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Nov 11, 2022 10:09:36   #
Shel B
 
Thanks for all the suggestions. I think Grey Ghost has the best option. Most of my images are from Japan and Europe...taken during my military career. I sorted for several hours yesterday and culled probably 90%...I mean, they were ok photos but not worth the effort or expense. I think I will post a shot in the photo gallery of one of the images made from a 35mm slide using a slide copier and macro lens. Thanks again for all the suggestions.

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Nov 11, 2022 10:10:27   #
Shel B
 
Thanks.

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Nov 11, 2022 10:39:59   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
gvarner wrote:
What resolution do you scan at?


As high as it will go.

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Nov 11, 2022 10:51:53   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
gvarner wrote:
What resolution do you scan at?


If you use an Epson V600, realize that the EFFECTIVE resolution usually tops out somewhere around 1800 dpi. (equivalent to an 1800 PPI file, if scanning the original at actual size). So setting resolution to 2400 is as far as I ever went with mine when I had it. You can use higher settings, such as 9600, but they just enlarge the canvas without supplying any additional detail. It's much faster to resize a 2400 dpi full frame file in software than it is to scan a 9600 dpi file at the scanner.

Better ACTUAL resolution requires a scanner that can actually be focused on the grain or dye cloud in the emulsion of the film. Most of the flatbeds don't have that feature.

You need to use 2400 dpi for scanning a 35mm original, if you want 8x to 10x prints. 1200 dpi is okay for the larger of the 120 formats (6x7 and 6x9).

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Nov 11, 2022 10:57:57   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
If you use an Epson V600, realize that the EFFECTIVE resolution usually tops out somewhere around 1800 dpi. (equivalent to an 1800 PPI file, if scanning the original at actual size). So setting resolution to 2400 is as far as I ever went with mine when I had it. You can use higher settings, such as 9600, but they just enlarge the canvas without supplying any additional detail. It's much faster to resize a 2400 dpi full frame file in software than it is to scan a 9600 dpi file at the scanner.

Better ACTUAL resolution requires a scanner that can actually be focused on the grain or dye cloud in the emulsion of the film. Most of the flatbeds don't have that feature.

You need to use 2400 dpi for scanning a 35mm original, if you want 8x to 10x prints. 1200 dpi is okay for the larger of the 120 formats (6x7 and 6x9).
If you use an Epson V600, realize that the EFFECTI... (show quote)


I use 2400 dpi for black and white 35mm and 3200 dpi for color negatives and slides. Anything higher is a waste of time and produces very large files.

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Nov 11, 2022 11:18:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
therwol wrote:
I use 2400 dpi for black and white 35mm and 3200 dpi for color negatives and slides. Anything higher is a waste of time and produces very large files.


I remember learning that doubling the resolution takes four times longer to scan... That's when I decided to use the camera to "scan" more than a handful of originals. I can scan an uncut roll of 35mm or 120 to raw in about five minutes. Conversion, cropping, cleanup, and adjustment in Lightroom Classic takes longer, but for the resolution, it's less overall time and hassle. (But I'm picky.)

Where I used to work, I ran a scanning lab from 2000 to 2005. We had nine $50,000 Kodak Bremson HR500 and HR500 Plus scanners. They were fast, high resolution, high volume devices. We scanned portrait film (Kodak Portra 160NC back then) 20 hours a day, six days a week in the Fall, running four-day shifts of ten hours each, with workers on staggered weeks. A 2000x3000 pixel image took about 4 seconds to scan from 645 format 120, or 46mm long roll, or split-70mm long roll film. I scanned about 30 of my Kodachrome slides to 4500x3000 pixels, on an HR500 Plus, which had Digital ICE, once. THOSE were gorgeous scans! (If you scanned emulsion side towards the sensor bar, ICE worked to remove dust spots from that side of the film.)

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Nov 11, 2022 19:19:58   #
Jersey guy Loc: New Joisey
 
I used this technique before I ever learned that it was possible. I bought an artist's light box for tracing drawings, two 8x10 sheets of Lexan from Home Depot, and a couple of pieces of foam to lift the sheets off the light box which had multiple LED sources that would have shown in the end product. Handheld the camera (maybe not the best approach but clicking off a few shots gave me a "keeper). This was on 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 negs from my father's 1930-40 output from his Graflex. Results are as good as I would want. All B&W so color is not an issue.

