder weather used some power, he needed a heater and it is electric. He needed wipers and they are electric. Additionally Kia advises not charging to 100 percent and only going 80 percent. That is opposed to most batteries, does anyone know why to limit charging?

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Mar 6, 2023 13:49:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Nope, nope, nope.

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Mar 6, 2023 13:59:16   #
Archboo3 Loc: Central Florida
 
$100,000. for a car and then I get to replace the battery for another 5-10 Thousand. Oh Yea the best part. I get to support slavery in Africa, yea, that's right the minerals to build those electric cars come from the slave mines still in Africa.

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Mar 6, 2023 14:00:31   #
Ollieboy
 
Harold Stetson wrote:
The range question wasn't there when I posted but I teach about batteries and a lead acid battery loses 40 percent power by 30 degrees F. I don't know if lithium is the same and I am trying to find out. A friend has a Kia and he drove from Portland to the coast of Oregon and had to look for a charging station to make it home as the colder weather used some power, he needed a heater and it is electric. He needed wipers and they are electric. Additionally Kia advises not charging to 100 percent and only going 80 percent. That is opposed to most batteries, does anyone know why to limit charging?
The range question wasn't there when I posted but ... (show quote)


I beleive it's to extend the life of the battery.

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Mar 6, 2023 14:02:29   #
dick ranez
 
Where can I buy a can of electricity if I need it?

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Mar 6, 2023 14:12:59   #
Harold Stetson Loc: Marquam 97038
 
I have heard that it costs more to charge a Tesla that to fill my Volvo. I have not been able to verify that so this is an information question not a statement in any way. I worked for a power supplier and know that right now there are not enough electrons in the grid to go electric but that can be fixed in time. Maybe not 2030 but in time. What about the cost of it?

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Mar 6, 2023 14:35:37   #
maciej
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Tesla has lowered the prices of its two top models to $90,000 for the "S" and $100,000 for the "X." Get one now and start saving money on gas!


I have been driving an electric vehicle since the begining of 2019. Like any other vehicle you have to be aware of fuel/energy requirements. Liquid fueled autos use more energy in very cold and hot weather as do electric vehicles.
I charge over 90% of the time at home - we only charge at charging stations on longer trips. We live on California's central coast and can make it to or from Yosemite NP or down to San Diego or San Francisco on one full charge.
Cost wise, using current power costs we save around $70 to $100 /mo based on Power Co Charging. In reality we have Solar so the cost saving is quite a bit more. On the road charging is what the charge at the charging station is and that is typically quite a bit less than what we would have spent on gasoline or diesel. In addition the service cost is much lower with an EV no oil changes etc. Some fluid changes every 2 years or so.
So it is, as in all things, how you use your vehicle that affects the affordability decision. If your driving is mostly around town or commutes up to 60 or 100mi. each way or so - the EV will save you big time. For long trips it will still save you money but you need to be more aware of where you charge - generally not a problem in most area.
I hope this helps.

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Mar 6, 2023 14:47:30   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
maciej wrote:
I have been driving an electric vehicle since the begining of 2019. Like any other vehicle you have to be aware of fuel/energy requirements. Liquid fueled autos use more energy in very cold and hot weather as do electric vehicles.
I charge over 90% of the time at home - we only charge at charging stations on longer trips. We live on California's central coast and can make it to or from Yosemite NP or down to San Diego or San Francisco on one full charge.
Cost wise, using current power costs we save around $70 to $100 /mo based on Power Co Charging. In reality we have Solar so the cost saving is quite a bit more. On the road charging is what the charge at the charging station is and that is typically quite a bit less than what we would have spent on gasoline or diesel. In addition the service cost is much lower with an EV no oil changes etc. Some fluid changes every 2 years or so.
So it is, as in all things, how you use your vehicle that affects the affordability decision. If your driving is mostly around town or commutes up to 60 or 100mi. each way or so - the EV will save you big time. For long trips it will still save you money but you need to be more aware of where you charge - generally not a problem in most area.
I hope this helps.
I have been driving an electric vehicle since the ... (show quote)


How many miles do you get get before the battery needs replacing? and at what cost?

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Mar 6, 2023 15:14:50   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Tesla has lowered the prices of its two top models to $90,000 for the "S" and $100,000 for the "X." Get one now and start saving money on gas!


Gee, let's see...by the year 4013 the car would pay for itself. Thanks for the update Jerry, I'm going to check them out tomorrow.

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Mar 6, 2023 15:17:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
Gee, let's see...by the year 4013 the car would pay for itself thanks Jerry. I'm going to check them out now.


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Mar 6, 2023 15:27:08   #
maciej
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
How many miles do you get get before the battery needs replacing? and at what cost?


Well they have examples that have gone the equivalent of 2 million miles.
More realistically, my sister has an older model S (2015) whose battery needed replacement after over 150,000 mi. It is a function of not just charging but how you charge and how much fast charging you do. The good news was Tesla replaced her battery at no charge under their standard guarantee. I think Tesla guarantees no more than 15% reduction in capacity in 250,000 mi or 10 years - I would have to check the actual paperwork to get the exact numbers.

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Mar 6, 2023 15:28:13   #
Harold Stetson Loc: Marquam 97038
 
I am surprised that since they use oil for cooling and it wanders through the engine that it wouldn't need oil changes much sooner than that. I was at an EV seminar recently and they talked about how the cooling oil will collect micro metal particles and need changed. Surprised it isn't more often than that. You don't have the really cold weather in the coast of California. How does cold affect a Lithium compared to lead acid?

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