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Jan 25, 2023 11:59:42   #
johnec Loc: Lancaster county, PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
You should probably back up your data and wipe the M1 clean. Reinstall MacOS (now Ventura 13.2), then reinstall all of your applications from original, up-to-date sources. Finally, reimport your data.


Just curious...what method do you use to wipe the M1 clean and reinstall MacOS? Thanks.

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Jan 25, 2023 12:17:07   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
burkphoto wrote:
16GB memory and 1TB storage is the sweet spot. Save 15% or so on the Apple Refurbished site.

Even a Mini or Air with these specs is shockingly swift for most people. But if you do 3D video graphics, edit 100MB images daily, or edit major TV shows or movies, get a high end model.

Base single core performance is the same on all M1 variants. Ditto within the M2 family. The higher level chips do have more graphics performance and better multi-core performance *for applications optimized for them*.

AVOID the very base models with 256GB storage. The I/O is slow on those. Get 512GB or more. The more memory and storage you have, the faster it runs and the longer the SSD will last.
16GB memory and 1TB storage is the sweet spot. Sav... (show quote)


Good advise, thanks for that. And I didn’t realize you could get as much as 15% on turning in the older machine. I will definitely check that out. And it sounds like the way to go is order it directly from Apple. I have never done that with my previous Macs. Appreciate your thoughts.

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Jan 25, 2023 12:23:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Schoee wrote:
Macintosh announced ….. I think the company is Apple


Hasn't Brian MacIntosh replaced Tim Cook?

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Jan 25, 2023 12:26:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
johnec wrote:
Just curious...what method do you use to wipe the M1 clean and reinstall MacOS? Thanks.


Very easy. When I did this, I don't recall doing the erasing step. I think the disk was wiped and the new iOS was installed. Okay, I see. "Erase" is for the newer Macs with the Apple chip. Mine is a 2012 Intel Mac.

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/erase-and-reinstall-macos-mh27903/mac#:~:text=Restart%20your%20Mac.,then%20follow%20the%20onscreen%20instructions.

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Jan 25, 2023 12:34:49   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
johnec wrote:
Just curious...what method do you use to wipe the M1 clean and reinstall MacOS? Thanks.


In MacOS Ventura 13.2:

System Preferences > General > Transfer or Reset > Erase All Content and Settings. I boot into the recovery partition to reinstall MacOS.

BE SURE you have your data backed up in two places before doing that. Also be sure you have ALL software serial numbers, license codes, activation codes, etc., along with all your account information (Apple ID, Adobe ID, Microsoft ID, whatever...).

If you need help, Apple Support is available at 800-275-2273. In my experience, they've been great.

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Jan 25, 2023 13:00:18   #
Hasslla
 
Recent article about M2 vs M1.

https://photographylife.com/how-to-buy-macbook-for-photography

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Jan 25, 2023 13:09:57   #
Tom Shelburne Loc: Roaring Gap NC
 
Bought Mac mini with 16 G Ram - works well with my BenQ monitor- cheaper than laptop-needed 16 G Ram to run LR CC newer masking features- Use my laptop for trips- Cost about $1100

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Jan 25, 2023 13:49:18   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Tom Shelburne wrote:
Bought Mac mini with 16 G Ram - works well with my BenQ monitor- cheaper than laptop-needed 16 G Ram to run LR CC newer masking features- Use my laptop for trips- Cost about $1100


That brings up a good point. The M2 Pro version of the Mini can support three external monitors. It has four Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports, plus an HDMI port that can drive an 8K display. It can be had with 10Gbps Ethernet, for super-fast data transfers.

It's going to be interesting to see what they release next...

I've been using an M1 MacBookAir (8CPU, 8GPU, 16NPU, 16GB memory, 1TB storage) since August, 2021. I bought it refurbished from Apple. It has "taken a licking and kept on ticking," as Timex used to advertise. It is quite sufficient to run Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom Classic, Final Cut Pro video editing, MS Office 365, and all the stock Apple Apps (most of which are worth using!).

The only time I got this fan-less laptop warm was when rendering an 867 GIGABYTE 4K video file of a slide show assembled in Final Cut.

I once tried running 47 applications at once, only to find that they ran well. There was a lot of swap memory active, and nearly 14GB of shared memory was in use (according to Activity Monitor). But the machine was still usable. For what I do, there are no significant limits, other than on-board storage. I have a hub with about 12GB of various drives attached, so I can keep the on-board SSD half empty.

