The demise of Canon and Nikon DSLRs a good thing?
Jul 17, 2022 19:52:23 #
JD750 wrote:
You don’t understand. If you took it with a mirrorless camera it would most definitely be better. ;)
Kinda sorta depends ...
If *I* took it with an advanced EVF, then it most assuredly would be waaaay better.
Jul 17, 2022 20:01:29 #
greekd214 wrote:
Really? The type of camera you have makes you a bad or good photographer? I have a dslr so does that mean Ican't be a better photographer?
Your post confirms it.
Jul 17, 2022 20:04:04 #
stanikon wrote:
But that is exactly what you are saying. br br I ... (show quote)
You are taking this way too personal. And yes I have the first photo I ever took, it was of my dog, named Jet. Kodak box camera with 620 film .
No need to be so defensive Stan, we all respect your choice and your having "been around the block" . No one is patronizing you, relax Stan. Many UHHers have been around the block. Just dont you be patronizing to those who have embraced that DSLRs dominance is over, never to return. There is room for all of us in the photo world.
This discussion is about the passing of the torch from DSLR for two legendary camera companies. It isn't about you or me really.
I have used the best from Kodak, Polaroid, Fujica, Minolta, Yashica, Miranda, Nikon, Canon, Leica, Mamiya, Hasselblad , Olympus, Panasonic. None of that matters if the journey wasn't a fun learning experience along the way. Luckily for us it has been Stan.
And yes maybe changing gear wont make you a better photographer, but you will never know if you never try the best mirrorless gear will you ? The experience might surprise you, maybe not. I know I could have made a better shot of my ole dog Jet now with modern gear then back then with my Kodak box camera and 620 film, its fixed shutter speed was terrible at stopping a running Jet back then (lol) ,but that early shot will always be closest to my heart and my photographic journey.
I think I have advanced in my skill and vision as a shooter over the decades ,along with the advances in gear over the decades. I never bought gear with the dream of being the next great "anyone" photographer of all the ones I had admired, and the great ones that I had the great fortune to be mentored by.
I have always strived to be the next better me as a shooter and photo educator.
No one should spend money on gear they dont need, ever, especially not just because it is the latest thing. And no one can be the next Ansel Adams, there will always be only one anyway, lol (FYI, I have a couple of Adams print, given to me as a wedding gift, many years ago and I treasure them more than that bad first marriage, lol).
I have worked hard over the decades to be able to afford my gear. Mirrorless was the right move for me and it has advanced my craft.
Be happy , enjoy your journey with whatever gear you have.
Cheers and best to you Stan
Jul 17, 2022 20:22:18 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to be a better photographer, there are two things you must do above all others: buy a mirrorless camera and use it.
Tell that to Ansel Adams and other B&W landscape photographers. You well know it ain't the equipment, its the eye through the viewfinder. I suppose this is another of your snarky comments. Going to mirror-less will not by itself make you a better photographer, and neither will going to Canon. I'm certain DSLR death will happen eventually, at least if they can develop a way for mirror-less to have equal battery performance to DSLR.
Jul 17, 2022 20:27:23 #
twb930s wrote:
Tell that to Ansel Adams and other B&W landscape photographers. You well know it ain't the equipment, its the eye through the viewfinder. I suppose this is another of your snarky comments. Going to mirror-less will not by itself make you a better photographer, and neither will going to Canon. I'm certain DSLR death will happen eventually, at least if they can develop a way for mirror-less to have equal battery performance to DSLR.
Myths are wonderful tools, suggesting talent and effort can overcome the lack of superior cameras.
BTW - wake up to current developments. The battery life of the newest mirrorless technology wonders surpass the best of the DSLRosaurs.
Jul 17, 2022 20:33:17 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Myths are wonderful tools, suggesting talent and effort can overcome the lack of superior cameras.
I'm not against mirror-less, but to assume they are, in every way, superior to DSLR is ludicrous. They are superior to DSLR's in some ways, but not all. That is a ridiculous comment from someone who should know better.
Jul 17, 2022 20:36:21 #
twb930s wrote:
I'm not against mirror-less, but to assume they are, in every way, superior to DSLR is ludicrous. They are superior to DSLR's in some ways, but not all. That is a ridiculous comment from someone who should know better.
Pretending DSLRs are superior to the corresponding mirrorless models in July 2022 is the most ludicrous statement yet on this thread. If only closed minds came with closed mouths, especially when all the knowledge and evidence is everywhere to find, to know, and to buy.
Here's a quick 17 reasons, as a seemingly necessary reminder:
1. Smaller body by removing the space needed for that yesteryear flapping mirror.
2. IBIS that turns every lens into a stabilized lens, even the golden oldies of the manual focus, pre-electronic ages.
3. EVF with shimmering highlights of the plane of focus.
4. Histogram available for display in electronic view finder (EVF).
5. Detailed 10x zoom in EVF.
6. Silent (not a single noise) shutter.
7. Extreme frames per second, 20+.
8. Image playback in EVF for review when LCD impossible to see in bright light.
9. Image playback at 10x zoom in EVF.
10. Sharper mirrorless lens designs.
11. More ultra fast lenses as sharp wide open as any stepped down DSLR lens ever.
12. One digital platform supporting portfolio of legacy DSLR lenses, legacy SLR lenses and modern mirrorless lenses.
13. Autofocus beyond f/8 for extended configurations.
14. Platform for any / all ongoing technology advancements in digital photography.
15. EVF that displays the results of the image before shooting.
16. EVF that allows for ad hoc updates like boosting the ISO for a brighter focus view, then restore ISO and shoot, without even lowering the camera from a shooting position.
17. Entire frame available for selective AF position.
Jul 17, 2022 20:40:51 #
Jul 17, 2022 20:42:45 #
twb930s wrote:
Snark, snark, yadda, yadda. OMO.
Oh well, close your eyes, close your ears ...
Jul 17, 2022 20:52:25 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Oh well, close your eyes, close your ears ...
You completely miss the point. I'm not against mirror-less, I might even have one. I might even have switched from DSLR. But I AM against those who think they know it all and shove their opinions onto and denigrate others as you often do. Just because you think you know it all doesn't mean you do. It's mostly your overbearing attitude. You should lighten up and respect other's opinions. FOS.
Jul 17, 2022 20:54:52 #
twb930s wrote:
You completely miss the point. I'm not against mirror-less, I might even have one. I might even have switched from DSLR. But I AM against those who think they know it all and shove their opinions onto and denigrate others as you often do. Just because you think you know it all doesn't mean you do. It's mostly your overbearing attitude. You should lighten up and respect other's opinions. FOS.
You clearly don't understand the first thing of anything I been saying ... That's the saddest development of all.
Jul 17, 2022 20:56:47 #
Jul 17, 2022 21:13:16 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You clearly don't understand the first thing of anything I been saying ... That's the saddest development of all.
No, I do understand everything you've said. Completely.
Jul 17, 2022 23:16:07 #
Soul Dr. wrote:
I recently found a 12MP EOS pretty cheap and got it to try some "full frame" lenses on it. It seems to me now that, unless you get a higher MP model and "pro" grade lenses, you are pretty much wasting your time. A "kit" lens on an old DSLR is OK, but not a game changer.
Eventually, photographers won't even know what "full frame" refers to. But if you have bunch of full frame quality lenses, the situation is not the same. I would love to have an old 105 2.5 Nikkor on a full frame body!
Jul 18, 2022 00:06:08 #
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Will[/quote
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will
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Will[/quote
Really? You're going to believe MSN before you do a reality check? I can't believe people listen to this stuff.[/quote]
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