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Jan 25, 2023 17:25:40   #
johnec Loc: Lancaster county, PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Very easy. When I did this, I don't recall doing the erasing step. I think the disk was wiped and the new iOS was installed. Okay, I see. "Erase" is for the newer Macs with the Apple chip. Mine is a 2012 Intel Mac.

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/erase-and-reinstall-macos-mh27903/mac#:~:text=Restart%20your%20Mac.,then%20follow%20the%20onscreen%20instructions.


Thanks.

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Jan 25, 2023 17:28:17   #
johnec Loc: Lancaster county, PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
In MacOS Ventura 13.2:

System Preferences > General > Transfer or Reset > Erase All Content and Settings. I boot into the recovery partition to reinstall MacOS.


Sorry that this is off topic, but...

How do you boot directly into Recovery Partition with Ventura? And then which disk do you erase?

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Jan 25, 2023 18:32:07   #
User ID
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, I have the lowly Air M1, 16GB and 512GB SSD. I'm always surprised at how small and light it is. I think 95% of people can get by just fine with any standard computer. Even if you're processing images, does four seconds or fourteen seconds make that much difference in your life?

Real world ? Yes ! Thaz over 3x, over and over and over unless/until it just freezes.

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Jan 25, 2023 18:47:16   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bret P wrote:
Indeed.
Macworld says the 512GB MacBook PRO SSD is also hobbled so if going for a Pro get 1TB.
512GB OK for the Air and Mini.


MaxTech channel on YouTube issued a video today where Max tore down a base, $2000 M2 14" MacBook Pro with 512GB SSD storage. It has just one memory module, instead of the M1 version's two 256GB modules. This means the SSD is not arranged in a RAID array, as were the M1's pair of SSD chips.

https://youtu.be/kaGGyXzBG2M

After the teardown, he tested the M1 and M2 models against each other and generally got the advertised improvements Apple mentioned in the online introduction. But there was no difference between the M1 and M2 when exporting images from Lightroom... So weigh that when buying.

The M2 has a faster clock speed, gets hotter, but because of the new core arrangement, gets better battery life. The fans run faster, but are still largely inaudible.

MaxTech is worth a watch, as they are testing a full DOZEN of the new machines, all configured differently.

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Jan 25, 2023 19:36:25   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
johnec wrote:
Sorry that this is off topic, but...

How do you boot directly into Recovery Partition with Ventura? And then which disk do you erase?


These sorts of answers can be found on Apple's Support web site — https://support.apple.com/mac . If you need further guidance, the tech support crew can walk you through it.

When I bought my M1, I tried to migrate my user profile from my iMac. It didn't work... the Air would not boot! I had too many conflicting bits of software flotsam and Jetsam, apparently.

I called Apple Support. The technician told me to reset the MacBook Air, then walked me through using the Recovery Partition to reinstall the OS from the web. Once I reinstalled all my apps, I copied my data from the iMac to a portable SSD and copied it over. It was the right way to do it, considering I had a number of apps on the old system that were incompatible with MacOS 11.x. The entire process took a couple of days, as I knew it would from decades of previous experience. I've learned to be patient and to do something else while things are loading.

I've been extremely happy with the new setup. I did have to update all my applications, and give up a few to switch to something else, but I expect that to happen every few years. I neither expect nor want to use a ten-year-old app on a new computer. I keep old computers (off network) for that!

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Jan 26, 2023 07:52:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
In MacOS Ventura 13.2:

System Preferences > General > Transfer or Reset > Erase All Content and Settings. I boot into the recovery partition to reinstall MacOS.

BE SURE you have your data backed up in two places before doing that. Also be sure you have ALL software serial numbers, license codes, activation codes, etc., along with all your account information (Apple ID, Adobe ID, Microsoft ID, whatever...).

If you need help, Apple Support is available at 800-275-2273. In my experience, they've been great.
In MacOS Ventura 13.2: br br System Preferences ... (show quote)


Just curious. I have a 2012 desktop which cannot use the latest iOS. If I went through this procedure, would it automatically install the correct iOS?

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Jan 26, 2023 09:49:43   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Just curious. I have a 2012 desktop which cannot use the latest iOS. If I went through this procedure, would it automatically install the correct iOS?


You can look up your model on Apple Support and find the latest operating system your computer will support. Apple does archive downloadable installers for most of them. Before you update, though, be sure all your apps run with at least that new version, or that you can update or upgrade the app to a version that will work.

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Jan 26, 2023 11:16:08   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
You can look up your model on Apple Support and find the latest operating system your computer will support. Apple does archive downloadable installers for most of them. Before you update, though, be sure all your apps run with at least that new version, or that you can update or upgrade the app to a version that will work.


I've seen YouTube channels that show you how to install newer systems than your machine should be able to use, but I have no reason to push it. Whatever I have now is fine. I wish Apple used numbers instead of names for their OS.

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Jan 26, 2023 11:32:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've seen YouTube channels that show you how to install newer systems than your machine should be able to use, but I have no reason to push it. Whatever I have now is fine. I wish Apple used numbers instead of names for their OS.


They do. Current version is 13.2. (Ventura). The Apple Menu About This Mac dialog box lists the version number and build number. A “build” can be different for certain machines.

