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Aug 6, 2022 10:04:35   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Chance Logan wrote:
I used to ask my Dad why he didn't get mad when other people were yelling or saying 'bad things'. He would say, 'cause when they lose their temper that's when you know you're winning.' That would make me mad because I didn't get it. My Dad has passed, but I always remember those words. Years later when I finally got it, and my son asks about negatives or disagreements, I tell him...because it's always nice to be thought of..

Keep posting, Jerry.
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Aug 6, 2022 10:56:32   #
Canisdirus
 
Heh...where's it going to go?
Electrons like to move through...not sit.

But if they sit (battery)...they sit until they find a way forward...I doubt an unplugged charger is a pathway.

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Aug 6, 2022 12:18:27   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If you leave a battery in a charger that isn't plugged in, will the charger drain the battery? This topic was discussed in 2019, and the conclusion was: It depends. Time for a test.

I charged two Wasabi batteries (brand new) for my Z fc in a Wasabi dual charger. I checked the voltage, and one showed 8.43, while the other was at 8.41v. That's out of a nominal 7.6v. I put the 8.41v back into the unplugged charger, and I'll check the voltage on each one every day.

Boy, is this exciting!
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Hmm, I’m thinking one sample set isn’t a statistically valid test?

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Aug 6, 2022 13:23:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
47greyfox wrote:
Hmm, I’m thinking one sample set isn’t a statistically valid test?


It's 100% valid for me and these batteries.

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Aug 6, 2022 14:43:23   #
Smudgey Loc: Ohio, Calif, Now Arizona
 
Jerry, you really need to get out more.

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Aug 6, 2022 15:49:06   #
SteveFranz Loc: Durham, NC
 
My answer would be "yes" but that is purely anecdotal as I have nothing to prove or disprove. Just a few instances where I accidently left a battery on a charger and found out later it was discharged. But it could be that it needed a charge before I connected it & forgot to plug in the charger.....

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Aug 6, 2022 16:21:51   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
Jerry, you are indeed one busy man and have the curiosity of a cat!!! LOL

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Aug 6, 2022 20:11:59   #
williejoha
 
A slow day in Jerry’s life.
WJH

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Aug 6, 2022 20:58:18   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If you leave a battery in a charger that isn't plugged in, will the charger drain the battery? This topic was discussed in 2019, and the conclusion was: It depends. Time for a test.

I charged two Wasabi batteries (brand new) for my Z fc in a Wasabi dual charger. I checked the voltage, and one showed 8.43, while the other was at 8.41v. That's out of a nominal 7.6v. I put the 8.41v back into the unplugged charger, and I'll check the voltage on each one every day.

Boy, is this exciting!
If you leave a battery in a charger that isn't plu... (show quote)


Jerry: You have way to much time on your hands. You could count the number of sesame seeds on a hamburger bun.
You could count the number of vertebra a giraffe has as compared to a human. ( The answer is a surprising number). You could create a whole new religion photographers will follow. How about creating a new language for butterflies to understand.

More importantly, batteries will lose charge overtime. I will have to ask my engineer son. Most likely, the answer is probably way way over my head. In all, I’m just kidding. Because when I keep alkaline batteries in the fridge, I’m good for a while. If I do that with my camera batteries, I will leave them in the fridge and never take them out.

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Aug 6, 2022 22:18:05   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
Battery chargers have diodes, which are one way valves for electricity. Electrons can go one way but not the other.

Batteries are direct current (DC) and direct current can be stored whereas alternating current (AC like in your house) cannot be stored.

Diodes are used to convert AC into DC and therefore the electrons in the batteries cannot leak out.

Batteries fail when the insulating material inside them breaks down which is akin to a water bucket with holes in it. The more the material breaks down the faster the battery goes dead.

If you’re charging two batteries in the same charger and one is good and one bad the bad one can drain the good one. Even good batteries very slowly discharge but if the battery won’t charge, only charges partially or charges and loses that charge over a few days, the battery needs to be replaced.

Simplified electricity 101.

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Aug 7, 2022 03:30:11   #
Ed48 Loc: Superior, Wisconsin
 
Longshadow wrote:
Nah, my initial answer was my final answer.
"It depends."


I use Depends, but I don't know how this involves batteries

Ed48

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Aug 7, 2022 08:09:56   #
BebuLamar
 
Smudgey wrote:
Jerry, you really need to get out more.


I think what's Jerry is doing is really worth while. I would like to know if the unplug charger discharge the batery or that Wasabi (a highly recommended third party brand) isn't as good as genuine Nikon.

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Aug 7, 2022 08:46:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Horseart wrote:
Jerry, you are indeed one busy man and have the curiosity of a cat!!! LOL


Yes, I try to keep busy. I try to find "important" things to do instead of housework. Checking the voltage in batteries is now one of the important things.

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Aug 7, 2022 10:14:29   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
You know you’ve gotten old when your life revolves around checking battery voltages and living in fear daily of needing Depends. And last night my 3 year old grandson blacked my eye with his elbow. It’s embarrassing when a 3 year old kicks your butt.

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Aug 7, 2022 10:20:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
You know you’ve gotten old when your life revolves around checking battery voltages and living in fear daily of needing Depends. And last night my 3 year old grandson blacked my eye with his elbow. It’s embarrassing when a 3 year old kicks your butt.


No Depends for me - yet. It sounds like your reflexes are shot if a three-year-old can give you a black eye.

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