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Nov 3, 2022 22:50:31   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
I will re-quote a comment I found on UHH a while ago:

"The best camera is the one you have with you"

Being in the right place @ the right time probably trumps just about EVERYTHING if you have ANY sort of camera with you.

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Nov 3, 2022 23:02:40   #
gwilliams6
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Your the site's prime example of the truths I mirror back to the community. Really, you now claim to be that clueless to your own thinking as evidenced in every repeated post?

NEW Nikon 600mm TC Z-Series First Look Field Review by Steve Perry! Is this lens on your gear wish list?

As a longtime pro I use top quality nano-coated B+W and K&F filters, CPL, VND and CPL/VND.

With the greater pixel density, greater resolution and detail of any high-megapixel camera, it will show more noise at high ISO. Just physics.

My current Sony mirrorless bodies A1, A7RIV, A7SIII, and my current 13 E-mount lenses covering 10mm to 600mm ...

I could go on, but you've proven my point exactly, just from page-1 of your posting history. If you didn't believe best equipment matters most, you're due for some serious self-examination. Start here at your posting history: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user-post-list?usernum=77698

(While you look back at your performance as a UHH community, note too the frequency of image litter on other people's topics.)
Your the site's prime example of the truths I mirr... (show quote)


You know nothing about all the gear I own, and all the gear I use with my hundreds of university Photography students. I also have personal entry-level gear including a 12mp Sony which I use all the time.
And my students use entry-level gear kits that I have picked out from Nikon, Canon ,Fuji and Sony and my state university purchases on my orders, to have for these students to use. And they learn to use them fully and make excellent shots and videos with them, and their smartphones too.

My client needs and my personal needs can be very different and i use the appropriate gear for each purpose. And I wont always travel with my most expensive top pro gear , and that doesn't stop me from making great shots.

You are totally unable to take any criticism to your twisted mindset ,so you search frantically for any quote, taken out of context, to prove your superior points over anyone who disagrees with some of your silly pronouncements.

You could only exist and thrive here in UHH. No other online photography forums would tolerate your rants and attacks on other forum members. You would not last a week as a member of the several worldwide Photography Facebook groups I administrate and moderate. Most of your rants would break group rules and you would be warned to clean up your act or be bounced.

You love the sound of your voice here in UHH, even when it is spewing nonsense and vitriol, and you try way too hard to look like the only smart or experienced person here in UHH . Sorry, but you aren't. LOL, LOL

And I really dont care at all if you appreciate the photos I post on different topics. Other UHHers do appreciate and thank me for the shots I post to illustrate and understand the topics. I dont post any of my shots for your consumption, never have, never will. LOL

I wont continue this discussion with you any further, have the last word with another of your rants if that will make you happy.

You are best left ignored and irrelevant. .

Cheers

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Nov 3, 2022 23:52:12   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I absolutely think the opinion of someone who has used a product is very helpful.


IMHO, it would depend on the person being asked.
You make a good point, had it been it you who was asked.

But there are others.
Generally, owners believe what they bought is the best there is, whatever it may be.
There are those who buy things but seldom/never use them and still, if asked, would put the matter in a pedestal.
On the other hand, there are also those that think only the latest gadget is the best there is. With that in mind, some people are so wanting to be the "in-crowd" that they would jump to this new is better thing even if they had not used one nor done any research.
Online, many are paid/supported reviewers, so their information is only as good as the companies' advertisements, which for the most part is a lie.
Then we have the proud, the trolls and those that find happiness in giving misery.
Very few individuals would actually answer or give information without bias.
Fewer still are those who put themselves in the shoes of the person asking, and willing to guide accordingly.

Just my opinion, the best way to know a product is to borrow or rent one for at least a week. Because every individual may have their own needs or quirks to fulfill, and the direct experience gives the best data to decide on. Especially if there is someone knowledgeable to guide them through.

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Nov 4, 2022 00:04:32   #
Rick from NY Loc: Sarasota FL
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
You know nothing about all the gear I own, and all the gear I use with my hundreds of university Photography students. I also have personal entry-level gear including a 12mp Sony which I use all the time.
And my students use entry-level gear kits that I have picked out from Nikon, Canon ,Fuji and Sony and my state university purchases on my orders, to have for these students to use. And they learn to use them fully and make excellent shots and videos with them, and their smartphones too.

