Rongnongno wrote:
I am kind of wondering why folks add the 'H' when giving their opinion.
Either you have an opinion or you do not. If you qualify it as 'humble' you weaken it, basically typing it isn't worth much.
Instead, use either IMO or IMOO. The later meaning is only your own, based on your own experience, and not related to anyone else's.
IMHO as 'Humble'? Phooey.
It’s for those with low self esteem, not sure of themselves??
Bunko.T wrote:
It’s for those with low self esteem, not sure of themselves??
Or just self-depricating.
Curmudgeon wrote:
Wow. Occasionally you post an acceptable photo, sometimes interesting or informative information. It seems, however, behind the good stuff you produce lurks a despicable troll just waiting to get out.
Funny, I have always considered you a troll. I rarely see you say anything positive to anyone unless something is going your way.
Simply because an opinion is expressed in order to show dissent, otherwise if one agrees there is nothing to say. This is the nature of an opinion. It is confrontational.
Adding 'humble' is a joke and not an expression of being polite. So in that aspect I am not polite. I am direct and being direct in the US, at least, it is impolite. Therefore, I am impolite by expressing an opinion that does not fit a 'social more' since I do not use 'qualifiers'.
Curmudgeon wrote:
Wow. Occasionally you post an acceptable photo, sometimes interesting or informative information. It seems, however, behind the good stuff you produce lurks a despicable troll just waiting to get out.
I'm with you Curmudgeon. What's the sense? Enough said here.
Rongnongno wrote:
Why do you feel the need to be polite when expressing an opinion?
I try to be polite no matter what I am doing. Would it be better if I were rude when expressing an opinion?
rplain1 wrote:
I try to be polite no matter what I am doing. Would it be better if I were rude when expressing an opinion?
If you offer an opinion that differs from your interlocutor, you become impolite, no matter what. A conflict is not solved with meekness. An honest exchange of ideas by-passes forms of politeness like 'humble'. One can express arguments w/o being rude - In real life -. On the net, as in a forum like this one, folks project their own weakness w/o realizing it.
If you look at curmudgeon post... He professes being polite and above the fray and calls me a troll as well as an incompetent photographer. There is nothing to be gained by being aggressive and dismissive. This is not having an opinion here, at all. It is simply having nothing to say or offer. Attacking the character of a person is ridiculous, it will never help in anything but create an unwanted conflict. Personally, I do not like this person because of his general attitude on the forum. I do not call on him, unless he provokes an incident, like in this thread.
As to how I see myself? As direct, something that is considered impolite, full of it, whatever you might want to think of. In real life? I am the same, direct. Because folks see my demeanor when speaking, they do not conclude that I am rash, aggressive, impolite or rude.
I created this thread only to express my opinion about the 'qualifiers' used when expressing an opinion. None make any sense. This of course is my opinion. I am not humble, typing it and exposing my interpretation. As such, you might consider it as abrasive rude...
Rongnongno wrote:
No opinion is humble. Either you have or you do not.
IMOO same as IMO? Not quite. IMO involves other folk's experience, even their opinions. IMOO means that the opinion is created from a very personal experience that cannot be shared.
Firstly, I am surprised that an Admin of a 'section' here would be so confrontational.
Second, while everyone is entitled to an O, you as well; IMO, your parsing of intent is correct. However, you take it one letter too far. You go to the 'O', when you should stop at the 'M'. "My' belongs to the individual--it does not indicate that they intended purposely or inadvertently to include anyone else's experiences or observations.
The addition of the 'H' does not change from whom the 'O' belongs.
So, in my 'O', just get over it and take if for what it is.....not your 'O', but someone else's. Either you agree or not.
And maybe others here will not be scared away by you in participating in the topic you administer. JMO.Oops.IMO.
Rongnongno wrote:
I am kind of wondering why folks add the 'H' when giving their opinion.
Either you have an opinion or you do not. If you qualify it as 'humble' you weaken it, basically typing it isn't worth much.
Instead, use either IMO or IMOO. The later meaning is only your own, based on your own experience, and not related to anyone else's.
IMHO as 'Humble'? Phooey.
YOU were never known as humble……IMHO
jbk224 wrote:
Firstly, I am surprised that an Admin of a 'section' here would be so confrontational.
Second, while everyone is entitled to an O, you as well; IMO, your parsing of intent is correct. However, you take it one letter too far. You go to the 'O', when you should stop at the 'M'. "My' belongs to the individual--it does not indicate that they intended purposely or inadvertently to include anyone else's experiences or observations.
The addition of the 'H' does not change from whom the 'O' belongs.
So, in my 'O', just get over it and take if for what it is.....not your 'O', but someone else's. Either you agree or not.
And maybe others here will not be scared away by you in participating in the topic you administer. JMO.Oops.IMO.
Firstly, I am surprised that an Admin of a 'sectio... (
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I am NOT an admin. I do now know where you get this from.I do monitor a few sections. I rarely intervene in them and certainly do not abuse the moderation side of these sections.
Rongnongno wrote:
I am NOT an admin. I do now know where you get this from.
I do monitor a few sections. I rarely intervene in them and certainly do not abuse the moderation side of these sections.
Excuse Me.
Potato-Patato.
Monitor-Administrater
I didn't call you a UHH Administrator. I said that your are the Admin for a section. Which you are..Monitor.
I didn't say you abuse anything.
But IMO, what you say elsewhere, may have an effect on how others may view your O's of their work.
You work too hard to help others. Don't throw it out the door with personal criticisms---IMHO.
Rongnongno wrote:
If you offer an opinion that differs from your interlocutor, you become impolite, no matter what. A conflict is not solved with meekness. An honest exchange of ideas by-passes forms of politeness like 'humble'. One can express arguments w/o being rude - In real life -. On the net, as in a forum like this one, folks project their own weakness w/o realizing it.
If you look at curmudgeon post... He professes being polite and above the fray and calls me a troll as well as an incompetent photographer. There is nothing to be gained by being aggressive and dismissive. This is not having an opinion here, at all. It is simply having nothing to say or offer. Attacking the character of a person is ridiculous, it will never help in anything but create an unwanted conflict. Personally, I do not like this person because of his general attitude on the forum. I do not call on him, unless he provokes an incident, like in this thread.
As to how I see myself? As direct, something that is considered impolite, full of it, whatever you might want to think of. In real life? I am the same, direct. Because folks see my demeanor when speaking, they do not conclude that I am rash, aggressive, impolite or rude.
I created this thread only to express my opinion about the 'qualifiers' used when expressing an opinion. None make any sense. This of course is my opinion. I am not humble, typing it and exposing my interpretation. As such, you might consider it as abrasive rude...
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Sooner or later one or the other will humble themselves about their opinion, unless you want all out conflict to break out.
jbk224 wrote:
I didn't call you a UHH Administrator. I said that you are the Admin for a section. .../...
OK, sorry.
Now, I stay away from criticizing folks work as a whole. I have no opinion on that. On the other hand, I will comment of folks images that are posted in the wrong section for clicks. There, I have no hold barred as long as it is about the capture, not the person.
I slammed curmudgeon today for a good reason, as explained earlier. When he posts in one of the sections I monitor, I stay away, even if I have a strong opinion about it. I basically avoid conflict with folks who have issues with me. I call that being polite and non-confrontational. Essentially, I do not react the same way when I am 'in charge' of something.
As to my image changing because I post something controversial? Quite honestly, it is of no concern of mine. Folks can and should think what they want.
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