Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The point is cameras get better, always. The fact that mirrorless cameras now are better than DSLRs in all ways is just the next item on the list of continuous improvements. Our OP/ everyone didn't stop at any prior point on the improvement continuum. What's this latest fixation on keeping mirrors?

dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC

I have a Canon 5DMk4 and a collection of EF lenses. It was a massive step-up from the 12 year old Olympus E-5 with 12.3 mp. Since then I have acquired an Canon R5. It is a huge step-up from the 5DMk4. I like the tack-sharp focus, the high resolution, the lighter telephoto lenses and the low light focusing. The eye focus feature is revolutionary. I will keep the 5dMk4 and still love it, but the R5 is superior in a lot of ways.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Everyday you keep a DSLRinosaur in the stable is another day it's worth less.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Why get rid of them?

Passé?

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Seems to me the "image acquition" is the same if you mean the image capture. But if you mean acquiring the viewing image, thaz very true. Its the one big difference. Just cant tell which you meant.

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Passe aint so bad. Some users still do film. The reason to move ahead is to acquire new capabilities, which acoarst only appeals to those who will use them.

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Verrrrrrry truly laffable that youve never seen any of the endless discussion about this topic. Laffs are really good medicine. Thanks, Doc !

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burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

The raw DATA in the raw FILE is just the digitized output from the sensor. HOWEVER, the preview image displayed by your operating system is a JPEG processed by the camera with the current menu settings. Many users do not understand this, and take the appearance of the preview as an indication of what the raw file will yield. They are often surprised when they open the raw file in post-processing applications (especially third party apps such as Lightroom Classic).

Opening a raw file in the camera manufacturer's supplied software (downloaded from their web site with your serial number, in most cases) will use the EXIF data in the JPEG preview image to make an initial conversion from the raw data, so the image will look like (or very similar to) the JPEG that might have come from the camera. But third party apps will apply whatever defaults you have set (or left set by the manufacturer of that software). The result may be entirely different from the camera JPEG! From there, you can push and pull the sliders to your heart's content, or apply a preset profile, or other effects from plug-ins.

A lot of folks are hung up on that idea that the optical viewfinder provides a more pristine and pure preview of the image. Heck, the optical finder image is NOTHING LIKE what will be rendered as a JPEG by the camera, OR a file rendered in post processing software! It may be more like the JPEG produced by the camera, because in most cases, the menu settings in the camera affect both the JPEG and the finder preview.

zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas

I think that this is a good point, and I think that many who shoot mirrorless are in agreement. The D850 still is an outstanding camera by any standard. There is no need to ditch it just because mirrorless is the direction the industry is going. My brother has been shooting with a D810 for years, and he has great lenses too. We had exactly this conversation, and he also sees no need to switch to mirrorless. His images are every bit as good as mine taken with my Sony A7III.

The argument changes for novices or photographers who want to upgrade. It makes no sense to invest in a DSLR system if you do not own any lenses. We all have to recognize that DSLR technology is no longer supported by any major camera manufacturer, so there is no point in investing in a technology that becomes more obsolete by the day.

I was shooting with a Nikon D7100 for years, and I wanted to upgrade to full-frame five years ago. I came close to getting a D850, together with full-frame lenses, when the Sony A7III came out. The A7III was exactly what I wanted, so switching to mirrorless was the obvious choice. I have never regretted that decision.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Then there is a huge swath of us who buy tools to perform specific tasks and accomplish real work for everyday life. NEEDS are major product attributes that have nothing to do with the touchy-feely crap a lot of sales courses teach. If a product or service doesn't fulfill needs, the emotional sales appeal might fool some people once, but they won't be back.

I've bought a lot of tech in my life. I've always (after a significant purchase in my teens that proved to be 100% waste of money) taken my time to research the field and buy specific solutions to specific problems. I buy things known to be reliable that I can be content to keep for a long time, and things that won't cost me much to maintain, repair, and operate. Call me weird, but as my grandfather said, "OLD monied folk don't buy stupidly."

Whenever a sales person starts "barfing features and benefits" into my airspace, I start asking pointed questions about how the product will or will not do what I need to get done. It's like my encounter with a car dealer who saw me coming in September of 1997 and immediately walked me over to look at an SUV. It was nice, but I HATE SUVs, and all I NEEDED was a commuter car to last me at least ten years. I was there to BUY a very specific car I had researched online, and he totally missed that possibility because he didn't even ASK. I dressed him down quietly. I said something like this:

"First of all, did you even bother to open a conversation with me properly? Did you indicate an interest in learning what my needs and circumstances might be? Did you ask me about my hopes, wants, dreams, and desires, and how a vehicle purchase might fit into those? I'm probably not your typical star-struck emotional customer. I'm here to buy a fully loaded '98 Corolla LE. I'm not interested in seeing any other cars. If you have some loaded '98 Corolla LEs, please take me to them, now."

I test drove a couple, went through some preliminary paperwork to see the price, and left. After checking two other dealers for price and equipment, and checking rates with my insurance company and credit union, I went back to buy from that first guy. However, he had just been fired... I got an even better deal from his replacement.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Sound like a typical old UHH reactionary.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Sorry about that-
Acquisition - acquire, obtain, get, procure, and yes, capture.