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Mar 4, 2023 10:58:11   #
lhbpe Loc: North Carolina
 

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Mar 4, 2023 11:10:38   #
Gort55 Loc: Northern Colorado
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
This is in regards to the situation with Graham Thurkill. I'm commenting here as well as in his post today: "This is My Last Post.././....Graham" so that hopefully you can come up with a solution. There are those of us ADULTS who enjoy his jokes (immensely I might add) and others who are offended (I believe, in the great minority). I thought "General Chit Chat" was meant for the jokes that Graham has for us. If a few folks don't like them, or for that matter if a lot of folks don't like them, DON'T LOOK AT THEM!!! He has an easily recognizable avatar...if you see it, you know what to expect...MOVE ON!!!!! Why should the MAJORITY of us have to concede to a few tight-asses? We would all appreciate a response and hopefully a positive solution. Thank you for your consideration, Ray
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Mar 4, 2023 11:15:15   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
to Graham!

No doubt Admin has a scan key word set to put anything stated on the review list.

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Mar 4, 2023 13:34:52   #
Mr. SONY Loc: LI, NY
 

If anybody doesn't like Grahams posts all they have to do is not open them.
Leave his posts for the rest of us.

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Mar 4, 2023 13:52:39   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
This is in regards to the situation with Graham Thurkill. I'm commenting here as well as in his post today: "This is My Last Post.././....Graham" so that hopefully you can come up with a solution. There are those of us ADULTS who enjoy his jokes (immensely I might add) and others who are offended (I believe, in the great minority). I thought "General Chit Chat" was meant for the jokes that Graham has for us. If a few folks don't like them, or for that matter if a lot of folks don't like them, DON'T LOOK AT THEM!!! He has an easily recognizable avatar...if you see it, you know what to expect...MOVE ON!!!!! Why should the MAJORITY of us have to concede to a few tight-asses? We would all appreciate a response and hopefully a positive solution. Thank you for your consideration, Ray
This is in regards to the situation with Graham Th... (show quote)


I will back that up. Graham sometimes over does it, but I enjoy some of them and ignore the others.

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Mar 4, 2023 15:08:16   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
I heartily endorse this message. πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
Thanks for doing it, Papa!
I've seen nothing that would cross any line on other mainstream social media.

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Mar 4, 2023 15:26:01   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
I try to keep in mind that we are guests here and it could possibly be argued that once warned, the Attic might be a more suitable platform IAW Admin's rules.

Quite frankly though, those that complain could skip future threads, but whining might be more fun.

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Mar 4, 2023 18:49:13   #
Admin
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
This is in regards to the situation with Graham Thurkill.


You are assuming what he wrote in his little outburst is true. (Hint: it isn't.)

He did receive a PM from me about one of his jokes that was really over the top, but that was some ago, and he posted plenty after that. And that PM was basically me asking him to "tone it down" without any "threats". So it's safe to say last night's topic wasn't about his jokes being "too much to handle for some prudes".

Here is the message he received from me yesterday, which caused him to post his "This My Last Post" topic:

Admin wrote:
Your posting access to the GCC section will be revoked next time you post politics in that section. You've had enough warnings.

We have people who come here to get away from all that. When you inject politics into their feed, you are ruining their forum experience.



He received this message because prior to that he posted politics in GCC on at least five different occasions. And he has received a warning each time he did it. Yet, he didn't seem to care. So the next step after that is a ban from the section.

Let's look at the rules for the GCC section:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-3540-1.html

Reading these rules, can you guess what's the one thing you shouldn't be posting in GCC? And all the regulars know this one rule.

But Graham Thirkill seems to think he is special and rules shouldn't apply to him. I disagree.

If he continues to post politics in GCC, he will be banned from this section. Just like any other user.

And now, go back and re-read how he decided to describe the situation:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-767330-1.html

Do you really want us to have this conversation? Because it would have to be a conversation about lack of integrity on Graham Thirkill's part. He literally just made something up to paint himself as some kind of victim and how everyone else is a prude or kill-joy and how they are pathetic.... and he completely omitted mentioning the real issue. Which is him posting politics in a section where that's the one thing you are not allowed to do. And the fact that he has received more warnings about it than most users would get away with.

So here we are.

Oh, and you really shouldn't do these "open letters to Admin", especially on behalf of someone else. I know this makes you feel good about yourself, but most of the time you simply end up embarrassing the other user when you force me to bring such details into the open.

Things like that are better dealt with privately.

And now we have this: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-767330-3.html#13773825

Ava'sPapa wrote:
I just posted a post similar to this in "General Chit Chat" that will appear tomorrow.


So.... you want more people to see how Graham Thirkill.... for the lack of a better word... bent the truth (or completely lied about the situation, to be frank)...

Should I really run this in the digest tomorrow so even more users see it?

What we have is a situation where a user thinks the one rule we have in this section shouldn't apply to him because "everyone likes him so much". That's the gist of it, really...

How dare I enforce the one rule GCC section has against someone as awesome as Graham Thirkill? Right?

I mean, if the ownership changes let him know, as he said. LOL. But for now the rules stay in place. And there is a reason we have "no politics" rule. Those users who have been here long enough might remember what GCC was like back when I allowed politics to be posted in this section.

It was so bad, people refused to post in GCC at all because they didn't want to be associated with all the crap that was going on in the section.

So regardless of how much Graham Thirkill thinks of himself, I'm sorry to say but this rule will remain. And if he or any other user continues to post politics in GCC, their posting access to the section will be revoked. After a certain number of warnings, if they keep disregarding those warnings.

You want to post non-political jokes in GCC, that's fine. You want to post political jokes, do so in the Attic. I frankly don't see what's so unfair about that.

