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Jul 2, 2022 23:28:48   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
Since you’re on a rant, I’ll tell you mine. People writing like they text, using abbreviations instead of words and so on. I especially dislike “prolly” being used instead of probably. And using the former only saves two letters!

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Jul 2, 2022 23:33:50   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
Since you’re on a rant, I’ll tell you mine. People writing like they text, using abbreviations instead of words and so on. I especially dislike “prolly” being used instead of probably. And using the former only saves two letters!

I definitely agree!!!

Do they maybe think it's cute??? They're cool???

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Jul 3, 2022 00:41:02   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Longshadow wrote:
To me, thread/conversation are synonymous. The thread contains the conversation.

"Glass", a cutesy affectionate term coined by somebody, somewhen...
Goes in the category with "Panny", "Oly", and all the other cutesy terms people think are "cool".

I use the word "lens".


I don't know what your work background is/was. I worked for an industry leading data processing company for nearly 40 years. I started out working in printing and shipping while I was still in school. I retired as a lead programmer analyst. I designed and wrote software in multiple languages, and I designed data structures and even databases. The term thread, as used here, comes from the data processing world. To me, a thread is not a conversation, it's just a part of the data that links the records together, an element within the conversation, not the conversation.

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Jul 3, 2022 00:58:46   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
burkphoto wrote:
To me, the entirety of current conversation topics on UHH is a business cocktail party in a hotel ballroom with many groups chatting all at once. A general conversation is the topic. A thread is one continuous stream of discussion about that topic. UHH contains many threads wrapped around the same conversation.

Conversation: How to use flash

Thread 1: How to use flash with a lighting tent for macro (started on date ___/___/___)
Thread 2: How to use flash with a lighting tent for macro (started on date ___/___/___)
Thread: How to use flash for portraiture
Thread: How to use flash fill in daylight
Thread: How to use flash with various light modifiers

…and so it goes.

I don't get hung up on slang, as I've been all over the USA doing training. Different people in different regions with different backgrounds and generational references use language differently. If you read between the lines, use a dictionary and thesaurus (right click on a word on the Mac and you can look it up), and ask for clarification, you learn something new.

What is annoying to some is common parlance for others. Just because it is different does not make it wrong or inferior, any more than speaking a different language makes someone wrong or inferior. Arguing over whether a bleeding man got "double tapped" or received two gunshot wounds does nothing to save his life...
To me, the entirety of current conversation topics... (show quote)


You have an interesting imagination. We come from different worlds. I too traveled for work from time to time, but also travelled a whole lot by phone. I conducted and sat in on many, many conference calls. Since I was dealing with people on a more professional level, colloquialisms usually weren't an issue. When working with software and data that's used to track and manipulate virtually billions of dollars of other people's money, there's no reading between the lines.
To me the examples you used are not threads, they are topics or bullet items. To me a thread is a group of pointers woven through the data, a piece of the data, not the entirety of the data, and yes, I understand what you are saying.

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Jul 3, 2022 01:14:16   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
RichinSeattle wrote:
I agree about "capture." Someone here recently said it's appropriate because we capture a moment in time. Well many of the greatest painters (artists) did the same thing. Look at Rembrandt's "The Night Watch," Picasso's "Guernica," or any of Renoir's many pictures of people and their activities. The difference, of course, is that painters work long and hard at making their pix, while we photogs just click, download, maybe manipulate, and send. The best photo images are made, not captured.
I agree about "capture." Someone here r... (show quote)


In my mind, cameras don't capture anything; they record images by sensing and recording light. When you capture something, you either keep it or let it go. If someone captures a bird, they have to either care for it or it will die, or let it go. You can record a moment in time, make a record of it which is a copy, but you can't capture it. That moment in time only existed at that moment in time and once it has happened, it is in the past, gone, and with current technology, never being visited again. What the camera is doing is recording, not capturing.
That's like filming with a digital camera. How can one film something without film?!

