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Jul 3, 2022 11:53:13   #
samantha90 Loc: Fort Worth,Texas
 
I know it is all about the tilt of earth. Forecast here in Texas is 100+every day this week. Doesn't seem right.



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Jul 3, 2022 12:09:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Well, one could look at the ≈3.3% distance difference between summer and winter as either giving us cooler summers or warmer winters compared to the other.
Happens every year.

I wonder how much cooler we might be in the Winter if it was a circular orbit at 94,500,000.
Or warmer in the Summer if it was 91,400,000.

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Jul 3, 2022 12:50:43   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
samantha90 wrote:
I know it is all about the tilt of earth. Forecast here in Texas is 100+every day this week. Doesn't seem right.


Just think what your summers would be like if our earths axial tilt was opposite of the 23 or so degrees it is now.

Or does a mere 3 billion miles of space even matter with the amount of radiation the sun emits.

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Jul 3, 2022 13:13:55   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
pmorin wrote:
Just think what your summers would be like if our earths axial tilt was opposite of the 23 or so degrees it is now.

Or does a mere 3 billion miles of space even matter with the amount of radiation the sun emits.

Wouldn't we just swap Winter and Summer?

(Million, not billion. Probably not.)

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Jul 3, 2022 16:35:22   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
pmorin wrote:
Just think what your summers would be like if our earths axial tilt was opposite of the 23 or so degrees it is now.

Or does a mere 3 billion miles of space even matter with the amount of radiation the sun emits.


Just wait a while.

The axis of the earth precesses so that that 23.5 degrees goes around. I don't remember how long it takes, but it's like 27,000 years. So 13,500 years from now northern summer will be when the earth is closest to the sun.

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Jul 3, 2022 18:15:47   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Thank goodness we weren't any closer!!

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Jul 3, 2022 18:19:08   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
Longshadow wrote:
Wouldn't we just swap Winter and Summer?

(Million, not billion. Probably not.)


Correction noted

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Jul 3, 2022 18:20:22   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Just wait a while.

The axis of the earth precesses so that that 23.5 degrees goes around. I don't remember how long it takes, but it's like 27,000 years. So 13,500 years from now northern summer will be when the earth is closest to the sun.


And it will probably only make a difference on the calendar

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Jul 4, 2022 08:03:29   #
JimmyTB
 
I guess those living down under have warmer summers and cooler winters because of that same fact.

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Jul 4, 2022 09:39:47   #
Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca
 
Closest to sun in January, yet very cold, farthest in July yet warmer,go figure

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Jul 4, 2022 09:43:08   #
Dannj
 
I guess 3,000.000 miles doesn’t make much difference😳

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Jul 4, 2022 09:44:26   #
Verryl
 
The sun-earth distance makes much less difference in the seasons than the angle due to the tilt of the earth's axis, which is 23.5 degrees. When a hemisphere, N or S is tilted toward the sun the sun's energy is more direct; when tilted away it is spread over a wider area, and thus less intense. That effect of the tilt is much more important that 3% in distance, especially because the distance effect is further reduced by the inverse square law: 3% squared is 0.0009 or .09%, trivial compared to the spreading out of the "same" sun rays over the larger earth surface area when the axis is tilted at the extreme, i.e., at winter.

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Jul 4, 2022 09:56:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Fotoserj wrote:
Closest to sun in January, yet very cold, farthest in July yet warmer,go figure

Due to the tilt of the earth's axis.
It probably would be colder in the Winter and warmer in the Summer than it is now if the Earth had a circular orbit.
If we didn't have the tilt of the Earth there would not be seasonal changes.

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Jul 4, 2022 10:37:25   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
NASA has been exploring the possibility of sending a probe to the sun for scientific purposes. The astrophysicist has determined that the probe would burn up before landing, however, the rocket scientists have determined that they would need to land the probe at night when the sun is sleeping. 😜

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Jul 4, 2022 10:42:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
NASA has been exploring the possibility of sending a probe to the sun for scientific purposes. The astrophysicist has determined that the probe would burn up before landing, however, the rocket scientists have determined that they would need to land the probe at night when the sun is sleeping. 😜

Amazing what they are teaching in schools these days...

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