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Oct 27, 2022 19:36:23   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
fantom wrote:
Let's hope so----- based on what I've heard. i am not a twitterer so haven't been affected by them.


Unlike trump and like you, I have never tweeted either...he should have refrained

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Oct 28, 2022 01:40:41   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
SteveS wrote:
As Elon Musk prepares to purchase Twitter on Friday, some of the employees thought it wise to write a letter with demands for the new owner. If they really think this was a good idea, their sense of importance is probably higher than he will think it is.


Looks as though a lot of those “Twitts” might want to consider their “demands”, lest they be out on the street!

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Oct 28, 2022 06:45:55   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
SteveS wrote:
As Elon Musk prepares to purchase Twitter on Friday, some of the employees thought it wise to write a letter with demands for the new owner. If they really think this was a good idea, their sense of importance is probably higher than he will think it is.


What a pity these people are. They are clowns who do not like it when people laugh at them? Who really cares about an organization comprised of fools?

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Oct 28, 2022 08:55:11   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Latest news.....Twitter workers consider mass relocation to Venezuela.....where their important work will be appreciated.....!!!



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Oct 28, 2022 13:14:32   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Signed en masse as "the Twits."

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Oct 28, 2022 13:36:42   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
SteveS wrote:
As Elon Musk prepares to purchase Twitter on Friday, some of the employees thought it wise to write a letter with demands for the new owner. If they really think this was a good idea, their sense of importance is probably higher than he will think it is.


There's actually been considerable talk about this in the Tech world lately.
The bottom line:

- Any developer or IT worker at a major social media site like that (Facebook, Instagram etc.) can pretty much leave there and name the salary at any large tech company.
- RIGHT NOW, this is also true for staff at Twitter.
- Having the new CEO call the staff crooks and liars who he is going to replace is not great for employee morale.
- So, a LOT of the staff will leave voluntarily.
- A large website like that cannot run long on auto-pilot, so it will need to staff up quickly, for a company that is getting a reputation as a toxic work environment, leading to a number of low-quality new hires.
- This will, gradually, lead to it being less desirable to have "Twitter" on your resume, leading to even more of the original staff leaving before it's too late.

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Oct 28, 2022 17:10:46   #
SteveS Loc: The US is my home.
 
JamesCurran wrote:
There's actually been considerable talk about this in the Tech world lately.
The bottom line:

- Any developer or IT worker at a major social media site like that (Facebook, Instagram etc.) can pretty much leave there and name the salary at any large tech company.
- RIGHT NOW, this is also true for staff at Twitter.
- Having the new CEO call the staff crooks and liars who he is going to replace is not great for employee morale.
- So, a LOT of the staff will leave voluntarily.
- A large website like that cannot run long on auto-pilot, so it will need to staff up quickly, for a company that is getting a reputation as a toxic work environment, leading to a number of low-quality new hires.
- This will, gradually, lead to it being less desirable to have "Twitter" on your resume, leading to even more of the original staff leaving before it's too late.
There's actually been considerable talk about this... (show quote)



What is less desirable to any employer, is when an employee forgets who signs their pay check.

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Oct 28, 2022 17:13:37   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
SteveS wrote:
What is less desirable to any employer, is when an employee forgets who signs their pay check.


No, what's least desirable to any employer, is forgetting who actually does the work.

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Oct 28, 2022 17:52:59   #
SteveS Loc: The US is my home.
 
JamesCurran wrote:
No, what's least desirable to any employer, is forgetting who actually does the work.


And can be replaced by someone else who can also do the work, but doesn't have a sense of entitlement.

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Oct 28, 2022 19:59:01   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
JamesCurran wrote:
No, what's least desirable to any employer, is forgetting who actually does the work.


Reminds my of a time back in the 80's when economies were tough. At one time City of Dallas employees had to take a 2% cut in pay. For the next few years there was change in pay. Finally, our department director came to our division and announced with great fanfare that under the incoming budget we would be getting a 1% increase in pay. Increase in pay!!! It was merely a restoration of half of what we'd given up. My director was a bit miffed when I pointed that out to him. We were supposed to be overcome with great appreciation. I never heard great appreciation come from managers when we gave up 2%.

There was another budget crunch when employees v**ed to forego increases so that fewer employees would be laid off.

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Oct 28, 2022 22:37:21   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
SteveS wrote:
And can be replaced by someone else who can also do the work, but doesn't have a sense of entitlement.



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Oct 28, 2022 23:37:55   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
SteveS wrote:
And can be replaced by someone else who can also do the work, but doesn't have a sense of entitlement.


These aren't unsk**led labor jobs.

Running an extremely high-volume website like Twitter is a highly specialized (and highly compensated) job. It will be very difficult (and very expensive) to replace them.

And that's just operations. Development is an equally specialized field and would require a long period where the new staff learns the existing code base.

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Oct 29, 2022 02:28:45   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
JamesCurran wrote:
These aren't unsk**led labor jobs.

Running an extremely high-volume website like Twitter is a highly specialized (and highly compensated) job. It will be very difficult (and very expensive) to replace them.

And that's just operations. Development is an equally specialized field and would require a long period where the new staff learns the existing code base.


These demanding (mostly) young persons may be technically bright and talented, but they are not irreplaceable.
It is likely they had to undergo at least SOME training on the specifics of the systems they work on — so it is not as though they were completely qualified in every way, to perform their jobs.

That means OTHER individuals can be trained to perform the same jobs, fill the same positions, and do the same work.

The workers, and even the management staff are NOT irreplaceable!
There are EVEN MORE talented and knowledgeable people who are interested in working without some overt sense of entitlement as exhibited by the “Demands” of the Twitts.

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Oct 29, 2022 05:02:52   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Wyantry wrote:
These demanding (mostly) young persons may be technically bright and talented, but they are not irreplaceable.
It is likely they had to undergo at least SOME training on the specifics of the systems they work on — so it is not as though they were completely qualified in every way, to perform their jobs.


I'm sure they could be replaced -- eventually. But onboarding a new employee takes time, particularly into a high-tech job. But the plane is already in the air --- this is no time to be training the pilot and the co-pilot and the flight attendants and the ground crew and the control tower.

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Oct 29, 2022 06:47:14   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
JamesCurran wrote:
I'm sure they could be replaced -- eventually. But onboarding a new employee takes time, particularly into a high-tech job. But the plane is already in the air --- this is no time to be training the pilot and the co-pilot and the flight attendants and the ground crew and the control tower.


It isn't as if the new pilot wouldn't be fully qualified and competent to fly, rather just needing to learn the placement of all the familiar controls in this new plane. Not as huge an issue as you seem to need to make it.

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