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Jan 22, 2023 08:33:32   #
Tomfl101 Loc: Mount Airy, MD
 
Using a flash meter and understanding studio light ratios was essential in the film days since you had to wait a week to get color film processed, or a couple hours if self processing. Polaroid was useful as an instant check but not nearly as accurate as today’s digital review screens. Everything you need to know and/or adjust is right there on screen. My Minolta 4 has mostly been in a drawer for a dozen years. The few times I’ve used it I ended up tweaking the exposures with a few test shots anyway. So I finally stopped using it altogether.

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Jan 22, 2023 08:37:27   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
You know, I have several light meters in my camera collection. They were with old film cameras I have acquired. I haven't used an external light meter since digital took over. The last film camera I had also had a built in light meter. I am doing very little photography at present. I can't see any reason to use an external meter any more. Maybe professional photographers use them for studio work.

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Jan 22, 2023 08:54:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
flip1948 wrote:
That's the special 70th anniversary version. The standard version is $229.00.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/435535-REG/Sekonic_401_399_L_398A_Studio_Deluxe_III.html


Amazon has only one available, also Sekonic, for the same price.

https://smile.amazon.com/Sekonic-L-308X-U-Flashmate-Light-401-305/dp/B079YWCZNC/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1VCFXW6WVOQIC&keywords=light%2Bmeters&qid=1674395480&s=electronics&sprefix=light%2Bmeters%2Celectronics%2C74&sr=1-6&th=1

When I was a kid, I had a Sekonic Pet for my movie camera.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253745705626

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Jan 22, 2023 08:57:50   #
BebuLamar
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
For "Ripley's Believe it or not"---light meters now for $350. list $500.00?

Every photographer should have a light meter, for both reflected and incident readings. I have always used Weston meters as did Ansel Adams. I bought my first Weston in probably 1954 and Weston was already on version Weston Master II. I now have a number of them including Western Master, Master II and Master III. I find little difference. I also have the clamp on incident reading light cone that make Weston read both forms of light in high and low ranges, both incident and reflected ligh.

Tonight from B&H email advertisement most of you have also received.
----"Sekonic
L-398A Studio Deluxe 70th Anniversary Edition Light Meter
Save: $150.00 with “Coupon”
(Automatically applied in cart)

You Pay: $348.00

So----do you pay $348 or $150? Is list---$348 or $500?

Does that actually mean the list for a Sektonic--70th aniverary is $500.00--(or $350?)--?

What form of off camera metering does UHH membership use?-----
For "Ripley's Believe it or not"---light... (show quote)


Many have answered your question and here is mine which is about the same.

A $500 Light meter (or more accurately exposure meter) is the norm. It shouldn't go into Ripley's.
Yes it meant you paid $348 after the discount.
I use the built in meter or not at all if the camera I use doesn't have a meter.
I do have a Minolta Flashmeter III and a Flashmeter VI. I had the Minolta Spotmeter M before but when I bought the Flashmeter VI it has spot mode so I don't need the Spotmeter M any more.
I have the Weston Master II but I would never use it. It's not accurate.

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Jan 22, 2023 09:14:45   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
OldSchool wrote:

What form of off camera metering does UHH membership use?-----


I used one when I was high school. A handy little Gem. When I switched to a Canon EOS Rebel 2000, I used the metering in the viewfinder. When I bought a Canon 1v-HS I picked up a Sekonic TwinMate to keep to the rolls from ending in the garbage can.

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Jan 22, 2023 09:53:08   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Every photographer should have a light meter, for both reflected and incident readings.

That was a long time ago. No longer use film, save only digital raw files, don't do studio light work, no longer need an external meter. I gave my last hand meter (Minolta flash meter iv) away to a student over a decade ago.
OldSchool-WI wrote:
What form of off camera metering does UHH membership use?-----

The meter in the camera is fully adequate now. I only save digital raw files so I only need one specific meter reading. The highlight warning in each of my camera viewfinders functions as a highlight spot meter and confirms that I either do or do not have two or more clipped channels -- the only info I need and more precise than any hand meter could provide.

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Jan 22, 2023 09:54:11   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Well that solved that. $500 bucks for an exposure meter--------wow!-------------------

You insist on displaying your total lack of comprehension and rational thought.

