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Jul 16, 2022 07:05:40   #
ZtaKED Loc: Lakes Region, New Hampshire & NE Florida
 
PHRubin wrote:
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind folks a Canon were kind enough to send me a link to download the user's manual to review while I wait.

In reading it I find I need an adapter for my flash as well as for my old lenses. When I tried to download and install DPP 4 with the codec for the R7 RAW files, I find I need a newer computer. Mine is still running Windows 7 and 10 is the minimum requirement. Yes, Windows 10 can be installed on it, but it slows the thing way down. Also, I'm still using a 19" flat-screen VGA monitor.

When I got this computer years ago, I was angry that my copy of MS Office as well as Quicken and my scanner were too old for it. I can only guess what I'm using on my PC now that won't be compatible with a new computer.

Yes, you may say I live on the trailing edge of technology.
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind ... (show quote)


If you want to play, you gotta pay….sometimes it better to trail the technology by one generation after the hardware/ software folks showcase the next best thing since canned beer. Usually, there’s a few dollars of value left in what you have for trade or sale. I’m more than happy to take hand-me-ups from my kids. I just offered my daughter $20 more than the “generous” Apple trade in value for her not so old Mac laptop. She was very happy to take my offer.

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Jul 16, 2022 07:19:57   #
tedmoore Loc: Philadelphia
 
There are free MS Office alternatives available (you may not be able to replicate Publisher, though). Google is your friend…

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Jul 16, 2022 07:20:38   #
tedmoore Loc: Philadelphia
 
Excellent point/advice. Thank you!

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Jul 16, 2022 07:21:56   #
tedmoore Loc: Philadelphia
 
Great advice! Thanks

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Jul 16, 2022 07:39:10   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
PHRubin wrote:
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind folks a Canon were kind enough to send me a link to download the user's manual to review while I wait.

In reading it I find I need an adapter for my flash as well as for my old lenses. When I tried to download and install DPP 4 with the codec for the R7 RAW files, I find I need a newer computer. Mine is still running Windows 7 and 10 is the minimum requirement. Yes, Windows 10 can be installed on it, but it slows the thing way down. Also, I'm still using a 19" flat-screen VGA monitor.

When I got this computer years ago, I was angry that my copy of MS Office as well as Quicken and my scanner were too old for it. I can only guess what I'm using on my PC now that won't be compatible with a new computer.

Yes, you may say I live on the trailing edge of technology.
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind ... (show quote)


The electronics/software trap? Well as many photos that I take (usually more than half, maybe even 75% get deleted) I guess it might be cheaper than film? If I update past the D850, if I stay Nikon or go any new camera, probably will have to upgrade software, etc. Part of the game.

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Jul 16, 2022 07:43:44   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
SteveZas wrote:
I’ve been doing photography for about 12 years now. I tend to enjoy the creating aspect of the final image and have always tried to upgrade my processing skill-set. I mostly do landscapes and always use a tripod and AEB for HDR averaging about five images per bracket. As a result, the processing power can never be too much. Especially now as there is an ever increasing development of the Ai programs which are power hungry. If you are as addicted as I am I would suggest having your computer hand built. I’ve done three so far at MicroCenter ( which is around my area ). There are several good sources for how to pick out the best hardware. Search the net for computer builds. There are many tutorials on picking hardware and how to design for what your needs are. There are many of these posted. I often can have a single high resolution fully processed image that can exceed 1.65 gigabytes at full resolution. It is very difficult to find an off the shelf computer to handle that.
Custom builds can be built often much cheaper than the ready built that have all the bells and whistles.
It will describe step by step for the do it your selfers. Or, assembly labor for a custom build can cost between 100-150 depending on how large of a pc is to be built. That comes with a full service warranty ( that can be lengthened ) for one year. Trust me, go to the head of the class. You’ll be glad you did. If you just like to take snapshots, the aforementioned is not necessary.
I’ve been doing photography for about 12 years now... (show quote)


Prefabs off the shelf almost always have a bottleneck somewhere in the build. Anything to boost the profits. The ones that don't cost more than a custom build.

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Jul 16, 2022 08:28:38   #
wireloose
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If I buy a new computer now I would be out of MS Office. My copy will install on new computer and run fine but only a month because MS won't activate it any more.