My client needs and my personal needs can be very different and i use the appropriate gear for each purpose. And I wont always travel with my most expensive top pro gear , and that doesn't stop me from making great shots.

You are totally unable to take any criticism to your twisted mindset ,so you search frantically for any quote, taken out of context, to prove your superior points over anyone who disagrees with some of your silly pronouncements.

You could only exist and thrive here in UHH. No other online photography forums would tolerate your rants and attacks on other forum members. You would not last a week as a member of the several worldwide Photography Facebook groups I administrate and moderate. Most of your rants would break group rules and you would be warned to clean up your act or be bounced.

You love the sound of your voice here in UHH, even when it is spewing nonsense and vitriol, and you try way too hard to look like the only smart or experienced person here in UHH . Sorry, but you aren't. LOL, LOL

And I really dont care at all if you appreciate the photos I post on different topics. Other UHHers do appreciate and thank me for the shots I post to illustrate and understand the topics. I dont post any of my shots for your consumption, never have, never will. LOL

I wont continue this discussion with you any further, have the last word with another of your rants if that will make you happy.

You are best left ignored and irrelevant. .

Cheers
You know nothing about all the gear I own, and all... (show quote)


Just a suggestion. The guy you are speaking to with your well intended and well thought out comments gets his jollies trolling us on the forum. Trying to speak directly to him with logic is a waste of time. He doesn’t care how reasonable you sound - he gets off on getting under our skins. I’ll call him out when says something particularly stupid, but trying to reason with him won’t work. He has posted 31,000 times on uhh. Think about that. Who can post 31,000 times.

You deal with little men trying to be big men by calling them out on egregious comments, but engaging with them directly is like spitting into the wind. Needling a bunch of like minded folks on a photo forum is what he lives for. All 31,000 times.

Sad case who just doesn’t get it.

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Nov 4, 2022 00:25:21   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Ask yourselves WHY these kinds of questions bring on long, protracted, oftentimes ridiculous off-topic threads- clickbait, or whatever? Perhaps too much o "philosophy, over-analysis, and redundancy? Fols loss of the original questions and begin to criticize each other's personality. That is not good or helpful.

Perhas it is best explained by the old "joke". The newborn baby was crying all night depriving the parent of any sleep for over a week. Grandma who lived next -door finally deced it intervene. She came in and found the parent reading a book on "child care" while the baby whaled athe top of her lungs! Grand said, "put down the book and pick up the baby"- the baby stopped crying and fell asleep!

My solution is "to put down the books ( "turn off the computer"it's 2022) and pick up the camera and take pictures. Then turn the computer back on, post the pictures and have a meaningful discussion about the PICTURES and the related equipment and techniques and stop psychoanalyzing each other.

Why do folks get o so obnoxious online? If you wantot a camera club meeting a professional association event, any social function, a local bar, or a popular eating place, would you not avoid the folks who are caustic, and sarcastic and tend to be insulting and socialize with the folks who engage in sincere conversations? If not, I would assume you enjoy bar fights. Too bad forums don't employ bouncers!
Ask yourselves WHY these kinds of questions bring ... (show quote)



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Nov 4, 2022 00:29:45   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
jerryc41 wrote:
People occasionally ask me about whether or not they should buy something. I never give them a definite yes or no. If I own that item, I tell them about my experience with it. Otherwise, I will either do a search and tell them what I found, or I will tell them to try Google.

Personal opinions are just that - opinions. I hate to see people asking for advice only from members who actually have that particular item. I have lots of "items," and I like all of them. That doesn't mean they are the best possible choice for everyone. People make their living reviewing things on YouTube and in print. They will buy half a dozen items and compare them in detail. I would trust a review like that more than my neighbor saying, "Yeah, this is great." Of course, there's nothing wrong with asking owners their opinions of a certain product. Reviewers have a product for a few weeks, while owners have them for years, and that could make a difference.

Looking for comparisons is also a good way to find what's best for you. Not everyone is looking for the same features. I don't care about high frames-per-second, but for some people, that's essential. Seeing two items compared, as opposed to a straight review, is a good way to see the differences between them.

