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Aug 17, 2022 17:37:11   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
sb wrote:
No mention of the fact that his cultish Christian Nationalist followers view him as a Christ-given and Christ-like savior in spite of his lack of any religious or spiritual (or even humanist) qualities whatsoever.


I don't believe anyone views him as a Christ like savior. You must be thinking of Obama. His supporters thought he could walk on water.

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Aug 17, 2022 17:47:48   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
As soon as Trump is convicted of ANYTHING, I will let you know if it causes my support to lag. Do I want him to run? No. If he does run though, unless the Democrats can put Jesus Christ on the their side of the b****t, Trump is getting my v**e.

Do you get tired of spamming us daily with these articles? Generally speaking, these slanted opinion pieces are garbage.


Supporters like yourself will not dismiss Trump even if he is convicted of breaking laws. You will claim blind Justice, and kangaroo courts. That is because you think he is a victim, and you have bought into his theme of persecution.
He has destroyed belief in the court system, the FBI, the e*******l process, and the the Justice department in your eyes. So don’t kid yourself, you will defend him even then. You will say that his trial was r****d, just as you believe the e******n was r****d. If one doesn’t believe in the framework, the institutions of America, then one doesn’t believe in America. That is what Trump has done—attacked and destroyed belief in the institutions of this country. Do you want a Civil War to make thungs right?

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Aug 17, 2022 17:51:40   #
SuneBonobo Loc: Maryland
 
JRiepe wrote:
I don't believe anyone views him as a Christ like savior. You must be thinking of Obama. His supporters thought he could walk on water.


Yeah that was a dumb statement. I asked for sources but so far none. What is the US population? 300 million or so?
I'm sure out of that number you could find 10 or 20 people that believe that. But to use such a broad brush as he did is i***tic.

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Aug 17, 2022 19:02:00   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
As soon as Trump is convicted of ANYTHING, I will let you know if it causes my support to lag. Do I want him to run? No. If he does run though, unless the Democrats can put Jesus Christ on the their side of the b****t, Trump is getting my v**e.

Do you get tired of spamming us daily with these articles? Generally speaking, these slanted opinion pieces are garbage.


no kidding...his boo-hooing never ceases...what a dreary life he must lead

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Aug 17, 2022 19:46:58   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
JRiepe wrote:
I don't believe anyone views him as a Christ like savior. You must be thinking of Obama. His supporters thought he could walk on water.


He ran circles around Chump.
Don't forget, Obama was "elected" to TWO consecutive terms and left Chump a booming economy when he left.

What did Chump do when he left....

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Aug 18, 2022 07:42:04   #
Watash
 
sb wrote:
No mention of the fact that his cultish Christian Nationalist followers view him as a Christ-given and Christ-like savior in spite of his lack of any religious or spiritual (or even humanist) qualities whatsoever.


Do you mean like the Dems viewed Obama aka("The One")?

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Aug 18, 2022 08:17:17   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
What was the reason the Republicans took control over Congress during Obama's terms? Same as with Clinton and G Bush with Democrats and other Presidents??


Non sequitar. The house nearly always flip in mid term e******ns. Look to the house e******n in the same year as p**********l e******n to understand.

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Aug 18, 2022 09:53:31   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Trump will further destroy the Republican Party, and the country—if they let him. They would do better to back a sane candidate, who believes sin the rule of law. The Republican leaders are apparently spineless in fear of losing their jobs. Party over country will destroy the Republic.


If "Trump will further destroy the Republican Party"—why not let him? Why get your panties in a knot all the time about how evil the man is when he is the ticket to achieving your ultimate goal? Do you even think about what you say?.

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Aug 18, 2022 09:56:09   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Non sequitar. The house nearly always flip in mid term e******ns. Look to the house e******n in the same year as p**********l e******n to understand.


Yes, that was exactly my point.

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Aug 18, 2022 10:05:22   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Fotoartist wrote:
If "Trump will further destroy the Republican Party"—why not let him? Why get your panties in a knot all the time about how evil the man is when he is the ticket to achieving your ultimate goal? Do you even think about what you say?.


I think a Civil War would be a bad thing—-Trump will not quietly leave, even if he loses. We know that from 2020.

I would rather see the Republicans nominate a sane candidate who believes in the rule of law, the Constitution, and understands what it means to be President. It is too much to ask that the Republican Party right itself?

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Aug 18, 2022 10:28:53   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Yes, that was exactly my point.


Go back and read my original post more carefully

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Aug 18, 2022 10:51:43   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Go back and read my original post more carefully


I did, your first post contradicts your response to me. You tend to not make much sense.

