D700 or D610?
Nov 21, 2022 10:08:16 #
Thomas902 wrote:
kb6kgx what are your client's needs? br No clients... (show quote)
I agree! I had a D610, two of them, and had to return both as they both had mechanical problems. I suggest a D500 new or used or a used d810 if you want full frame. My D700 was one of my best nikon bodies of all time, but it is too dated IMO to buy now.
Nov 21, 2022 11:53:59 #
A problem is defined by the "difference" between the need and the got. This is what I mean by that.
The price difference between a pre-owned Nikon D610 and a Nikon D810 is about $450. If you are set on spending the amount of a Nikon D610...what that really means is that you can buy the Nikon D180 for $450 which means that it becomes a $450 decision, not the full price decision.
I view this as "What will the $450 provide me and do I believe it to be worth $450?" Keep in mind, the decision was to buy the price of the D610 already.
Of course, this decision process is the same regardless of what two items we are considering. It's always the difference, not the total price once a decision is made to invest the basic amount regardless.
The Better half buys "Bunny Bread" and I like "Bakery Bread". She tells me, why do you want to spend $3.50 for that loaf of bread? To which I respond, "Dear, the Bunny bread that you want to buy is $3.00 so the bread that I want is only $0.50. "Don't you believe that I'm worth $0.50, Sweetie?" to which she says, "NO" which is why I eat Bunny Bread.
The price difference between a pre-owned Nikon D610 and a Nikon D810 is about $450. If you are set on spending the amount of a Nikon D610...what that really means is that you can buy the Nikon D180 for $450 which means that it becomes a $450 decision, not the full price decision.
I view this as "What will the $450 provide me and do I believe it to be worth $450?" Keep in mind, the decision was to buy the price of the D610 already.
Of course, this decision process is the same regardless of what two items we are considering. It's always the difference, not the total price once a decision is made to invest the basic amount regardless.
The Better half buys "Bunny Bread" and I like "Bakery Bread". She tells me, why do you want to spend $3.50 for that loaf of bread? To which I respond, "Dear, the Bunny bread that you want to buy is $3.00 so the bread that I want is only $0.50. "Don't you believe that I'm worth $0.50, Sweetie?" to which she says, "NO" which is why I eat Bunny Bread.
Nov 21, 2022 12:47:20 #
I shoot primarily with my D810, with a D700 as backup or with a different lens so I can quickly switch. Their ergonomics are similar, making it easier. The D810 has a higher resolution and better hardware than the D700, but I see no difference in image quality or quick autofocus including aircraft.
Nov 21, 2022 12:58:31 #
Nov 21, 2022 13:36:54 #
kb6kgx
Loc: Simi Valley, CA
Thomas902 wrote:
Now if you're only shooting JPEG's ignore everything I've shared here... buffer capacity isn't an issue with JPEG
Now that I realize the OP is shooting photojournalism then the Nikon D500 would be an excellent choice.
Amazing frame rate and awesome buffer... which is germane for the paradigm the OP is working in.
Now that I realize the OP is shooting photojournalism then the Nikon D500 would be an excellent choice.
Amazing frame rate and awesome buffer... which is germane for the paradigm the OP is working in.
Yes, photojournalism is my primary "thing" and I am leaning towards the D500 for its functional improvements over the D7200 which, itself, is no slouch.
As for "buffer capacity isn't an issue with JPEG"… on the D7200, not so bad. Can get quite a few in before it gets stuck in the mud. But, on the D7100? Slogs down after, maybe, FIVE shots.
Nov 21, 2022 13:38:45 #
Nov 21, 2022 15:34:48 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
The Better half buys "Bunny Bread" and I like "Bakery Bread". She tells me, why do you want to spend $3.50 for that loaf of bread? To which I respond, "Dear, the Bunny bread that you want to buy is $3.00 so the bread that I want is only $0.50. "Don't you believe that I'm worth $0.50, Sweetie?" to which she says, "NO" which is why I eat Bunny Bread.
Nov 21, 2022 23:34:24 #
kb6kgx wrote:
Yes, I know this has been asked before. I did sear... (show quote)
Upon reading your replies, I agree with Paul in this matter; You already have the means to get good images with the equipment you have (D7200) to the kind of photography you are doing.
Practically speaking, the only advantage you will get with a D500 over the D7200 is a faster frame rate.
(Do I hear gnashing teeth? LOL)
As for the D610, Image Quality wise, it is among the best there is. Moving subjects, forget it. Unless you are shooting only wild land turtles.