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Jul 3, 2022 03:49:48   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
According to Mirriam-Webster (Bolding mine):


Definition of thread

(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : a filament, a group of filaments twisted together, or a filamentous length formed by spinning and twisting short textile fibers into a continuous strand
b : a piece of thread
2a : any of various natural filaments the threads of a spiderweb
b : a slender stream (as of water)
c : a projecting helical rib (as in a fitting or on a pipe) by which parts can be screwed together : screw thread
3 : something continuous or drawn out: such as
a : a line of reasoning or train of thought that connects the parts in a sequence (as of ideas or events) lost the thread of the story
b : a continuing element a thread of melancholy marked all his writing
c : a series of electronic messages (as on a message board or social media website) following a single topic or in response to a single message

I see a conversation as happening between two or more people, in person, or perhaps online, but vocal. Google calls their email messages conversations. I disagree.

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Jul 3, 2022 05:17:12   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
A nifty fifty is a honda 50cc step through type scooter or something to do with the stock exchange.

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Jul 3, 2022 05:34:21   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
chrissybabe wrote:
A nifty fifty is a honda 50cc step through type scooter or something to do with the stock exchange.


A "nifty fifty" (in the photography world) is one specific Canon lens, so-called because it is an excellent lens at a very favorable price. It is not just any 50mm lens!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Jul 3, 2022 05:38:20   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
rlv567 wrote:
A "nifty fifty" (in the photography world) is one specific Canon lens, so-called because it is an excellent lens at a very favorable price. It is not just any 50mm lens!
Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City


You should update the entries in wikipedia where a nifty fifty is described as "Normal lens with a focal length of 50 mm". No mention of Canon

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Jul 3, 2022 06:50:29   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
chrissybabe wrote:
You should update the entries in wikipedia where a nifty fifty is described as "Normal lens with a focal length of 50 mm". No mention of Canon


And Wikipedia (or anything on the Internet) always is right??? Are you in the market for a bridge in Brooklyn??? I can get you one - really cheap.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City



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Jul 3, 2022 07:15:59   #
cdayton
 
The use of “glass” for “lens” is an example of a synecdoche. Just saying.

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Jul 3, 2022 07:39:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I don't know what your work background is/was. I worked for an industry leading data processing company for nearly 40 years. I started out working in printing and shipping while I was still in school. I retired as a lead programmer analyst. I designed and wrote software in multiple languages, and I designed data structures and even databases. The term thread, as used here, comes from the data processing world. To me, a thread is not a conversation, it's just a part of the data that links the records together, an element within the conversation, not the conversation.
I don't know what your work background is/was. I w... (show quote)

Component Test Engineer.
I wrote test programs on automated testing equipment to test ICs and semiconductors for Incoming Inspection (II). Also analyzed failure modes for components in systems test and the field. I also created a database for II to track Rejection and Disposition Notices that Card Test, Systems Test, and Purchasing also wound up utilizing.

"Thread" can mean different things to different people, depending on the context in which it is used.
Context being programming; message boards; sewing; ...
I don't subscribe to only one hard and fast meaning of thread.

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Jul 3, 2022 07:55:35   #
Stephan G
 
Longshadow wrote:


One captures an event/situation/view with a camera.
However, I'll almost always say "Nice shot."

But maybe in the near future I'll have to start using the word capture to be PC.


It will depend on what kind of snare and bait you will use.

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Jul 3, 2022 07:57:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Stephan G wrote:
It will depend on what kind of snare and bait you will use.


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Jul 3, 2022 08:03:28   #
Stephan G
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Why go so many people say thread instead of conversation. Using the word thread in place of conversation just reduces it to data, instead of human verbal/visual interaction, thus dehumanizing the whole conversation. I understand what thread means, I was a database and software designer for over thirty years, and to me, thread is only an element within a conversation, not the conversation.
Another pretentious word, glass in place of lens. The glass is only part of a lens, not the lens as a whole. Another one is, capture, instead of photo or photograph. Anyone else have any good examples that fit my rambling...
Why go so many people say thread instead of conver... (show quote)


Wait until you run into idioms!


Conversational threads existed long before computers, BTW. (Cautionary tale: Avoiding Elisions.)


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