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Mar 4, 2023 19:12:31   #
srg
 
Admin wrote:
So.... you want more people to see how Graham Thirkill.... for the lack of a better word... bent the truth (or completely lied about the situation, to be frank)...

Should I really run this in the digest tomorrow so even more users see it?

What we have is a situation where a user thinks the one rule we have in this section shouldn't apply to him because "everyone likes him so much". That's the gist of it, really...

How dare I enforce the one rule GCC section has against someone as awesome as Graham Thirkill? Right?

I mean, if the ownership changes let him know, as he said. LOL. But for now the rules stay in place. And there is a reason we have "no politics" rule. Those users who have been here long enough might remember what GCC was like back when I allowed politics to be posted in this section.

It was so bad, people refused to post in GCC at all because they didn't want to be associated with all the crap that was going on in the section.

So regardless of how much Graham Thirkill of himself, I'm sorry to say but this rule will remain. And if he or any other user continues to post politics in GCC, their posting access to the section will be revoked. After a certain number of warnings, if they keep disregarding those warnings.

You want to post non-political jokes in GCC, that's fine. You want to post political jokes, do so in the Attic. I frankly don't see what's so unfair about that.
So.... you want more people to see how Graham Thir... (show quote)


Seems pretty reasonable actually.

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Mar 4, 2023 21:33:12   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
Admin wrote:
So.... you want more people to see ....

I am scratching my head over this one. I don't recall seeing politics in the posts. Only lewd humor among consenting adults.

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Mar 5, 2023 05:47:39   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
Admin wrote:
So.... you want more people to see how Graham Thirkill.... for the lack of a better word... bent the truth (or completely lied about the situation, to be frank)...

Should I really run this in the digest tomorrow so even more users see it?

What we have is a situation where a user thinks the one rule we have in this section shouldn't apply to him because "everyone likes him so much". That's the gist of it, really...

How dare I enforce the one rule GCC section has against someone as awesome as Graham Thirkill? Right?

I mean, if the ownership changes let him know, as he said. LOL. But for now the rules stay in place. And there is a reason we have "no politics" rule. Those users who have been here long enough might remember what GCC was like back when I allowed politics to be posted in this section.

It was so bad, people refused to post in GCC at all because they didn't want to be associated with all the crap that was going on in the section.

So regardless of how much Graham Thirkill thinks of himself, I'm sorry to say but this rule will remain. And if he or any other user continues to post politics in GCC, their posting access to the section will be revoked. After a certain number of warnings, if they keep disregarding those warnings.

You want to post non-political jokes in GCC, that's fine. You want to post political jokes, do so in the Attic. I frankly don't see what's so unfair about that.
So.... you want more people to see how Graham Thir... (show quote)


This is an open apology from me to the Admin. I'm afraid I got caught up in the hype and "mob" mentality yesterday concerning our friend Graham Thurkill. True, I (a lot of us actually) really enjoyed Graham's posts and felt his pain when he told us that he received "threats" from Admin. While we all assumed (at least I did) that he was being treated unfairly, he had been warned on five occasions by Admin to "cool it" with the political posts. And THAT is the real issue, not his jokes. So, as it turns out, I pursued this without knowing all of the facts. As much as I like and enjoy Graham, I'm afraid he must abide by the rules that have been set up, like everyone else. I guess it's plain to see why I spent 40 years in the USPS and not as a Defense Attorney. I didn't have any of Admin's facts when I went off half-cocked yesterday. I've cooled down and seen the error of my ways. I hope my fellow hoggers see that this really isn't Admin's fault as they warned Graham many times to no avail. Sorry to see you go Graham (I really am), but rules are rules. If you could curb the political banter and stick with your funny "stuff", you'd always be welcomed. "Cheers and Beers".

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Mar 5, 2023 21:05:52   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
I guess I missed the political comments. All I saw was the off color humor. If that’s the case, then you have my apology as well.

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Mar 5, 2023 21:23:10   #
lukevaliant Loc: gloucester city,n. j.
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
This is an open apology from me to the Admin. I'm afraid I got caught up in the hype and "mob" mentality yesterday concerning our friend Graham Thurkill. True, I (a lot of us actually) really enjoyed Graham's posts and felt his pain when he told us that he received "threats" from Admin. While we all assumed (at least I did) that he was being treated unfairly, he had been warned on five occasions by Admin to "cool it" with the political posts. And THAT is the real issue, not his jokes. So, as it turns out, I pursued this without knowing all of the facts. As much as I like and enjoy Graham, I'm afraid he must abide by the rules that have been set up, like everyone else. I guess it's plain to see why I spent 40 years in the USPS and not as a Defense Attorney. I didn't have any of Admin's facts when I went off half-cocked yesterday. I've cooled down and seen the error of my ways. I hope my fellow hoggers see that this really isn't Admin's fault as they warned Graham many times to no avail. Sorry to see you go Graham (I really am), but rules are rules. If you could curb the political banter and stick with your funny "stuff", you'd always be welcomed. "Cheers and Beers".
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you did what you had to do,and you went a step further by explaining actions taken.that shows integrity on your part!

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Mar 5, 2023 22:16:37   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
lukevaliant wrote:
you did what you had to do,and you went a step further by explaining actions taken.that shows integrity on your part!


Much appreciated lukevaliant, thank you.

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Mar 6, 2023 00:22:53   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
Much appreciated lukevaliant, thank you.


It's all good. I do wish Graham would come back and avoid edging into politics, religion, and blatant nasties. He had a lot of entertaining posts.

Admin has a tricky job, keeping things in line around here. Creating the Attic was a good idea for those who need to blow off random steam.

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