Ed48 Loc: Superior, Wisconsin

Sippy, you are the only person that I know that would come up with something like this (besides me). Do you think that we are related by someone way in our past? Happy Thanksgiving and eat some turkey, that will mean one less animal pooping
Ed48

rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines

They use the "data" they can make fit their wishes to achieve wealth and absolute control, and set up "scientific" programs which will produce their desired outcomes - which, of course, they have to keep changing as their dire forecasts don't prove to be true!!! And having virtually all the media either believing their lies or being a party to the ruse, the misguided populace falls for it, hook, line and sinker!!! It's all been in the works for years, but few have recognized it, and they have been castigated unmercifully. I'm really afraid it may be too late to recover from the accelerating downward spiral, especially given the results of the last couple of years - in ALL areas!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Loren, do you actually believe that NASA and NOAA and EPA and NCAR, etc are part of some vast conspiracy falsifying data? That’s just not possible, since the satellite streams of data I posted are downloaded unencrypted and anyone can look directly at the data off the “birds. I’ve sold the storage that acquires and stores that data to those agencies and the systems that process it. I’ve seen the data streams come down in real time directly to the earth stations receiving it. In fact, I download both APT and HRPT data directly from the polar orbiters as part of my radio/satellite hobby, and I KNOW the data is real.

I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one because my observation has been that people have made up their minds on both sides of this controversy, and are difficult to change, even when presented with the facts, but even the politicians that denied that climate change is occurring are being forced to recognize it.

Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio

Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio

I have a difficult time believing all the data you present about the low nature of CO2 in the atmosphere over the past million years. I've seen data to the contrary. I believe that there are large numbers of people who believe in CO2 driven climate change, but they are the ones whose grant money or careers depend on the "correct view". There are also large numbers of credible scientists who hold opposing views on CO2/climate change but since their opinions are well-known, they're never asked.

I suppose that you also believe that we have less than 10 years to do something decisive on climate or we're all doomed. The fate of the earth hangs in the balance. Ever wonder why there are never any positive effects of climate change, only negative? I wonder why you never answer my questions.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

All that generates a LOT of methane gas and CO2!

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

The data that I’ve published is from NOAA, NASA and EPA. If you’re unfamiliar with these agencies, their workers and scientists are paid a fixed salary based on a GS pay grade and the contractors are paid based on a contract. These agencies (and salaries) are paid by Federal funds, but the “grant getting” thing you’re referring to are typically university studies. Those people use data produced by NASA and NOAA, but the federal employees producing and analyzing the data are paid a straight salary.

As to how long we have to react, I don’t think there’s a “drop dead” schedule, but unless you disagree with the sea level and sea temperature data taken directly off NOAA bouys and historical records kept at NCDC and other repositories, it’s clear that sea levels are rising, so the coastal cities such as Miami and NYC will eventually have to take some defensive measures or lose some very valuable properties.

Finally, post some of the data you’ve seen AND the sources if you disagree with the data I’ve posted and if you believe NOAA and NASA are part of a conspiracy. Let’s see the data…

srg

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Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio

All of the federal agencies cited hire these people because of the views they hold. Basically, your position is trust your government to tell you the truth after so many of these same people and agencies have been found to do just the opposite. These same agencies were telling us to watch out for global cooling, then it was global warming, but since the "facts" vary, it's now climate change.

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

Yup, and New Zealand has a solution for farting cows! They're going to tax it out of existence. Another great idea!

Pretty soon we'll have a human flatulence tax...

bwa

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

The facts have not varied, although our predictions have as we gain a better understanding of this incredibly complex system we refer to as climate. A substantial percentage of the world’s fastest computers are dedicated to studying it, and as our understanding evolves, our predictions may evolve toward greater accuracy.

Since all of those agencies have been my customers for decades, and I actually know these people, I reject the unsubstantiated idea that they hire people with their own views. The people I’ve known at NOAA, NASA and the National labs are, from seeing them up close and working with them, hired based on their skill set. They aren’t interested in politics and conspiracies - they don’t have time, they’re just busy keeping the satellites running, the data flowing and the computers up. Again, if you can demonstrate any of this, post some evidence and the sources as I have, rather than making unsubstantiated claims.