I don't believe that the majority of reviewers are paid by companies to give their products good reviews. That would be too obvious. If you read half a dozen reviews and comparisons, you will get an overall feel for a product. If five reviewers hate it, but one loves it, you can discount that one. If you make it a habit to read reviews by the same people, over time you will get to know how these people review. Some think every product they review is the best ever, while others find nothing but faults. It pays to know your source.

Good luck, and spend your money wisely.
People occasionally ask me about whether or not th... (show quote)


_______________________(reply to Jerry)

Ballony-------All my cameras have poor reviews since I don't buy Nikon or Canon. Obviously those reviewers are on the dole---in D-Photography. Check out the cameras yourself. And as has been said in the thread---look for the features you use. If the reviewer says the lens is soft, the AF focus doesn't work or the colors are atrocious----DEFINITELY take heed and don't buy. But reviewers are more subtle than that. You can look all over and they might say something about a slight aberration or chromatic this or that which might come with odd focal lengths. Listen if they say you can never get a sharp picture. But who will say that on a high end camera?

My first camera I bought with my own money and research was in January 1954, when I was just about to turn twelve. I bought it from a NY camera store advertising in Popular Photography. A German 35mm with a Schneider F:2.8 lens, double exp. prevention, self time and sync for flash. Extremely small and light weight. Consuver Research PANNED IT. They said if you dropped it --it was finished. Well I use that camera today and have all my life--and have not bounced it off the pavements.

D-Photo panned the Sigma FoveonX3 DSLRs---all of them and Google pulls up the same single review to this day. That finished off the line of wonderful cameras because too many people believe reviews. It as more subtle than just negativity as the reviewer did say the FoveonX3 sensors produce stunning color---but then he goes into comparisons with ISOs and all sort of things which the Bayer cameras do to adjust the images in a fake way. The foveons are meant to shoot raw and as realistic AS FILM. And they broaden the ISO range from one model to the next. I have found the features excellent and the AF "spot on."

No----don't be swayed by reviewers---you bet the reviewers are not buying those cameras they review.
----------------------ew

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Nov 4, 2022 00:36:13   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Rick from NY wrote:
Just a suggestion. The guy you are speaking to with your well intended and well thought out comments gets his jollies trolling us on the forum. Trying to speak directly to him with logic is a waste of time. He doesn’t care how reasonable you sound - he gets off on getting under our skins. I’ll call him out when says something particularly stupid, but trying to reason with him won’t work. He has posted 31,000 times on uhh. Think about that. Who can post 31,000 times.

You deal with little men trying to be big men by calling them out on egregious comments, but engaging with them directly is like spitting into the wind. Needling a bunch of like minded folks on a photo forum is what he lives for. All 31,000 times.

Sad case who just doesn’t get it.
Just a suggestion. The guy you are speaking to wi... (show quote)



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Nov 4, 2022 00:40:33   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Wallen wrote:
IMHO, it would depend on the person being asked.
You make a good point, had it been it you who was asked.

But there are others.
Generally, owners believe what they bought is the best there is, whatever it may be.
There are those who buy things but seldom/never use them and still, if asked, would put the matter in a pedestal.
On the other hand, there are also those that think only the latest gadget is the best there is. With that in mind, some people are so wanting to be the "in-crowd" that they would jump to this new is better thing even if they had not used one nor done any research.
Online, many are paid/supported reviewers, so their information is only as good as the companies' advertisements, which for the most part is a lie.
Then we have the proud, the trolls and those that find happiness in giving misery.
Very few individuals would actually answer or give information without bias.
Fewer still are those who put themselves in the shoes of the person asking, and willing to guide accordingly.

Just my opinion, the best way to know a product is to borrow or rent one for at least a week. Because every individual may have their own needs or quirks to fulfill, and the direct experience gives the best data to decide on. Especially if there is someone knowledgeable to guide them through.
IMHO, it would depend on the person being asked. ... (show quote)


I totally agree.

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Nov 4, 2022 00:41:05   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
jerryc41 wrote:
People occasionally ask me about whether or not they should buy something. I never give them a definite yes or no. If I own that item, I tell them about my experience with it. Otherwise, I will either do a search and tell them what I found, or I will tell them to try Google.

