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Sep 15, 2022 18:05:07   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
Saw a post just yesterday that an upcoming movie about Queen Elizabeth II, will use a black woman representing the queen? Her pic was on Facebook but I wouldn't be able to find it. Why is this and makes no sense ?? Affects the credibility of the entire movie.

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Sep 16, 2022 08:06:48   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Burtzy wrote:
In the WWII film "Bataan", all the Japanese in the film were played by anyone except Japanese because all the Japanese-Americans had been shipped off to "relocation" (should be spelled camps. Hollywood has always followed the least line of resistance to profits. So if nowadays it's convenient and profitable for them to be inclusive, they will. When it's not, they won't. And by the way, soon it won't matter at all. AI has made it possible for them to use computers to model virtual actors. Pretty soon, the only argument will be what ethnic group is making the computers.
In the WWII film "Bataan", all the Japan... (show quote)


I think if you were to compare concentration camps in Europe during the war and after in Russia you would then know what "c-o-n-c-e-n-t-r-a-t-i-o-n" camps really were.

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Sep 16, 2022 08:47:46   #
GEL Loc: South Carolina
 
Iā€™m somewhat surprised that Disney reissues a movie that will only appeal to 13% of the USA population

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Sep 16, 2022 10:38:15   #
Ollieboy
 
LDB415 wrote:
The PC go apoplectic if there isn't "inclusion" at all times. The majority of shows now must include same sex couples, far more than in actual society, interracial couples, far more than in actual society, and now the latest "it" thing transgender individuals, far more than in actual society. But it won't do for anyone's program to not include them so they approach universal in current television. It was far superior entertainment when television was only meant to entertain and not to politicize and preach social commentary.
The PC go apoplectic if there isn't "inclusio... (show quote)


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Sep 16, 2022 10:52:01   #
mindzye Loc: WV
 
alexol wrote:
Jesus Christ has been almost always portrayed - movies, statues etc - as Caucasian, complete with blond hair a blue eyes. Given where He was from He would have had olive/brown skin, along with curly dark hair and most likely dark brown eyes - and considerable offence has been taken in some areas when He is portrayed more realistically.


I used to listen to a station that played a wide variety music genres on the weekends, 90.1 KPFT in Houston. One of the shows did an Americana theme (great music not usually heard on mainstream). One memorable song had the line "what if Jesus were a Mexican".
Personally don't care what skin He was wrapped in. Just like many of my friends from around the world.
His message and position in history is what was -is still- important/ necessary. Particularly in this time of our collective human race evolution.
Some people have a great need for perspective advancement.

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Sep 16, 2022 12:57:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
alexol wrote:
Speaking of the Ark and relates to previous parts of the thread, not giraffes but close enough for a smile...


Well, there's your problem.

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Sep 16, 2022 16:58:21   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
Burtzy wrote:
In the WWII film "Bataan", all the Japanese in the film were played by anyone except Japanese because all the Japanese-Americans had been shipped off to "relocation" (should be spelled c-o-n-c-e-n-t-r-a-t-i-o-n) camps. Hollywood has always followed the least line of resistance to profits. So if nowadays it's convenient and profitable for them to be inclusive, they will. When it's not, they won't. And by the way, soon it won't matter at all. AI has made it possible for them to use computers to model virtual actors. Pretty soon, the only argument will be what ethnic group is making the computers.
In the WWII film "Bataan", all the Japan... (show quote)


I argued with my son about Hollywood not needing actors anymore in my lifetime. He is quite well known in the circle of Hollywood. He argued that would never happen. Now 10 years later ge is finally coming around to my point of view. Employees are the biggest issue in business. So if the Hollywood businesses can eliminate a great hassle and money pit I'm betting they will

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Sep 16, 2022 16:59:50   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
MrBossHK wrote:
I still feel sad for the original Jake, from State Farm. He disappeared quicker than Jared, from Subway.


So true. RIP white Jake. šŸ¤­

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Sep 16, 2022 22:34:01   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
Then there's cultural appropriation. A kid can't wear an Indian costume any more - it's disrespectful, even if the child wears it to honor a particular individual. So is it cultural appropriation for a Black person to bleach his or her hair?