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Aug 18, 2022 11:06:32   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I think a Civil War would be a bad thing—-Trump will not quietly leave, even if he loses. We know that from 2020.

I would rather see the Republicans nominate a sane candidate who believes in the rule of law, the Constitution, and understands what it means to be President. It is too much to ask that the Republican Party right itself?


Why would there be a civil war if Trump destroys the Republican party, in other words, Republicans destroying themselves? Who would be fighting against that?

With Democrats in control forever we should have a utopia just like now, no,?

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Aug 18, 2022 11:39:03   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"At this point, no straw — no lead pipe, even — could break the camel’s back. Republicans have demonstrated that Donald Trump could commit any t***sgression or crime and they would still defend it.
Put another way: Trump conducted his Fifth Avenue test, and Republicans have failed.

Once upon a time, I (naively) believed that many Republican politicians might someday dump Trump. For two key reasons: A) They seemed to find him revolting; and B) he was a major political liability. Instead, as time wore on, their tolerance for both moral revulsion and political liability grew.

Boasting about grabbing non-consenting women by their g*****ls? At first a little iffy, then excused as harmless locker-room talk. Much the same with his embrace of neo-N**is after Charlottesville and of his instructions to the right-wing extremist P***d B**s to “stand by.” Also overlooked? His affair with a porn star, hush-money payments to silence said porn star and a subsequent apparent campaign finance violation.

Government-sponsored child abuse — of thousands of asylum-seeking kids abruptly separated from their parents — became acceptable to the “family values” party too.

Catherine Rampell: Families like this one were torn apart at the border. The U.S. still hasn’t made things right.
Using the power of the state to punish private companies that disagreed with him? Wh**ever; forget all those “free market” commitments. Extorting a crucial foreign ally, or governors overseeing a crisis, for personal political gain? Meh. Same with the piles of money given to Trump by corporate lobbyists and foreign governments through his private businesses while he occupied the White House.

And of course: Even encouraging a c**p attempt, during which Trump apparently endorsed his followers’ threats to execute other Republicans, was somehow within bounds.

So perhaps it should not be surprising that when Trump was found last week to have absconded with classified documents, erstwhile national security hawks still rushed to defend him. Republicans who once claimed to “back the blue” now smear federal law enforcement and fundraise off calls to “DEFUND THE FBI.”

And when Trump was implicated in possible violations of the Espionage Act, at least one GOP official responded by recommending repeal of the Espionage Act. It’s a new spin on an old Nixonian saw: When the president does it, it’s not illegal — or at least it won’t be for much longer.

It can be hard to understand why Republican politicians would so profoundly, repeatedly, abase themselves before Trump, particularly when he never returns the favor. Perhaps they’re just in awe of his political intuition. It must have taken a lot of foresight, after all, for Trump to declassify documents that the FBI would later plant at his house!
Or perhaps they admire his work ethic, compelled as he was to “bring home [his] work” and hang on to it long after it ceased to be his work. That’s just the kind of industrious man Trump is.

Max Boot: Republicans went crazy over the Trump search. Now they look i***tic.
In t***h, the problem is this: There are political consequences for not standing by Trump, as Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.) and most of the other House Republicans who v**ed to impeach him post-c**p have learned. But there are zero consequences for supporting him. That is true no matter how vile, corrupt or outright unlawful his actions turn out to be — and no matter how much his increasingly horrific conduct conflicts with the values those other politicians claim to espouse.

Republican officials are now casting about for some excuse that might exonerate Trump before they even know the extent of what he may have done. Perhaps, they now argue, the documents seized in a lawful search of Mar-a-Lago aren’t that big of a deal and shouldn’t have been marked classified at all. “These are materials that are 2 years old,” Rep. Michael R. Turner (R-Ohio) said Sunday on CNN, adding: “I’d be very surprised if he has actual documents that rise to the level of an immediate national security threat.”

If he and his Republican colleagues genuinely believe the classified documents Trump squirreled away are no biggie, they could prove it by pledging to read their contents into the congressional record. If these lawmakers don’t think this is a wise idea, and worry that making such documents public might jeopardize national security, then perhaps they should object to those documents being stored at Trump’s not-exactly-locked-down beach house, too.
On the other hand, perhaps it’s best not to call their bluff. Republicans might well be willing to publicize U.S. nuclear secrets if they believed doing so would get their leader out of a jam.

Trump will always choose himself over his country’s interests; and because his Republican toadies cannot help but stick by him, that means they will always preference his interests over America’s, too."