Is it very old? I just replaced my graphics card yesterday, Office needed réactivation, online declined that, if you do it over the phone took 5 minutes and I am back in business. Had the same with Windows last time I upgraded my motherboard and processor.

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Jul 16, 2022 08:37:34   #
FrumCA
 
PHRubin wrote:
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind folks a Canon were kind enough to send me a link to download the user's manual to review while I wait.

In reading it I find I need an adapter for my flash as well as for my old lenses. When I tried to download and install DPP 4 with the codec for the R7 RAW files, I find I need a newer computer. Mine is still running Windows 7 and 10 is the minimum requirement. Yes, Windows 10 can be installed on it, but it slows the thing way down. Also, I'm still using a 19" flat-screen VGA monitor.

When I got this computer years ago, I was angry that my copy of MS Office as well as Quicken and my scanner were too old for it. I can only guess what I'm using on my PC now that won't be compatible with a new computer.

Yes, you may say I live on the trailing edge of technology.
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind ... (show quote)

I upgraded to Win 10 years ago with no problems or slow down and then recently purchased a new backup desktop with Win 11. To keep up with feature improvements in applications you will have to bite the bullet and upgrade your OS. New monitors are relatively inexpensive as well. Time to upgrade I think😀😀.

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Jul 16, 2022 09:00:09   #
dbjazz Loc: Long Island, NY
 
I feel your pain. My car just told me that my phone is too old.

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Jul 16, 2022 09:02:33   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dbjazz wrote:
I feel your pain. My car just told me that my phone is too old.


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Jul 16, 2022 10:05:47   #
photoman43
 
PHRubin wrote:
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind folks a Canon were kind enough to send me a link to download the user's manual to review while I wait.

In reading it I find I need an adapter for my flash as well as for my old lenses. When I tried to download and install DPP 4 with the codec for the R7 RAW files, I find I need a newer computer. Mine is still running Windows 7 and 10 is the minimum requirement. Yes, Windows 10 can be installed on it, but it slows the thing way down. Also, I'm still using a 19" flat-screen VGA monitor.

When I got this computer years ago, I was angry that my copy of MS Office as well as Quicken and my scanner were too old for it. I can only guess what I'm using on my PC now that won't be compatible with a new computer.

Yes, you may say I live on the trailing edge of technology.
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind ... (show quote)


My experience with old windows pcs was that win 10 ran faster than win 7. I am still using Microsoft Home and Student 2010 on a win 10 pro 64 bit laptop and desktop. If your version is still 32 bit, you may be able to update it to 64 bit. You will need your installation disk and your License code.

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Jul 16, 2022 10:07:59   #
Double B Loc: South Carolina
 
Unfortunately we are all caught in Moores law where they predicted that the number of transistors on a microchip would double every year, and they did in a single layer. So as time goes on and engineers get more cleaver they have learned how to make 3D transistor layers in semiconductors.

Hence the advancement of technology we all love, in my case Dual Expeed 6 processors in mu Z 6II. My first computer was an IBM 286 with 640k of ram and dual 5 1/4" floppy drives, I at that time thought I was king.... Fortunately those days are gone and technology has advanced to where we are today.

In our world of photography we still need the ability to correct our images and begin thinking about workflow and how we manage it all. We have operating systems, processor speed, and RAM to contend with. It is never fun or easy to upgrade computers, but there comes a time, depending on need of course, I'm sure someone out there is still running that old IBM; when the transition is necessary.

Just like the excitement of new camera systems the computer and software should really follow suite. Technology changes and so does software making our jobs easier. In my opinion Adobe, albeit Photoshop is wonderful software, is too expensive for what I use it for, I am not a professional photographer. I don't want to pay for a subscription service that I might not use for several months, which is why I found Affinity Photo and Designer serve me well. Then you have workflow to consider Adobe has become the king out there but here to are other options without subscriptions...

So the end of the long story, PHRubin, I feel your pain but you may have some options to help with your system depending on whether it is a desktop or laptop.