From B&H:



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Jan 22, 2023 10:01:29   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
It is a good skill to understand how to use an incident lightmeter. Knowing the amount of light falling on a subject - rather than the light reflecting off a subject is valuable information for those who know how to use it. With it one can accurately adjust brightness values of key and fill lights, for example. Admittedly, for most of the photography most people do here, and with matrix metering, incident light measurement is less important than it used to be, but for studio lighting "recipes“ that are well established, an incident light meter is invaluable. They don't call it" Studio" frivolously...

That being said, I would not pay an extra $80 to have a gold ring around the photo disk and the word "Anniversary“ stamped on it somewhere.

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Jan 22, 2023 10:11:21   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Light Meters? "Maybe professional photographers use them for studio work..." This... Albeit might be more germane to substitute (Commercial) for (Professional). Commercial photography requires no professional license... Nor does it require academic credentials...

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Jan 22, 2023 10:17:29   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Ysarex wrote:
The highlight warning in each of my camera viewfinders functions as a highlight spot meter and confirms that I either do or do not have two or more clipped channels -- the only info I need and more precise than any hand meter could provide.

In most cameras the highlight warning doesn't appear until after you click the shutter.

If you have Zebra warnings with a Sony you can see them before you click the shutter. How much before the brightest raw channel is clipped can be adjusted by changing the Zebra setting. This also applies to the highlight warnings after the image is captured.

In most cameras I have tested, when they show up, the green channel is within 0.5 and 0.2 stops from the raw limit.

With a neutral target, the green channel clips about 1/3 stop before blue and 2/3 stop before red. You don't need two or more channels to clip.

It gets closer to the limit above base ISO.

The bottom line is that, if you see highlight warnings, you are probably too close to the raw limit.

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Jan 22, 2023 10:19:06   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
kymarto wrote:
It is a good skill to understand how to use an incident lightmeter. Knowing the amount of light falling on a subject - rather than the light reflecting off a subject is valuable information for those who know how to use it. With it one can accurately adjust brightness values of key and fill lights, for example. Admittedly, for most of the photography most people do here, and with matrix metering, incident light measurement is less important than it used to be, but for studio lighting "recipes“ that are well established, an incident light meter is invaluable. They don't call it" Studio" frivolously...

That being said, I would not pay an extra $80 to have a gold ring around the photo disk and the word "Anniversary“ stamped on it somewhere.
It is a good skill to understand how to use an inc... (show quote)

I did my time with studio lights years ago and we used a hand meter to set up and adjust the lights. But no matter how meticulously we worked with the meter, the last step was always to shoot a Polariod, look a the Polariod and then make the necessary adjustments. That Polariod film was a major studio expense especially since after the shoot the Polariods all went in the trash. The purpose of hand light meters was to save money on Polariod film. The savings on Polariod film would pay for the meter in a month or two -- use the meter to get close and save a couple Polariods pays for the meter.

We now have digital cameras in the studio that provide instant results at no cost. We no longer need Polariod film and we no longer need a light meter to save money on Polariod film.

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Jan 22, 2023 10:21:31   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
selmslie wrote:
In most cameras the highlight warning doesn't appear until after you click the shutter.

I have modern mirrorless cameras and the highlight warning shows up live before I take the photo. I know how to use them.

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Jan 22, 2023 10:24:23   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Ysarex wrote:
I have modern mirrorless cameras and the highlight warning shows up live before I take the photo.

They do on my Sony but not on my Nikon Z7 or Fuji X100T. I can also get them on my iPhone depending on the raw program I am using.

You need to do some research with RawDigger to find out when they show up.

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Jan 22, 2023 10:27:24   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Ysarex wrote:
We now have digital cameras in the studio that provide instant results at no cost. We no longer need Polariod film and we no longer need a light meter to save money on Polariod film.

Anyone using medium and large format film still needs a separate meter because the camera probably does not have one built in.

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Jan 22, 2023 10:29:02   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
selmslie wrote:
Anyone using medium and large format film still needs a separate meter because the camera probably does not have one built in.

That would be why I said, "we now have digital cameras in the studio....".

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