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Jul 2, 2022 16:09:13   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Why go so many people say thread instead of conversation. Using the word thread in place of conversation just reduces it to data, instead of human verbal/visual interaction, thus dehumanizing the whole conversation. I understand what thread means, I was a database and software designer for over thirty years, and to me, thread is only an element within a conversation, not the conversation.
Another pretentious word, glass in place of lens. The glass is only part of a lens, not the lens as a whole. Another one is, capture, instead of photo or photograph. Anyone else have any good examples that fit my rambling...

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Jul 2, 2022 16:13:42   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Why go so many people say thread instead of conversation. Using the word thread in place of conversation just reduces it to data, instead of human verbal/visual interaction, thus dehumanizing the whole conversation. I understand what thread means, I was a database and software designer for over thirty years, and to me, thread is only an element within a conversation, not the conversation.
Another pretentious word, glass in place of lens. The glass is only part of a lens, not the lens as a whole. Another one is, capture, instead of photo or photograph. Anyone else have any good examples that fit my rambling...
Why go so many people say thread instead of conver... (show quote)


I dislike the term nifty fifty.

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Jul 2, 2022 16:19:15   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Mac wrote:
I dislike the term nifty fifty.


I agree, as nifty fifty was coined to describe a specific lens and not all 50mm lenses.

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Jul 2, 2022 16:30:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mac wrote:
I dislike the term nifty fifty.


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Jul 2, 2022 16:38:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
To me, thread/conversation are synonymous. The thread contains the conversation.

"Glass", a cutesy affectionate term coined by somebody, somewhen...
Goes in the category with "Panny", "Oly", and all the other cutesy terms people think are "cool".

I use the word "lens".

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Jul 2, 2022 16:50:12   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Why go so many people say thread instead of conversation. Using the word thread in place of conversation just reduces it to data, instead of human verbal/visual interaction, thus dehumanizing the whole conversation. I understand what thread means, I was a database and software designer for over thirty years, and to me, thread is only an element within a conversation, not the conversation.
Another pretentious word, glass in place of lens. The glass is only part of a lens, not the lens as a whole. Another one is, capture, instead of photo or photograph. Anyone else have any good examples that fit my rambling...
Why go so many people say thread instead of conver... (show quote)


To me, the entirety of current conversation topics on UHH is a business cocktail party in a hotel ballroom with many groups chatting all at once. A general conversation is the topic. A thread is one continuous stream of discussion about that topic. UHH contains many threads wrapped around the same conversation.

Conversation: How to use flash

Thread 1: How to use flash with a lighting tent for macro (started on date ___/___/___)
Thread 2: How to use flash with a lighting tent for macro (started on date ___/___/___)
Thread: How to use flash for portraiture
Thread: How to use flash fill in daylight
Thread: How to use flash with various light modifiers

…and so it goes.

I don't get hung up on slang, as I've been all over the USA doing training. Different people in different regions with different backgrounds and generational references use language differently. If you read between the lines, use a dictionary and thesaurus (right click on a word on the Mac and you can look it up), and ask for clarification, you learn something new.

What is annoying to some is common parlance for others. Just because it is different does not make it wrong or inferior, any more than speaking a different language makes someone wrong or inferior. Arguing over whether a bleeding man got "double tapped" or received two gunshot wounds does nothing to save his life...

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Jul 2, 2022 16:52:38   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:


I dislike the term "normal" just as much as "nifty fifty," but I know what you mean, either way.

However, I can't come up with a better one.

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Jul 2, 2022 16:56:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
To me, the entirety of current conversation topics on UHH is a business cocktail party in a hotel ballroom with many groups chatting all at once. A general conversation is the topic. A thread is one continuous stream of discussion about that topic. UHH contains many threads wrapped around the same conversation.

Conversation: How to use flash

Thread 1: How to use flash with a lighting tent for macro (started on date ___/___/___)
Thread 2: How to use flash with a lighting tent for macro (started on date ___/___/___)
Thread: How to use flash for portraiture
Thread: How to use flash fill in daylight
Thread: How to use flash with various light modifiers

…and so it goes.

I don't get hung up on slang, as I've been all over the USA doing training. Different people in different regions with different backgrounds and generational references use language differently. If you read between the lines, use a dictionary and thesaurus (right click on a word on the Mac and you can look it up), and ask for clarification, you learn something new.

What is annoying to some is common parlance for others. Just because it is different does not make it wrong or inferior, any more than speaking a different language makes someone wrong or inferior. Arguing over whether a bleeding man got "double tapped" or received two gunshot wounds does nothing to save his life...
To me, the entirety of current conversation topics... (show quote)

Hahaha - Does the phrase "Tap a MAC." mean one is getting the information from their Apple computer?

Or shooting one's Apple computer......

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Jul 2, 2022 17:02:12   #
RichinSeattle
 
I agree about "capture." Someone here recently said it's appropriate because we capture a moment in time. Well many of the greatest painters (artists) did the same thing. Look at Rembrandt's "The Night Watch," Picasso's "Guernica," or any of Renoir's many pictures of people and their activities. The difference, of course, is that painters work long and hard at making their pix, while we photogs just click, download, maybe manipulate, and send. The best photo images are made, not captured.

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Jul 2, 2022 17:07:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
RichinSeattle wrote:
I agree about "capture." Someone here recently said it's appropriate because we capture a moment in time. Well many of the greatest painters (artists) did the same thing. Look at Rembrandt's "The Night Watch," Picasso's "Guernica," or any of Renoir's many pictures of people and their activities. The difference, of course, is that painters work long and hard at making their pix, while we photogs just click, download, maybe manipulate, and send. The best photo images are made, not captured.
I agree about "capture." Someone here r... (show quote)

Well, one does capture the shot. What is done to the "capture" afterwards, well...
The end product may not be what was "captured".

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Jul 2, 2022 17:21:44   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I do NOT like the word capture either and I was going to show them ( the people who used it) how wrong they were. I looked it up. They are correct in using the word capture in sense of taking a picture! Don't believe me - Look it up

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Jul 2, 2022 17:35:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
tramsey wrote:
I do NOT like the word capture either and I was going to show them ( the people who used it) how wrong they were. I looked it up. They are correct in using the word capture in sense of taking a picture! Don't believe me - Look it up



One captures an event/situation/view with a camera.
However, I'll almost always say "Nice shot."

But maybe in the near future I'll have to start using the word capture to be PC.

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Jul 2, 2022 18:39:31   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
burkphoto wrote:
I dislike the term "normal" just as much as "nifty fifty," but I know what you mean, either way.

However, I can't come up with a better one.


How about 50mm lens.

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Jul 2, 2022 18:45:55   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote:
Goes in the category with "Panny", "Oly", and all the other cutesy terms people think are "cool".


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Jul 2, 2022 18:46:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mac wrote:
How about 50mm lens.

Works for me!

"Normal" is relative to the format.

Then again, MY "normal" is an 18-200.
That's the one normally on my camera.

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