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Aug 5, 2022 07:14:28   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Wallen wrote:
Cropping the message to change its content to fulfill your point is not a work of a good person.

"Even worse are the snobs riding the trend, who flaunt the new gear and infer that those still using DSLR's are idiots."

Read that again, I did not say DSLR user are idiots.

Why do you lie? I'm a nobody compared to you. Why do you want me to look bad? You are lying to state a message I did not do.



"infer that those still using DSLR's are idiots' IS essentially the same as "say DSLR users are idiots"!!!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Aug 5, 2022 07:33:08   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Wallen wrote:
You practically say they are useless when you state they have no future.


People will continue to effectively use their DSLR’s for many years. Camera manufacturers have stopped development on DSLR’s. They have reached their peak. Mirrorless cameras have already surpassed DSLR’s in capability and will continue to improve. The torch has been passed. The DSLR had no future.

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Aug 5, 2022 07:35:14   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
rlv567 wrote:
"infer that those still using DSLR's are idiots' IS essentially the same as "say DSLR users are idiots"!!!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City


Don't forget to read the whole sentence.

"Even worse are the snobs riding the trend, who flaunt the new gear and infer that those still using DSLR's are idiots."

I'm commenting that there are people who infer.

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Aug 5, 2022 07:39:49   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
People will continue to effectively use their DSLR’s for many years. Camera manufacturers have stopped development on DSLR’s. They have reached their peak. Mirrorless cameras have already surpassed DSLR’s in capability and will continue to improve. The torch has been passed. The DSLR had no future.


If you mean it that way I agree with you about the no future part. Reached the peak, no. I believe they just decided not to continue because of saturation and consumer want for something else. Aside from the overhead being less when producing MILC. They will earn more per product sold.

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Aug 5, 2022 08:00:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Wallen wrote:
Again, clearly I am not against the advantages or people touting the advantages. Not against MILC's either. Only against the lies, hype and people looking down on others. But some people just couldn't see another point of view and they take what i say a personal reply or attack.


You're a hoot. You take every post about the glorious technology that is mirrorless as a personal insult to you, and more directly, your camera, an inanimate object with no feelings at all. And, then you accuse others of having the same insecurities about their cameras, when most don't. Yes, that weakness of character is what is being made fun of, not your equipment.

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Aug 5, 2022 08:10:33   #
bkwaters
 
elliott937 wrote:
I know this is going to upset some, but I'm eager to read reactions.

From the June/July of Outdoor Photography, and from an article titled "The Mirrorless Future Is Now", all sounding so promising. But here is a direct quite which I will type here.

"Though the potential of mirrorless camera systems was intriguing, the nascent technology also posed limitations that would take years to resolve. Early mirrorless cameras relied on sensor-based contrast-detection autofocus, which lacked the responsive accuracy of the phase-detection autofocus offered by DSLRs, and their electronic viewfinders were relatively sluggish, dim (especially in low-light scenes) and low-resolution, providing suboptimial experience compared to the optical view-finders in DSLRs."

Quoted straight from the June/July issue of Outdoor Photography.

Thoughts?
I know this is going to upset some, but I'm eager ... (show quote)


I agree with you this is poorly written. If the paragraph started “While initially….” and ended with “which for the most part have been resolved”, there would have been no need to comment. The actual quote is ambiguous and misleading.

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Aug 5, 2022 08:41:09   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Wallen wrote:
If you mean it that way I agree with you about the no future part. Reached the peak, no. I believe they just decided not to continue because of saturation and consumer want for something else. Aside from the overhead being less when producing MILC. They will earn more per product sold.


I’m not saying DSLR’s couldn’t be improved on, but those improvements would be incremental and still would never surpass what’s capable with mirrorless. Hence No development on new DSLR’s so they’ve reached their peak.

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Aug 5, 2022 08:48:35   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I’m not saying DSLR’s couldn’t be improved on, but those improvements would be incremental and still would never surpass what’s capable with mirrorless. Hence No development on new DSLR’s so they’ve reached their peak.


I agree with that
Even though they share quite a number of qualities, the two are actually incomparable. MILC is a totally different camera, just like Film SLR is totally different to DSLR's. They just all look the same but in their core, they are not.

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Aug 5, 2022 09:03:50   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You're a hoot. You take every post about the glorious technology that is mirrorless as a personal insult to you, and more directly, your camera, an inanimate object with no feelings at all. And, then you accuse others of having the same insecurities about their cameras, when most don't. Yes, that weakness of character is what is being made fun of, not your equipment.


LOL. Every? Do I reply on every MILC is the new slice bread post?
I was not even talking about you or about MILC's technology when I agree with rook2c4. I was talking about the hype, the support and the manufacturers decisions, but you just have to personally insult me and my tools.
CHG_CANON wrote:

Rethink your life choices, and you'll see you could lead an entirely new life, a life free of mirrors, a life free of Nikon.

Yes tools, I never think of them any other way. You can research all my posts and you'll see I do not glorify my tools and say nothing is better. Nor any other technology as technology changes and move on.
Your making things up and lying even more. I think your the one who's the insecure to focus on small fry like me.

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Aug 5, 2022 09:31:48   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Wallen wrote:
Yes tools, I never think of them any other way. You can research all my posts and you'll see I do not glorify my tools and say nothing is better. Nor any other technology as technology changes and move on.
Your making things up and lying even more. I think your the one who's the insecure to focus on small fry like me.


If you're going to engage in a childish discussion of brands (including your own bashing of Nikon) or camera format, you can't then say it's childish...

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Aug 5, 2022 12:08:05   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Wallen wrote:
Don't forget to read the whole sentence.

"Even worse are the snobs riding the trend, who flaunt the new gear and infer that those still using DSLR's are idiots."

I'm commenting that there are people who infer.



Reading the whole sentence makes no difference whatsoever in the meaning. In what you have written, for all intents and purposes, "infer" IS the same as "say"!!!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Aug 5, 2022 14:08:06   #
profbowman Loc: Harrisonburg, VA, USA
 
camshot wrote:
Mirrorless cameras all have a fault, often if you try to focus on a distant subject, it will focus on the further distance
and lock on. To change it, you have to point the camera at a close subject, quickly touch for focus and quickly try to refocus on your subject. Such as focusing on, say the eye of a deer, it often jumps to the distance beyond the subject, and locks. From what I understand this is a problem with all mirrorless cameras.


That sounds like you have not set your focus to be at the center of your image. Try the various focusing modes available. Just an idea from this mirrorless owner whole likes his camera. --Richard

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Aug 5, 2022 14:16:35   #
User ID
 
Wallen wrote:
You practically say they are useless when you state they have no future.

Brain fever ? Do you feel useless just cuz your future is curtailed ? Dont worry. The future aint what it used to be.

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Aug 5, 2022 16:35:30   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
I would dispute that.

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Aug 5, 2022 17:30:41   #
User ID
 
mffox wrote:
I would dispute that.

But you cant.

BTW, what are you talking about ?

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