Catherine Rampell
"At this point, no straw — no lead pipe, even... (show quote)


Oh! I'm sorry and feel an apology in in order to all you liberal nut jobs... I missed that Trump has been convicted of anything, I must have missed that somewhere but assuredly given your current level of condemnation he has been convicted of treason and other serious crimes so all I can say is... "Sorry to all you folks that I have called media fed suckers...." Hope you can forgive me.

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Aug 18, 2022 12:54:13   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"At this point, no straw — no lead pipe, even — could break the camel’s back. Republicans have demonstrated that Donald Trump could commit any t***sgression or crime and they would still defend it.
Put another way: Trump conducted his Fifth Avenue test, and Republicans have failed.

Once upon a time, I (naively) believed that many Republican politicians might someday dump Trump. For two key reasons: A) They seemed to find him revolting; and B) he was a major political liability. Instead, as time wore on, their tolerance for both moral revulsion and political liability grew.

Boasting about grabbing non-consenting women by their g*****ls? At first a little iffy, then excused as harmless locker-room talk. Much the same with his embrace of neo-N**is after Charlottesville and of his instructions to the right-wing extremist P***d B**s to “stand by.” Also overlooked? His affair with a porn star, hush-money payments to silence said porn star and a subsequent apparent campaign finance violation.

Government-sponsored child abuse — of thousands of asylum-seeking kids abruptly separated from their parents — became acceptable to the “family values” party too.

Catherine Rampell: Families like this one were torn apart at the border. The U.S. still hasn’t made things right.
Using the power of the state to punish private companies that disagreed with him? Wh**ever; forget all those “free market” commitments. Extorting a crucial foreign ally, or governors overseeing a crisis, for personal political gain? Meh. Same with the piles of money given to Trump by corporate lobbyists and foreign governments through his private businesses while he occupied the White House.

And of course: Even encouraging a c**p attempt, during which Trump apparently endorsed his followers’ threats to execute other Republicans, was somehow within bounds.

So perhaps it should not be surprising that when Trump was found last week to have absconded with classified documents, erstwhile national security hawks still rushed to defend him. Republicans who once claimed to “back the blue” now smear federal law enforcement and fundraise off calls to “DEFUND THE FBI.”

And when Trump was implicated in possible violations of the Espionage Act, at least one GOP official responded by recommending repeal of the Espionage Act. It’s a new spin on an old Nixonian saw: When the president does it, it’s not illegal — or at least it won’t be for much longer.

It can be hard to understand why Republican politicians would so profoundly, repeatedly, abase themselves before Trump, particularly when he never returns the favor. Perhaps they’re just in awe of his political intuition. It must have taken a lot of foresight, after all, for Trump to declassify documents that the FBI would later plant at his house!
Or perhaps they admire his work ethic, compelled as he was to “bring home [his] work” and hang on to it long after it ceased to be his work. That’s just the kind of industrious man Trump is.

Max Boot: Republicans went crazy over the Trump search. Now they look i***tic.
In t***h, the problem is this: There are political consequences for not standing by Trump, as Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.) and most of the other House Republicans who v**ed to impeach him post-c**p have learned. But there are zero consequences for supporting him. That is true no matter how vile, corrupt or outright unlawful his actions turn out to be — and no matter how much his increasingly horrific conduct conflicts with the values those other politicians claim to espouse.

Republican officials are now casting about for some excuse that might exonerate Trump before they even know the extent of what he may have done. Perhaps, they now argue, the documents seized in a lawful search of Mar-a-Lago aren’t that big of a deal and shouldn’t have been marked classified at all. “These are materials that are 2 years old,” Rep. Michael R. Turner (R-Ohio) said Sunday on CNN, adding: “I’d be very surprised if he has actual documents that rise to the level of an immediate national security threat.”

If he and his Republican colleagues genuinely believe the classified documents Trump squirreled away are no biggie, they could prove it by pledging to read their contents into the congressional record. If these lawmakers don’t think this is a wise idea, and worry that making such documents public might jeopardize national security, then perhaps they should object to those documents being stored at Trump’s not-exactly-locked-down beach house, too.
On the other hand, perhaps it’s best not to call their bluff. Republicans might well be willing to publicize U.S. nuclear secrets if they believed doing so would get their leader out of a jam.

Trump will always choose himself over his country’s interests; and because his Republican toadies cannot help but stick by him, that means they will always preference his interests over America’s, too."

Catherine Rampell
"At this point, no straw — no lead pipe, even... (show quote)


From your article, Catherine Rampell states, "Republican officials are now casting about for some excuse that might exonerate Trump before they even know the extent of what he may have done."

Well why doesn't she and the Democrats supply evidence of the extent of his wrongdoings? He has done nothing wrong for the last dozen times in the past. Only an insane person like Catherine Rampell and you would think this time is any different.

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