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Jan 25, 2023 13:56:07   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
coolhanduke wrote:
Macintosh announced that the new line of Mactintosh computers housing the M2 chip.

If you are in need (and can afford) a high end computer to do post production, this is the Mac for you.

See more here.
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/?cid=CDM-US-DM-c00746-M00000


The Mac for me is the Mac STUDIO ULTRA!

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Jan 25, 2023 13:57:04   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, I have the lowly Air M1, 16GB and 512GB SSD. I'm always surprised at how small and light it is. I think 95% of people can get by just fine with any standard computer. Even if you're processing images, does four seconds or fourteen seconds make that much difference in your life?


It absolutely does, especially when I'm processing 8000+ images!

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Jan 25, 2023 14:04:55   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
That brings up a good point. The M2 Pro version of the Mini can support three external monitors. It has four Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports, plus an HDMI port that can drive an 8K display. It can be had with 10Gbps Ethernet, for super-fast data transfers.

It's going to be interesting to see what they release next...

I've been using an M1 MacBookAir (8CPU, 8GPU, 16NPU, 16GB memory, 1TB storage) since August, 2021. I bought it refurbished from Apple. It has "taken a licking and kept on ticking," as Timex used to advertise. It is quite sufficient to run Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom Classic, Final Cut Pro video editing, MS Office 365, and all the stock Apple Apps (most of which are worth using!).

The only time I got this fan-less laptop warm was when rendering an 867 GIGABYTE 4K video file of a slide show assembled in Final Cut.

I once tried running 47 applications at once, only to find that they ran well. There was a lot of swap memory active, and nearly 14GB of shared memory was in use (according to Activity Monitor). But the machine was still usable. For what I do, there are no significant limits, other than on-board storage. I have a hub with about 12GB of various drives attached, so I can keep the on-board SSD half empty.
That brings up a good point. The M2 Pro version of... (show quote)


The ONLY thing I keep on the internal SSD is the OS and the apps. I have about 600Gb of 1 TB available. Everything else is attached via TB3 or TB4.

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Jan 25, 2023 15:13:11   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cjc2 wrote:
The ONLY thing I keep on the internal SSD is the OS and the apps. I have about 600Gb of 1 TB available. Everything else is attached via TB3 or TB4.


If that is the case, you have a screaming fast system! For most everyday tasks, you wouldn't see a significant improvement from an upgrade.

I doubt you would see any worthwhile benefit to the new Macs at this point if you're running an M1 Ultra in a Mac Studio. It would be pointless to upgrade for another generation or two, even. If most of your imaging is for sub-11" x 14" print packages or web postings, you're almost certainly running an "overkill" system.

If I were rendering images for 60" by 40" archival prints at 360 PPI all day long, even then, I'd be set for years. An inkjet printer couldn't keep up with the computer. My M1 MacBook Air can render a 60x40 @ 360 PPI in about 8 to 12 seconds depending on bit depth and complexity.

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Jan 25, 2023 15:22:48   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
If that is the case, you have a screaming fast system! For most everyday tasks, you wouldn't see a significant improvement from an upgrade.

I doubt you would see any worthwhile benefit to the new Macs at this point if you're running an M1 Ultra in a Mac Studio. It would be pointless to upgrade for another generation or two, even. If most of your imaging is for sub-11" x 14" print packages or web postings, you're almost certainly running an "overkill" system.

If I were rendering images for 60" by 40" archival prints at 360 PPI all day long, even then, I'd be set for years. An inkjet printer couldn't keep up with the computer. My M1 MacBook Air can render a 60x40 @ 360 PPI in about 8 to 12 seconds depending on bit depth and complexity.
If that is the case, you have a screaming fast sys... (show quote)


I wouldn't expect I'd be looking to upgrade from the Studio for 5 years or so. I have outfitted it specifically to be fast!

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Jan 25, 2023 15:24:00   #
GEngel-usmc Loc: Spencerport NY - I miss Lakeland, FL
 
To pmsc: “…filthy rich…?”

iMac 24’s M1 Processors start at $1,299. Weighs less than 10 pounds. 😀 Even I can afford that on Soc. Security.

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Jan 25, 2023 16:44:16   #
Bret P Loc: California
 
Indeed.
Macworld says the 512GB MacBook PRO SSD is also hobbled so if going for a Pro get 1TB.
512GB OK for the Air and Mini.

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