Personal opinions are just that - opinions. I hate to see people asking for advice only from members who actually have that particular item. I have lots of "items," and I like all of them. That doesn't mean they are the best possible choice for everyone. People make their living reviewing things on YouTube and in print. They will buy half a dozen items and compare them in detail. I would trust a review like that more than my neighbor saying, "Yeah, this is great." Of course, there's nothing wrong with asking owners their opinions of a certain product. Reviewers have a product for a few weeks, while owners have them for years, and that could make a difference.

Looking for comparisons is also a good way to find what's best for you. Not everyone is looking for the same features. I don't care about high frames-per-second, but for some people, that's essential. Seeing two items compared, as opposed to a straight review, is a good way to see the differences between them.

I don't believe that the majority of reviewers are paid by companies to give their products good reviews. That would be too obvious. If you read half a dozen reviews and comparisons, you will get an overall feel for a product. If five reviewers hate it, but one loves it, you can discount that one. If you make it a habit to read reviews by the same people, over time you will get to know how these people review. Some think every product they review is the best ever, while others find nothing but faults. It pays to know your source.

Good luck, and spend your money wisely.
People occasionally ask me about whether or not th... (show quote)


IMHO, No one would know what someone needs but the person themselves, so the better way to know and choose is to rent something for a week and see if it fulfills one's requirements. There is no best camera or any gear for that matter. There is only the right tool for the job, and the right tool (or tools) is anything that works, especially those without the "ifs" & "buts".

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Nov 4, 2022 01:12:59   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Luck is the by-product having the best equipment.


I always found that the harder I worked, the luckier I got.

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Nov 4, 2022 05:10:48   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
You know nothing about all the gear I own, and all the gear I use with my hundreds of university Photography students. I also have personal entry-level gear including a 12mp Sony which I use all the time.
And my students use entry-level gear kits that I have picked out from Nikon, Canon ,Fuji and Sony and my state university purchases on my orders, to have for these students to use. And they learn to use them fully and make excellent shots and videos with them, and their smartphones too.

My client needs and my personal needs can be very different and i use the appropriate gear for each purpose. And I wont always travel with my most expensive top pro gear , and that doesn't stop me from making great shots.

You are totally unable to take any criticism to your twisted mindset ,so you search frantically for any quote, taken out of context, to prove your superior points over anyone who disagrees with some of your silly pronouncements.

You could only exist and thrive here in UHH. No other online photography forums would tolerate your rants and attacks on other forum members. You would not last a week as a member of the several worldwide Photography Facebook groups I administrate and moderate. Most of your rants would break group rules and you would be warned to clean up your act or be bounced.

You love the sound of your voice here in UHH, even when it is spewing nonsense and vitriol, and you try way too hard to look like the only smart or experienced person here in UHH . Sorry, but you aren't. LOL, LOL

And I really dont care at all if you appreciate the photos I post on different topics. Other UHHers do appreciate and thank me for the shots I post to illustrate and understand the topics. I dont post any of my shots for your consumption, never have, never will. LOL

I wont continue this discussion with you any further, have the last word with another of your rants if that will make you happy.

You are best left ignored and irrelevant. .

Cheers
You know nothing about all the gear I own, and all... (show quote)



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Nov 4, 2022 05:29:11   #
Capn_Dave
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Like I said in earlier responses, just pick any random day and read the Q&A in the main section. The best equipment matters most to most participants, even those who claim otherwise. We just have to look closer at their day to day writings to see their true feelings on the matter. Such as a casual scroll of your equipment and discussion contributions ....


I tell the people attending my workshops, "The best camera in the world, is the one you have with you."

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Nov 4, 2022 06:35:27   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
How do you know you're not a successful photographer until you've used the best cameras?


Only the fragile feel that it is the equipment, not themselves.

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Nov 4, 2022 06:40:39   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Capn_Dave wrote:
I tell the people attending my workshops, "The best camera in the world, is the one you have with you."

Thank you for the citation!
Can't tell you how many great photos I get with my smartphone just because I have it with me!

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Nov 4, 2022 06:44:38   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Capn_Dave wrote:
I tell the people attending my workshops, "The best camera in the world, is the one you have with you."


Thank you for the citation!

Can't tell you how many great photos I got with my Smartphone jus because that is what I had with me when the opportunity presented itself!

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