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Jan 26, 2023 11:37:10   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
wrangler5 wrote:
I bought an M1 Mac Mini in 2021 when the late-2012 Intel Mac Mini that I ran a business with bricked. The transition was the typically painless Apple experience of clicking Yes when the new mini found the Time Machine from the old model.

BUT - I've seen more spinning beach balls with the M1 than I saw in 10 years of the Intel box.

The old one had 16GB of RAM and a 1TB fusion drive, and I can't say the new one (with 16GB of "RAM" and 1TB of SSD "disk" equivalent) seems any faster when doing the simple edits I run in Lightroom Classic even though I upgraded the external 1TB spinning disk that held the image files for the old one to a 1TB SSD for the M1 machine (using a USB-C cable.) Apart from the fact that the old mini was at the end of its OS upgrades, I wish it hadn't died. (A refurbished 16GB/1TB Intel mac mini from 2018, the last Intel mini model, was more expensive than the M1 mini, and would have taken longer to get - if I hadn't had to fill orders every day I would have given it more serious thought.)
I bought an M1 Mac Mini in 2021 when the late-2012... (show quote)

I think the software you use may be using Rosetta Stone to operate on the Apple silicon. That is a translation app which slows the operation of your M1 considerably. See if your software has an Apple silicon update.
Good luck

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Jan 26, 2023 12:21:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Toment wrote:
I think the software you use may be using Rosetta Stone to operate on the Apple silicon. That is a translation app which slows the operation of your M1 considerably. See if your software has an Apple silicon update.
Good luck


Many of the M1 early adopters found that the Rosetta 2 emulator was actually faster than all Intel Macs on single core x86 tasks. Overall, Rosetta mode is VERY smooth and more than adequately usable.

https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/15/m1-chip-emulating-x86-benchmark/

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/11/16/performance-of-rosetta-2-on-apple-m1/

Nearly all software applications worth buying have been updated to native Apple Silicon code. Some are new, "Apple Silicon-native ONLY" versions, while some are UNIVERSAL, meaning they also run on older Intel Macs.

Here are some very useful references:

https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-rosetta-2-mac/

https://isapplesiliconready.com (one of several online charts tracking app update statuses)

https://roaringapps.com/collections/list-of-apple-silicon-native-apps

UNIVERSAL apps can be set to run under Rosetta 2 emulation on Apple Silicon Macs, in case there are issues with Intel plug-ins, or other features that still require an Intel environment to run.

> Open your Applications folder, then find and right-click or Control-click on the application.

> Choose Get Info from the pop-up menu

> In the Information Dialog, check the box labeled "Open using Rosetta".

> To go back to the native version of the app, reverse the process (UNCHECK "Open using Rosetta"). In the example shown below, Lightroom is set to run in Native Apple Silicon mode.


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Jan 26, 2023 12:55:19   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
burkphoto wrote:
Many of the M1 early adopters found that the Rosetta 2 emulator was actually faster than all Intel Macs on single core x86 tasks. Overall, Rosetta mode is VERY smooth and more than adequately usable.

https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/15/m1-chip-emulating-x86-benchmark/

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/11/16/performance-of-rosetta-2-on-apple-m1/

Nearly all software applications worth buying have been updated to native Apple Silicon code. Some are new, "Apple Silicon-native ONLY" versions, while some are UNIVERSAL, meaning they also run on older Intel Macs.

Here are some very useful references:

https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-rosetta-2-mac/

https://isapplesiliconready.com (one of several online charts tracking app update statuses)

https://roaringapps.com/collections/list-of-apple-silicon-native-apps

UNIVERSAL apps can be set to run under Rosetta 2 emulation on Apple Silicon Macs, in case there are issues with Intel plug-ins, or other features that still require an Intel environment to run.

> Open your Applications folder, then find and right-click or Control-click on the application.

> Choose Get Info from the pop-up menu

> In the Information Dialog, check the box labeled "Open using Rosetta".

> To go back to the native version of the app, reverse the process (UNCHECK "Open using Rosetta"). In the example shown below, Lightroom is set to run in Native Apple Silicon mode.
Many of the M1 early adopters found that the Roset... (show quote)


Good info
Thanks

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Jan 26, 2023 16:44:59   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
burkphoto wrote:
You can look up your model on Apple Support and find the latest operating system your computer will support. Apple does archive downloadable installers for most of them. Before you update, though, be sure all your apps run with at least that new version, or that you can update or upgrade the app to a version that will work.


I think I got too much storage in my new Mac Studio system. Any downside to that other than initial cost?

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Jan 26, 2023 18:14:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I think I got too much storage in my new Mac Studio system. Any downside to that other than initial cost?


None! Just be sure you have equal or greater backup storage.

Apple charges a lot for internal SSD, but it is extremely fast. Thunderbolt 4 SSDs are usually not as fast. So if you need working space for large projects, internal is fastest. Backup can be conventional spinning platter drives.

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Jan 27, 2023 07:25:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I think I got too much storage in my new Mac Studio system.


It looks like you forgot the

Too much storage? That's like complaining about having too much money. Whatever you have, you'll appreciate it eventually. The more memory a Mac has, the less it has to do a swap and write to the SSD, which has a limited life.

Apple stores should have a sign: "Do Not Forget Memory"

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