Kidding aside, the D610 is a weak choice for fast moving subjects, and it is somewhat on par if not better than the D700.
Both being full frame cameras, you may end up cropping a fair bit, losing a lot of pixels and definition, more so with the D700 which only has 12mp compared to a same shot with your D7200. .
I'd rather suggest taking lessons or understanding your equipment more than going for new tools.
Nevertheless, what scratches your itch is what matters. Do what pleases you.
Nov 21, 2022 23:46:25 #
kb6kgx
Loc: Simi Valley, CA
Wallen wrote:
Upon reading your replies, I agree with Paul in this matter; You already have the means to get good images with the equipment you have (D7200) to the kind of photography you are doing.
Practically speaking, the only advantage you will get with a D500 over the D7200 is a faster frame rate.
(Do I hear gnashing teeth? LOL)
I'd rather suggest taking lessons or understanding your equipment more than going for new tools.
Practically speaking, the only advantage you will get with a D500 over the D7200 is a faster frame rate.
(Do I hear gnashing teeth? LOL)
I'd rather suggest taking lessons or understanding your equipment more than going for new tools.
I HAVE been told that "crop sensor" cameras are better for subjects such as wildlife and aircraft that are generally further away and, if I read correctly elsewhere that because the pixels are closer together on the smaller sensor that a given image would be sharper than the same subject shot with a full-frame body.
As for "taking lessons", the only thing I need to get better at is shooting at night. Still not there, yet.
Regarding the D500 having the faster frame right, I'd have to agree. And I'll tell you why. I'm still a film guy at heart. That's how I came up. One shot at a time. No autofocus. No motor drive. Manual everything. Even with the camera set at "continuous", I still find myself pressing the shutter button just once. I did read that the D500 has a much improved AF system, though.
Nov 22, 2022 00:30:07 #
kb6kgx wrote:
I HAVE been told that "crop sensor" came... (show quote)
True, having better pixel density means more details and the smaller sensor also have a crop value, which is akin to pre-cropping. That is why they say a 600mm lens is like having a 900mm lens if it is used on a crop camera.
Night photography is as much about the gear as it is the technique. Cameras need light and if there is less of it, then you definitely need a camera with good low light performance or ways to make your own light. With low light conditions, technique can only go so far.
If it interest you, this is how I generally do my photography:
Thought process: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-750186-3.html#13389607
technique:https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-575239-1.html
Low light application:https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-580096-1.html
As for the D500 focus system, it is really faster as it shoot faster, 10fps vs the 7fps max for the D7200.
That AF running 7fps is no slouch either.
Nov 22, 2022 08:44:55 #
colt4x5
Loc: Central Connecticut
I once bought a D610 as a backup for my D850. Got rid of it promptly. It was second rate compared to my primary body. Had chronic trouble locking on to focus, even in decent indoor light. Got a D810 for backup. Very happy with that move.
Nov 22, 2022 08:49:04 #
One very important thing to consider is lens reach. You already have a number of FX lenses, so yes, they are well suited to an FX body. BUT!!! You are accustomed to using those FX lenses on a DX body. Were you to buy an FX body you'd find that all of those familiar lenses have much less reach than before, given the respective crop factors.
To compensate when shooting aircraft or any other far away objects, you'd find yourself using your longest lenses, or cropping more to "fill the frame" in post processing. If cropping more, you certainly want a higher resolution camera that puts more pixels on a given image. This speaks poorly of the 12mp D700, which is otherwise a marvelous camera. Kinda sounds like the best body for you might be the D7200, which gives you the maximum reach with your lenses, and puts a lot of crop worthy pixels on the frame. (irony)
To compensate when shooting aircraft or any other far away objects, you'd find yourself using your longest lenses, or cropping more to "fill the frame" in post processing. If cropping more, you certainly want a higher resolution camera that puts more pixels on a given image. This speaks poorly of the 12mp D700, which is otherwise a marvelous camera. Kinda sounds like the best body for you might be the D7200, which gives you the maximum reach with your lenses, and puts a lot of crop worthy pixels on the frame. (irony)
Nov 22, 2022 15:02:04 #
Carl1024
Loc: Kaneohe, HI 96744
R.G. wrote:
The individual pixels in the D700 sensor are twice as big as those in the D610 sensor but the sensors are the same size. However, the D610 sensor is more recent and is less "noisy". As a general rule the more recent camera is usually the one to go for.
I still have my D700 strong ever?
Nov 22, 2022 21:59:03 #
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