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Jan 19, 2023 00:45:22   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
I like it the way it is. It makes the birds eye pop.

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Jan 20, 2023 23:04:09   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
bcheary wrote:
Nice shot. Keep it as it is!


Thank you. Always looking for something "better".

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Jan 20, 2023 23:04:25   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Looks fine to me!!!


Thank you.

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Jan 20, 2023 23:04:57   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
Bayou wrote:
I often use vignette in this fashion. A subtle bit of vignette, little enough so that it's virtually unnoticeable, can really make a (centered) subject pop without editing the subject at all.


I probably don't use this technique often enough.

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Jan 20, 2023 23:07:14   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
UTMike wrote:
You have a very good result! I think that Steve Perry would be proud of your efforts. As he cautioned in the video, not every shot is suitable for his recommendations and you always have to struggle to avoid overdoing.


You are absolutely correct. Yes, I am guilty of using "cookie cutter" approaches where I try to do the same thing ot every image.
In my defense, I am usually shooting in dark environments often with my BGs close to my subjects so there is some reason to treat all the images similarly in PP.

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Jan 20, 2023 23:10:47   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
R.G. wrote:
As a general rule when subduing a BG it's a good idea to lead with subduing the highlights since they are the most eye-catching parts. Once that is done you'll probably want less of the other subduing adjustments. For my edit below I concentrated on reducing the contrast of the BG, but that needs to be done with caution since if you overdo it you could end up with a bland photo. As a general rule I prefer to err on the side of moderation and subtlety. You'll have your own preferences.

As well as reducing the highlights fully I also lifted the shadows a little since those two adjustments between them have the effect of reducing the overall contrast (as well as increasing the amount of visible detail - but not in an eye-catching way). I also used the Contrast slider for a further drop but it didn't need much. Other subduing adjustments included a little negative Clarity and negative Sharpening (going left with the sliders) plus generous amounts of denoise. All three of these adjustments have a softening effect. In this case only a very small amount of negative Saturation was needed (reducing the Contrast has a desaturating effect).

Other tweaks worth trying include using the Temp slider to give the BG a very slight blue tint (warm colours advance, cool colours retreat) plus using the HSL tool to subdue or enhance any problematic colours that aren't responding favourably to the global adjustments. Conversely, if you select the main subject/s you can give them a slight WB shift towards yellow (emphasis on the "slight"). Obviously whatever you do to subdue the BG you can do the opposite to emphasise the main subject/s.
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Absolutely. I approach many of images similarly. Let me ask you, do you usually do these manipulations in PS per se (ie, Adjustment Layers)? I have in the past but now with the masking tools so good in ACR I find my self doing most of my local adjustments there. When I open in PS it is usually just to remove distracting elements.

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Jan 20, 2023 23:11:39   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
flathead27ford wrote:
I like it the way it is. It makes the birds eye pop.


Thank you.

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Jan 20, 2023 23:12:15   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
joecichjr wrote:
I think it's superb the way it is πŸ’ŽπŸ’ŽπŸ’ŽπŸ’ŽπŸ’Ž


Thank you.

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Jan 20, 2023 23:12:32   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
JeffDavidson wrote:
Looks pretty good to me!


Thank you.

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Jan 20, 2023 23:14:44   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
Bubalola wrote:
IMHO, the lighting balance of the bird and its immediate background is very good. However, a large bright space on left side of the image diverts attention of a viewer from intended subject, the bird. But that’s just me, Baja!


Thank you. In the original image I brought down that "hot spot" significantly. That was a leaf in the BG that was highly reflective. This bird was in the periphery of a security light and there were some significant reflections above the bird. As people have manipulated the BG, that hot spot sometimes becomes "hotter".

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Jan 20, 2023 23:17:59   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
Retired CPO wrote:
I'm a big believer in leaving well enough alone!!! All this finagling of photos leaves me cold! The original photo (if that's what it is) is great. I wouldn't change a thing. This is from someone who uses only Picasa for post processing. And as little of that as I can get away with. To answer the question directly, No it's not too dark, it's perfect!


I can understand your feelings. No, the original image is not "SOOC". It has had some processing. I do try, as much as I can, to "get it right" in the camera, but that is not always possible. Sometimes it is simply the circumstances I find myself in at the time I pushed the shutter button, but sometimes it is operator error-me. In this image, dark bird against spackled BG presented some difficult conditions.

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Jan 21, 2023 03:08:18   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
bajadreamer wrote:
...Let me ask you, do you usually do these manipulations in PS per se (ie, Adjustment Layers)? ....


I do my selections the old-fashioned way in Lr6 - with an Adjustments brush. The latest versions of Lr have good AI selection tools (and lots of other yummy stuff) but so far I haven't given in to the pressure to take on an ongoing subscription. Doing selections manually is more work but for me it's not a deal-breaker and I'll probably stick to Lr6 for a while. I'm always on the lookout for things I can use as plug-ins to make up for Lr6's shortcomings.

It sounds like you know what you're doing, so ACR should serve you well for most things. Basic adjustments combined with good targeting and selecting capabilities make for good editing.

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