I currently shoot portraits, fashion and sports, have z6 ii and d810, would I gain much by adding d850 since it’s on sale again. I’m feeling GAS attack, also 75 years old
Bridges
Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
Fkaufman3 wrote:
I currently shoot portraits, fashion and sports, have z6 ii and d810, would I gain much by adding d850 since it’s on sale again. I’m feeling GAS attack, also 75 years old
How do you like the 810 vs. the z6ii? If you like the mirrorless better, you've answered your own question. You need to get the z7ii which has the same features as the 850 but a faster shutter speed + all the other advantages of mirrorless.
Fkaufman3 wrote:
I currently shoot portraits, fashion and sports, have z6 ii and d810, would I gain much by adding d850 since it’s on sale again. I’m feeling GAS attack, also 75 years old
Why not getting the Z7ii? You bought the Z6ii so you are OK with mirrorless.
Fkaufman3 wrote:
I currently shoot portraits, fashion and sports, have z6 ii and d810, would I gain much by adding d850 since it’s on sale again. I’m feeling GAS attack, also 75 years old
Keep the D810 as your classic DSLR and spend your money on the Z7 II. If you don't need the high pixel count why even get the Z 7 II unless you just want it.
My choice would be the D850 simply due to the resolution. It's higher than either of the two cameras you mentioned.
--Bob
Fkaufman3 wrote:
I currently shoot portraits, fashion and sports, have z6 ii and d810, would I gain much by adding d850 since it’s on sale again. I’m feeling GAS attack, also 75 years old
Bridges wrote:
How do you like the 810 vs. the z6ii? If you like the mirrorless better, you've answered your own question. You need to get the z7ii which has the same features as the 850 but a faster shutter speed + all the other advantages of mirrorless.
Sports/ Z7/Z7II shuTter lag & black out. That is why so many held out & waited for the Z9. Better off with the D850 IMHO.
Extreme GAS. If you're going to lust after a better camera, get rid of the old ones too.
Fkaufman3 wrote:
I currently shoot portraits, fashion and sports, have z6 ii and d810, would I gain much by adding d850 since it’s on sale again. I’m feeling GAS attack, also 75 years old
In YouTube comparisons, the Z6 II more than holds its own against the D850. I'd do a lot of online reading before spending that much for a D850.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nikon+d810+vs+d850
cjc2
Loc: Hellertown PA
NO! Old technology. Best of luck.
Fkaufman3 wrote:
I currently shoot portraits, fashion and sports, have z6 ii and d810, would I gain much by adding d850 since it’s on sale again. I’m feeling GAS attack, also 75 years old
Don't waste your money.
The IQ of the D810 was astonishing when it came out, and it can still go head to head with any newer full frame camera. The difference in IQ and detail between 36 megapixels (D810) and 45 megapixels (D850) is not as great as the numbers would suggest. I say that from personal experience. For a brief time, I had both cameras in my house (before I gave the D810 to my son in-law). With my best lenses, taking the same photos at the same settings, I could see just a bit more detail in the pictures taken with the D850, but only pixel peeping. In the real world of looking at pictures on a computer screen or making reasonably large enlargements, there is no difference. So for portraits and fashion, forget it.
As for upgrading to the D850 for sports, it's a maybe. It's a faster camera, faster autofocus, better focus tracking etc. It has a marginally faster frame rate than the D810 but significantly faster (9 fps) if you use the battery grip. Think of a beast of a camera with a beast of a full frame lens on a monopod on the sidelines and you have what you need for sports with this camera. I think you'd be better off using the Z6ii, taking advantage of the additional "reach" you get with full frame lenses.
The only sensible upgrade to the D810 would be a full frame mirrorless camera. The only compelling reason for not going that route would be if you own many older autofocus lenses that require a motor in the body for focusing and don't want to replace them over the cost issue. The FTZ adaptor would not provide that.
therwol wrote:
Don't waste your money.
The IQ of the D810 was astonishing when it came out, and it can still go head to head with any newer full frame camera. The difference in IQ and detail between 36 megapixels (D810) and 45 megapixels (D850) is not as great as the numbers would suggest. I say that from personal experience. For a brief time, I had both cameras in my house (before I gave the D810 to my son in-law). With my best lenses, taking the same photos at the same settings, I could see just a bit more detail in the pictures taken with the D850, but only pixel peeping. In the real world of looking at pictures on a computer screen or making reasonably large enlargements, there is no difference. So for portraits and fashion, forget it.
As for upgrading to the D850 for sports, it's a maybe. It's a faster camera, faster autofocus, better focus tracking etc. It has a marginally faster frame rate than the D810 but significantly faster (9 fps) if you use the battery grip. Think of a beast of a camera with a beast of a full frame lens on a monopod on the sidelines and you have what you need for sports with this camera. I think you'd be better off using the Z6ii, taking advantage of the additional "reach" you get with full frame lenses.
The only sensible upgrade to the D810 would be a full frame mirrorless camera. The only compelling reason for not going that route would be if you own many older autofocus lenses that require a motor in the body for focusing and don't want to replace them over the cost issue. The FTZ adaptor would not provide that.
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The difference between 36 MP and 45 MP IS significant when making deep crops on birds or other small subjects- read Dragonflys and the like. I have never thought or said wow, I wish I hadn't bought this D850. It was such a poor choice for me to have made!
Retired CPO wrote:
The difference between 36 MP and 45 MP IS significant when making deep crops on birds or other small subjects- read Dragonflys and the like. I have never thought or said wow, I wish I hadn't bought this D850. It was such a poor choice for me to have made!
Perhaps, but the OP is using the D810 for portraits and fashion.
There is nothing wrong with the D850, but 5 years out, there are compelling reasons to consider mirrorless if you already own a D810, and you can get your 45 megapixels. I was even going to suggest that the OP buy the Z9, the ultimate expression of GAS, and get some sleep at night until the next thing comes along.
Fkaufman3 wrote:
I currently shoot portraits, fashion and sports, have z6 ii and d810, would I gain much by adding d850 since it’s on sale again. I’m feeling GAS attack, also 75 years old
I have a D810 and a year ago I chose to face a similar decision (i.e., GAS). I ended up buying the Z7 ii, largely because of the weight delta. I know it isn’t much, but lugging 15 lbs of gear down to the lake to shoot birds made me think about every ounce.
I’ll tell you, the Z is kicking my butt…working to make every shot, and working to make me learn the machine…all in a good way…little things, like sitting at the edge of darkness and trying to get a Milky Way shot…viewfinder and screen are useless, so using my aftermarket viewfinder. And…standing 20 feet away off the dock, I can’t hear the shutter open with a remote release. Yes…first world problems…and I got a few nice images.
So…to answer your question, no…probably not much to gain.
The best cameras will always be reduced to the lowest quality of the glass attached to them.
I have the same cameras as you and I have come to the conclusion that the choice of glass has more impact on my images than the camera itself. I also have found that my lenses are an investment that I can carry forward from camera to camera provided they are compatible. You have plenty of frame speed for sports (people are far slower than flying birds) and of course for portraits too. Pixels are pixels and you have more than enough to be able to crop in and retain enough density for zooming in on the image.
Now, video is a different game altogether and there are often large differences between brands and their features.
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