Here are some things you could consider to boost your speed and make Windows 10 more friendly:

- Increase the amount of RAM you have, in some laptops they have proprietary built in RAM so this is not possible but it is worthwhile checking out. In an older system it will be very inexpensive. In a Desktop, this is easy peasy...

- Consider changing your hard drive from the old SATA hard drive to a solid state drive.
Sata hard drives are rated to last 10-years it is not a point of if they will fail, it is when, and here is the point that panic sets in...
The first indication that a hard drive is on the way out will be if a computer is getting slower and slower. The programs take several minutes to load. Second, the computer keeps freezing just after you try to load a program. It stays like that for minutes, and you can’t do anything about it.

This is of course is where backup comes in, personally I have 20 TB of backup and storage where I don't store anything that I don't want to lose on the laptop I use.
Changing hard drives is an easy task and most manufacturers provide the new drive with cloning software built in so it will transfer all operating systems and software. There is a tremendous amount of information on the web regarding these upgrades if you decide this is a better more cost effect path for you to pursue.
Hope this help....
BB

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Jul 16, 2022 10:09:24   #
photoman43
 
SteveZas wrote:
I’ve been doing photography for about 12 years now. I tend to enjoy the creating aspect of the final image and have always tried to upgrade my processing skill-set. I mostly do landscapes and always use a tripod and AEB for HDR averaging about five images per bracket. As a result, the processing power can never be too much. Especially now as there is an ever increasing development of the Ai programs which are power hungry. If you are as addicted as I am I would suggest having your computer hand built. I’ve done three so far at MicroCenter ( which is around my area ). There are several good sources for how to pick out the best hardware. Search the net for computer builds. There are many tutorials on picking hardware and how to design for what your needs are. There are many of these posted. I often can have a single high resolution fully processed image that can exceed 1.65 gigabytes at full resolution. It is very difficult to find an off the shelf computer to handle that.
Custom builds can be built often much cheaper than the ready built that have all the bells and whistles.
It will describe step by step for the do it your selfers. Or, assembly labor for a custom build can cost between 100-150 depending on how large of a pc is to be built. That comes with a full service warranty ( that can be lengthened ) for one year. Trust me, go to the head of the class. You’ll be glad you did. If you just like to take snapshots, the aforementioned is not necessary.
I’ve been doing photography for about 12 years now... (show quote)


I also use Microcenter to custom build my desktops. I always add extra cooling fans and make sure they are silent. My reasons follow comments already made. I am using two of them right now.

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Jul 16, 2022 10:38:06   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
PHRubin wrote:
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind folks a Canon were kind enough to send me a link to download the user's manual to review while I wait.

In reading it I find I need an adapter for my flash as well as for my old lenses. When I tried to download and install DPP 4 with the codec for the R7 RAW files, I find I need a newer computer. Mine is still running Windows 7 and 10 is the minimum requirement. Yes, Windows 10 can be installed on it, but it slows the thing way down. Also, I'm still using a 19" flat-screen VGA monitor.

When I got this computer years ago, I was angry that my copy of MS Office as well as Quicken and my scanner were too old for it. I can only guess what I'm using on my PC now that won't be compatible with a new computer.

Yes, you may say I live on the trailing edge of technology.
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind ... (show quote)


You know, you could simplify things and just shoot JPEG and all this goes away

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Jul 16, 2022 11:06:26   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
PHRubin wrote:
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind folks a Canon were kind enough to send me a link to download the user's manual to review while I wait.

In reading it I find I need an adapter for my flash as well as for my old lenses. When I tried to download and install DPP 4 with the codec for the R7 RAW files, I find I need a newer computer. Mine is still running Windows 7 and 10 is the minimum requirement. Yes, Windows 10 can be installed on it, but it slows the thing way down. Also, I'm still using a 19" flat-screen VGA monitor.

When I got this computer years ago, I was angry that my copy of MS Office as well as Quicken and my scanner were too old for it. I can only guess what I'm using on my PC now that won't be compatible with a new computer.

Yes, you may say I live on the trailing edge of technology.
I am on the waiting list for a Canon R7. The kind ... (show quote)


I hate those flash adapters, often required on camcorders. I bought one for a Sony, but it didn't fit. What happened to standardization. I also find it annoying when an old version of software won't open files made with the new version.

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