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Sep 16, 2022 23:22:13   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
GEL wrote:
Iā€™m somewhat surprised that Disney reissues a movie that will only appeal to 13% of the USA population


And just what 13% of the population is that? I believe there are more than 13% of the population tht will enjoy the new release. Disney appeals to a huge number of people.

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Sep 18, 2022 00:33:02   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Movies...plays...all follow the Greek methodology of a storyline arc.

So basically, they are all the same in their structure.

The most important part for me is the script...not the acting.

If you have a great script with average actors...you will be entertained...engaged.
If you have a bad script with GREAT actors...I will switch the channel.

A script can save movie/play.
An actor cannot save a bad script.

Since the arc is always the same...I can tell in 10 minutes if a movie is worth my time.

I don't care who is in it.
Movies...plays...all follow the Greek methodology ... (show quote)


I'm kinda along the same line.
"NCIS: Los Angeles" has good actors, lousy scripts.

There also used to be a large percentage of "colored" cowboys.
Until the Civil War. And after. Hardly any in the movies- except for a "Hattie".
For a while nowmovies have been a short story with lots of CGI scenes.
What used to be called "filler".
With better AI, we'll have @ 7 stories, replaceable faces and music- and nobody will know.

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Sep 18, 2022 01:24:46   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Harry0 wrote:
I'm kinda along the same line.
"NCIS: Los Angeles" has good actors, lousy scripts.

There also used to be a large percentage of "colored" cowboys.
Until the Civil War. And after. Hardly any in the movies- except for a "Hattie".
For a while nowmovies have been a short story with lots of CGI scenes.
What used to be called "filler".
With better AI, we'll have @ 7 stories, replaceable faces and music- and nobody will know.


And talk about discrimination - a few years ago I was Resident Manager of a large board and care facility in Gardena, California. (I quit when the owner's promised very substantial raise did not occur. --- I even had to bypass asking for her approval for major facility maintenance activity, or force her hand by quietly calling for city inspections.) Among the people working there, we had 4 black women, all having the same kind of duty. Quite obviously, the three lighter blacks discriminated against the one who was a shade darker, though all performed equally well in their jobs!!! But they would not even let her sit with them at lunch in the dining room.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Sep 18, 2022 02:41:16   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
rlv567 wrote:
And talk about discrimination - a few years ago I was Resident Manager of a large board and care facility in Gardena, California. (I quit when the owner's promised very substantial raise did not occur. --- I even had to bypass asking for her approval for major facility maintenance activity, or force her hand by quietly calling for city inspections.) Among the people working there, we had 4 black women, all having the same kind of duty. Quite obviously, the three lighter blacks discriminated against the one who was a shade darker, though all performed equally well in their jobs!!! But they would not even let her sit with them at lunch in the dining room.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City
And talk about discrimination - a few years ago I ... (show quote)

Just goes to show - there's stupid, thoughtless, unfeeling people everywhere.

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Sep 18, 2022 08:36:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
scallihan wrote:
Then there's cultural appropriation. A kid can't wear an Indian costume any more - it's disrespectful, even if the child wears it to honor a particular individual. So is it cultural appropriation for a Black person to bleach his or her hair?


Man, I hate that "cultural appropriation" complaint. Without that, we wouldn't have rock and roll. It would still be considered Black music. I thought imitation was a form of flattery, not a form of theft.

Our local school district dumped its "Indian" mascot/symbolism, etc. It was complaints from outsiders that got the ball rolling. The teams went from Indians to Eagles. I guess animals are the only safe mascots now - until PETA complains.

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Sep 18, 2022 11:53:37   #
Stephan G
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Man, I hate that "cultural appropriation" complaint. Without that, we wouldn't have rock and roll. It would still be considered Black music. I thought imitation was a form of flattery, not a form of theft.

Our local school district dumped its "Indian" mascot/symbolism, etc. It was complaints from outsiders that got the ball rolling. The teams went from Indians to Eagles. I guess animals are the only safe mascots now - until PETA complains.


As long as no Lions were harmed.

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