SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Yep, EVF’s used to suck. Not any longer.

User ID

The absolutely most ultra weirdest thing that happened on the planet today ... is that Paul didnt tell you that the feature you want is in all FF EOS R-series above the entry level RP.

Somebody please jump start the planet !

jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska

I don't really know. I have a feeling this is a problem with most mirrorless cameras but users aren't noticing it. I often use mine to shoot macro focus stacks against a white background. That's probably the most extreme way so make mirror dust show up. The most tiny spec will show up as a brown "worm" that needs to be edited out. Try it sometime if you want to see just how clean your sensor really is. You probably would not see the spots if shooting darker subjects with no focus stacking. I do know that it seems to be far worse with the mirrorless camera than with my DSLR.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

Uhmnnn...yes - clunk click every trip.

Dan' de Bourgogne

Yes, I agree...Bob submits fine frames! Curmudgeon, Sippymug, Tinyman and some other members too!

Boris77

This is most of why I tried and rejected "mirrorless" cameras as they developed. Using DSLRs saved me years of grief in photographing stage and dance. Now that I am older and no longer compete with the younger crowd for fame and fortune, I find that my DSLR cameras and knowledge of what they can do are close enough to satisfying me that it would be stupid to invest in new technology. The old will wear out, but not before my body does.

I agree that someone that is looking forward to a FUTURE in photography has to buy whatever is popular on the market, but they best be using it NOW because the technology is rapidly changing and the new electronics are not going to offer the life span (functionality OR durability) we old timers are used to.
Boris

jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska

Thanks for that info User ID. In fairness to Paul, the mirrorless camera I bought is the M6-2, their little 32 mp APS-C camera which apparently doesn't have whatever feature protects the sensor. I didn't mention which camera it was in my first post and didn't know that some other camera models do have some way to protect the sensor. Now I do. If I purchase another one I will definitely check that out.

Ivanhoe Loc: Leetonia, Ohio

With all due respect to those who are more knowledgeable than I. My son and I shoot with the Canon R5 so what I say is based on this camera. We don’t refocus as you described. We have a button setup that lets us use multiple points, single point and eye tracking. I the situation you described I would use single point focus and set that point on the head or eye myself. If time allows I will try the eye tracking again and see if it helps. If it works great. If not I just quickly recompose and go back to single point. It seems to work for us. We also set exposure on the EF to RF adapter ring. The system isn’t perfect but we feel that mirrorless is far ahead. It’s just adapting to a new way of shooting. I love my 5Div but will sell it and get the R6 to replace it. Mirrorless, in my opinion is a game changer. Paul is correct. Something about a new way of looking at things.

jcboy3

I've been shooting mirrorless for 10 years (since mid-2012). They had crap AF for many years, so I shot sports and wildlife with DSLRs most of that time. I stopped using DSLRs for sports in 2020, and I stopped using DSLRs for wildlife at the end of 2021 when I traded in for a full mirrorless setup.

But I shot mirrorless most of the time for two main reasons: quiet shutter and electronic viewfinder. On mirrorless cameras, the mechanical shutter was much quieter because there was no mirror slap. And, on mirrorless, electronic shutter was silent. And with an electronic viewfinder, you can review images and access menu items in bright sunlight with no issues.

I have transitioned exclusively to mirrorless in the last year. In addition, I have transitioned almost exclusively from Nikon (which I still shoot mirrorless occasionally) to Olympus (with a little Panasonic for video). That transition is due primarily to the faster sensor readouts (1/60 or 1/120 sec) and Pro Capture feature.

Nikon AF is not as good (except perhaps with the Z9), but Olympus AF has gotten as good as my Nikon DSLRs. And I get shots I could not get with Nikon DLSRs, so that's all that matters to me.

None of this is cheaper, though. I spent 10K on Nikon gear in 2021, and 10K on Olympus gear in 2022. But the Nikon gear is collecting dust, because I don't shoot weddings anymore (due to COVID) and I'm just not happy lugging Nikon gear around in the great outdoors. I carried 30lb of Nikon gear on skis down advanced ski runs while shooting Alpine ski races. My knees and back won't tolerate that anymore.

rmmason

Not sure which cameras you're including with your adjective 'all,' but most cameras I've seen enable selecting a focal point from among hundreds of points...and many (more all the time) provide for automatic eye focus and automatic eye tracking. I use this often [Sony a7rIV] and find it works extremely well.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

Personally? I don't think so. I'm only rebutting the notion that DSLR is useless and no longer have a future which seems to be the generic message supporting the MILC's. Truthfully, IMHO, only with the release of Nikons top of the line Z models was the MILC's really been improved well enough to be at par with the DSLR, even though the MILC vs DSLR debate has been running on for many years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirrorless_camera
I'm not against improvement, I'm against lies and advertising lingo.

The question is why do some people who have and use MILC gets offended? The truth hurts? None of what I stand for is against them. Actually they are usually the ones looking down on other photographers either directly or trying clever retorts. Neither is ok. Sarcastic comments or jokes are like explosions. They look great when your watching but are never funny if its heading your way.

I have spoken about purchasing a new camera many times. It's always the same message. Its their money, do as they please, but it is not wrong to buy the older system as those will be cheaper and still do a really good job.

As for the D7200 vs D7500, only a crazy person will use the D7500 for paid works that can not be repeated, like weddings because the second card slot is that important.
Market share & discounts proves this too, as when they both went on sale together, the D7200 still costs more than the D7500. The line was dumbed down, no question about it.

Again, clearly I am not against the advantages or people touting the advantages. Not against MILC's either. Only against the lies, hype and people looking down on others. But some people just couldn't see another point of view and they take what i say a personal reply or attack.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Nobody says DSLR’s are useless. But they don’t really have a future.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

You practically say they are useless when you state they have no future.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

Cropping the message to change its content to fulfill your point is not a work of a good person.

"Even worse are the snobs riding the trend, who flaunt the new gear and infer that those still using DSLR's are idiots."

Read that again, I did not say DSLR user are idiots.

Why do you lie? I'm a nobody compared to you. Why do you want me to look bad? You are lying to state a message I did not do.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado