SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Sorry but you’re wrong. DSLR’s are done. Oh they’ll keep working fine but there will be no new development. It just doesn’t make sense for them to keep making DSLR’s. Yes they still have a ways to go before they have as robust a lens lineup as they do for DSLR’s but they’ve come a long way in the past few years and the fact is those lenses will work as well and in some cases better using adapters. As for prices, good lenses have never been cheap. I don’t see how anyone could complain about a quality 800mm lens for $1000, even if it is f/11. And yes that great Nikon 400 f/2.8 with the built in 1.4 TC is pricey, but the F mount version isn’t much less and lacks the TC.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Your future self will thank you for buying a mirrorless camera today.

jefrid

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via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

I cannot figure out why you wrote this in response to my reply to the poster. I'm not advocating for any one camera, they are all good in their own way. Some do one thing better than another, but in the end it's about what the photographer wants from his or her camera and can it deliver, assuming the photographer knows how to make that happen. I'm not "into" simply buying equipment because everyone else is, my purchase is generally based on what it is I want to achieve with any piece of equipment. And, BTW, I'm with you on the "Paul thing" but I don't thing you can stop him. He is annoying and I simply pass by his comments as they are often useless.

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

Your facts are incorrect. For example, the new Nikon 400/2.8 with a 1.4 TC, available only in mirrorless version, is $ 14k. I know, I have one! The Z9 is a D850 AND a D6 in one package, but on a huge dose of steroids (IMHO)!! For sports, the Z9 shines, period. As with film bodies, some DSLRs will continue to be produced, but you can expect the pro level bodies to go away not too far in the future. If you want to continue to flail your arms and resist, that is just fine, but you will be left behind quickly. I am also a pro sports guy and I have completely switched to mirrorless bodies. Nikon makes enough stellar Mirrorless lenses to allow that, with more to come. Best of luck.

Nickaroo

I bought the Nikon Z7II and now the Z9. I will be fine, but I have organized A 3 HighSchool deal with the School District to form a Teaching about Photography. So far all of my Students are equipped with New Mirrorless Cameras. But, my Fear is that others will not be able to get their hands on this equipment in the next set of Seniors to use in My Class. Now, I have told you that you are always posting the right replies. Well, if you think that a 800mm F/11 Lens is good, Come’on Man, you know that the Lens is not good at all. Rather, I would consider it to be on a Shelf near You at Your Local Walmart. I just feel that the demand for DSLR’s will be around for about 5-7 years and there will be Enthusiasts will provide a demand for DSLR’s. So do not believe what you hear or see from a Press Release. Corporate will always do what is needed to give them A Profit to show Shareholders that they will do whatever it takes to pay dividends or increase in the value of the shares. Now, like I said, I have gone Mirrorless already but I will never part with my D5, D850, D500 or D6. So you stated that they are not going to produce DSLR’s, well Nikon is still kicking D6’s and D850’s out on the Production Lines. So, please let me know what you think as I respect your honesty when it comes to Equipment that we use.

BebuLamar

I don't buy into the mirrorless but I think they will stop making DSLR and their lenses soon rather than few more years. I think they have stopped production on many of the models that are still in their line up. They just sell off whatever they have.

Nickaroo

They are still producing the Nikon D6 and the D850. People still want DSLR's and I happen to Love My Z9, but my D850 and D6 along with My Crop-Sensor D500 can produce Images that are on par with the Sony A1, Canon R3, and the Nikon Z9. I just feel that these Manufacturers are going to have push back from Photogs of all Genres and uses for a decent Camera and they don't want to take the time to learn a Mirrorless System or have to buy expensive Memory Cards like CF Express or QXD's. Tell me what You think. Nikon moved into a New Plant in Taiwan to have the ability, if it arises, to kick Production of DSLR's once again. I do have a friend that is a Nikon Rep. and he has even told me that nothing is a done deal in this crazy World of Photography. It would be a lot cheaper for People to come up with $2900.00 for a D850 than $5700-7000 for a Mirrorless. Remember this by the end of the Final Shareholders report that comes out by next March.

Nickaroo

I know what you are saying, but my Nephew who knows nothing about Photography and Cameras bought 15 D500's, 20 D850's, and 10 780's, and finally 10 D5's. He has sold some of them to People in Israel where Our Family is from and they paid him the first and actual price for some of these Cameras because they can't seem to get their hands on certain Models. He bought the D500's for 1200 a piece and sold 8 0f them for 1600 here in the U.S. and 3 to the Middle East for 2400 bucks. I guess that there are problems in Dubai and Saudi Arabia with people not being able to get USA products due to shipping backups and these People already have Money to burn. In fact, every Baby that is Born In Kuwait or the other 2 aforementioned Countries get 1.5-2.5 Million Dollars in a Trust Account for them and it pays Interest so they will actually have 2.5 times that much when they are 18yrs. Old. I personally know a Kid that is attending the University Of Michigan, where I Graduated From, and He showed me what the Government back Home wants of Him and He Does it. He can spend whatever He wants and He just Bought a new Loft in Ann Arbor for $550,000 in cash.

BebuLamar

I don't think they make neither the D6 or D850 any more. They are busy making the Z9 now.

Nickaroo

I guess that we will see.

Nickaroo

I told You straight up that I Own A Z9 and A Z7II., what part of my message is unclear. I'am under Contract with the NCAA and I shoot Michigan Football and Michigan Basketball and I mix Hockey in and Baseball. I'am involved in the Recruitment Areas and I help work the Bench for the High Profile Games. But, this Year I ventured off to also shoot Women's Softball and Basketball. I use my 600mm f/4 on my Z9 with the New FTZII adapter. I have a 400mm f/2.8 and I use a 1.7 teleconverter that lens to my D850. I have My 500mm 5.6 attached to my D500 and for day games I use My D500 with a 1.4 Teleconverter, which is the TC1.4 III and really does not degrade IQ. I float different lenses to my D6, which I really don't need to use on Game days, but if I do break i t out I just use my 600mm f/4., So Do Not Look at Me As Someone Flailing Their Arms. I'm pretty much up to Par with My Lenses and I have been at this level for 43 yrs. now, Shoot I'am getting Old. LOL

Nickaroo

I re-read Your Reply and You really turned my BrainBox On. It's Because You put Your Reply with A Very Heartfelt and Positive Manner. I have stated Many Times that ALL OF THE MANUFACTURES ARE PUTTING GREAT EQUIPMENT FOR US TO CHOOSE FROM. If You want to know who I think is a great Company, I would tell You FUJI, look at their Color Resolution. And I think that they are shooting to be the "Poor Man's Leica". My Friend uses on of their latest for shooting Street Photography in New York. We grew up together in Queens and He taught me a lot after I Graduated with a Degree in Forensics. This Friend of mine is nothing short of being a Geek that really knows Photography and how to edit the most difficult Images. He drives me nuts because I invite Him back to Michigan twice a Year for a Game and he has a Key to My Loft and My Wife leaves Notes on things and He just does not listen, but by the Time I roll in, he has totally reorganized my LRC CC Catalogue and then edits Photos based on the difficulty. Oh well, as long as does good work then it does not matter to me.

Nickaroo

It already has with the Z9. I'm truly Sorry for some things that I said towards You in another Thread. Paul You are a very educated Man and You do help Many People with Your Knowledge on Post Processing and You are Correct about Mirrorless Cameras, but I think that due to People needing better Performance, then they need to get on the Information HWY. And discover that they will have to invest into the Future if they want to stick to a Great Photographer or just a Average kind of Photographer that will only do so much. Please accept My Sincere Apology, I'am not afraid to say that I was wrong for the way that I responded to You.

ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA

Thank you to all who responded to my query. Your comments added to both sides of the pro/con seesaw that I had been mulling over for months.

This week I received the word that my name had reached the top of the wait list, and a Z9 was available. I declined. Here’s why:

1) weight. One of the (few) things I am good at is BIF with my current D500/500mm PF, and I was not looking forward to adding to the heft.

2) FX reach. Yes, the Z9 has a DX mode, but I already have that.

3) New camera to learn. I know that will have to happen sometime, but not today.

4) Taking shorter trips with the money. Hitting Cape May this September.

5) Price and other spending priorities. Jeez, $5,500 is a lot of money.

I know that every time I see an out-of-focus shot, I will have my doubts, but the Z9 or its brothers will always be out there if I change my mind.

Be well, and stay cool.