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Nov 12, 2022 10:56:27   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Shel B wrote:
This old dog is trying to learn some new tricks. It's cold here in the Lost River Valley of Central Idaho...so... my wife dumped boxes and boxes of old slides and negatives in my lap and told me to do something with them. I'm talking a few thousand images taken from 1970-1990. There are 35mm slides, 35mm negatives, 120 transparencies and negs, 645 slides and negs, and a few 4x5 transparencies and negs. I guess you know what the question is. How can I convert these to digital? Can I scan them? Do today's scanners produce good enough resolution to print, say 20x24 inch prints? I have copied quite a few of the 35mm slides using a macro lens and slide copier. It's mostly the larger transparencies and negatives that I don't know how to deal with. I need advice.
This old dog is trying to learn some new tricks. ... (show quote)


henryp is correct. And flatbed scanners can do 35mm slides and negatives and up to 8x10 negatives. Any of the scanned images should be capable of 20x24 prints.

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Nov 12, 2022 11:00:51   #
fosis Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
My Epson V600 goes to 9600 but I believe that above 2400 it "interpolates" the data rather than actually resolving up to that detailed level. I scan at 2400 which was the best resolution until it seemed to "top out" above that.
Use the tools that tune the scanning curve to ensure best exposure and range of values from black to white.
The lid on this scanner has a light source that will cover 2 1/4" wide, and I've occasionally scanned a 4x5" negative in two positions and digitally blended the images into one file.

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Nov 12, 2022 12:46:22   #
ABJanes Loc: Jersey Boy now Virginia
 
Shel B wrote:
This old dog is trying to learn some new tricks. It's cold here in the Lost River Valley of Central Idaho...so... my wife dumped boxes and boxes of old slides and negatives in my lap and told me to do something with them. I'm talking a few thousand images taken from 1970-1990. There are 35mm slides, 35mm negatives, 120 transparencies and negs, 645 slides and negs, and a few 4x5 transparencies and negs. I guess you know what the question is. How can I convert these to digital? Can I scan them? Do today's scanners produce good enough resolution to print, say 20x24 inch prints? I have copied quite a few of the 35mm slides using a macro lens and slide copier. It's mostly the larger transparencies and negatives that I don't know how to deal with. I need advice.
This old dog is trying to learn some new tricks. ... (show quote)


Fotobridge & others......

I think it is best to let someone who does it full time do the work.

Instead, go for some hikes, maybe a trip with the time and angst you have avoided.

Seems crazy to purchase equipment for a one time project.

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Nov 12, 2022 12:57:32   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
ABJanes wrote:
Fotobridge & others........Seems crazy to purchase equipment for a one time project.


It is my experience that whenever you get a new tool you find lots of things to do with it that you never considered before.

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Nov 12, 2022 14:11:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
It is my experience that whenever you get a new tool you find lots of things to do with it that you never considered before.


One thing does tend to lead to another. Creative minds will pervert the original intended use of most tools, to do the unexpected.

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Nov 12, 2022 14:19:11   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
I went through this a while back. Researched the heck out of it. I decided to use a service called Digmypics. They send you a box, throw all of your slides and movies in it, ship it to them, then very shortly thereafter, they post to your private portal your images and movie. You decide which you want and they send you back digitized images and you original analog film.

Saves so much time. Knowing my attention span and how many I had to scan, this was the best solution. Never would have been able to finish the project.

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Nov 12, 2022 17:43:37   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
burkphoto wrote:
One thing does tend to lead to another. Creative minds will pervert the original intended use of most tools, to do the unexpected.


Actually, that's pretty close to the original way I came across the saying:

'Whenever you get a new tool you will find uses for it that it was never designed for'.

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Nov 12, 2022 19:10:43   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Shel B wrote:
This old dog is trying to learn some new tricks. It's cold here in the Lost River Valley of Central Idaho...so... my wife dumped boxes and boxes of old slides and negatives in my lap and told me to do something with them. I'm talking a few thousand images taken from 1970-1990. There are 35mm slides, 35mm negatives, 120 transparencies and negs, 645 slides and negs, and a few 4x5 transparencies and negs. I guess you know what the question is. How can I convert these to digital? Can I scan them? Do today's scanners produce good enough resolution to print, say 20x24 inch prints? I have copied quite a few of the 35mm slides using a macro lens and slide copier. It's mostly the larger transparencies and negatives that I don't know how to deal with. I need advice.
This old dog is trying to learn some new tricks. ... (show quote)


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As far as I know there is only one good flatbed scanner for your sheetfilm. And that is the Epson V700 series--(V700 or V750) But you need all the negative holders---all quite expensive. I have one for my large negatives above 35mm sizes. This scanner will go to 8x10 in double scanning. Get a book on high res archive scanning, also. You obviously have your "winter's work" cut out for you? But that is the only way ----i.e. for the artist to do his own scanning.--------------ew

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