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Jul 2, 2022 05:33:09   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
greekd214 wrote:
I am in the process of scanning old photographs that my parents had in albums, some picture going back to the early 1900's with pictures of my parents when they were in their teens and my grandparents, plus other members of my family back in the early 20th century. After I scan and label this pictures, I am torn as to weather I should toss the pictures, or continue to save them. I'm pretty sure when I'm gone, my kids will inherit these and most likely will throw them out. I will be transferring these photos to various forms of digital storage; SD card, flash drives, external hard drives etc. So, should I save my kids the job of throwing these pictures out or should I hang on to them for a little longer. We're talking hundreds of photos by the way. Trying to purge as much as I can. Thanks.
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If your kids want to TOSS the photo's, then that's up to them. I would not toss them, go down 6 feet knowing you did the right thing.

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Jul 2, 2022 06:23:52   #
alexol
 
Why not scan them now for you and pass on the hard copies as soon as scanned?

This gives you what you want - digital versions and more space - and your kids or other relatives will have the photos and the benefit of your commentary on them.

Of course, they may or may not be interested, in
which case they can make their own decision as to what to do with them.

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Jul 2, 2022 06:40:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
greekd214 wrote:
I am in the process of scanning old photographs that my parents had in albums, some picture going back to the early 1900's with pictures of my parents when they were in their teens and my grandparents, plus other members of my family back in the early 20th century. After I scan and label this pictures, I am torn as to weather I should toss the pictures, or continue to save them. I'm pretty sure when I'm gone, my kids will inherit these and most likely will throw them out. I will be transferring these photos to various forms of digital storage; SD card, flash drives, external hard drives etc. So, should I save my kids the job of throwing these pictures out or should I hang on to them for a little longer. We're talking hundreds of photos by the way. Trying to purge as much as I can. Thanks.
I am in the process of scanning old photographs th... (show quote)


Save them.
Ask around now if kids want them.
If not nieces, nephews, grand kids or other family members.
If no takers ask the local museum, library or historical society
The Williamsport, PA library has thousands of such old photos and that is where we found old original photos of our 1895 house and what it looked like then. The house was quite different and the property amazingly different.
Also found what the original owner looked like.

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Jul 2, 2022 06:41:43   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
alexol wrote:
Why not scan them now for you and pass on the hard copies as soon as scanned?

This gives you what you want - digital versions and more space - and your kids or other relatives will have the photos and the benefit of your commentary on them.

Of course, they may or may not be interested, in
which case they can make their own decision as to what to do with them.


My first wife was an archivist, and beat into me: "Always save the original". Offer the originals to your kids. If they decline, try other relatives.

There is no hardware or software that is so perfect that future improvements cannot be made.

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Jul 2, 2022 07:25:35   #
Grey Ghost
 
You might as well keep them. Not your problem after your gone!!

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Jul 2, 2022 08:41:50   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
greekd214 wrote:
I am in the process of scanning old photographs that my parents had in albums, some picture going back to the early 1900's with pictures of my parents when they were in their teens and my grandparents, plus other members of my family back in the early 20th century. After I scan and label this pictures, I am torn as to weather I should toss the pictures, or continue to save them. I'm pretty sure when I'm gone, my kids will inherit these and most likely will throw them out. I will be transferring these photos to various forms of digital storage; SD card, flash drives, external hard drives etc. So, should I save my kids the job of throwing these pictures out or should I hang on to them for a little longer. We're talking hundreds of photos by the way. Trying to purge as much as I can. Thanks.
I am in the process of scanning old photographs th... (show quote)


If they can be ID'd with names dates and locations, a museum may want your prints and negatives.

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Jul 2, 2022 09:21:20   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
greekd214 wrote:
I am in the process of scanning old photographs that my parents had in albums, some picture going back to the early 1900's with pictures of my parents when they were in their teens and my grandparents, plus other members of my family back in the early 20th century. After I scan and label this pictures, I am torn as to weather I should toss the pictures, or continue to save them. I'm pretty sure when I'm gone, my kids will inherit these and most likely will throw them out. I will be transferring these photos to various forms of digital storage; SD card, flash drives, external hard drives etc. So, should I save my kids the job of throwing these pictures out or should I hang on to them for a little longer. We're talking hundreds of photos by the way. Trying to purge as much as I can. Thanks.
I am in the process of scanning old photographs th... (show quote)


Waiting too long to pass things on to your kids can be a big mistake. I'm almost 72. My dad is still alive and still holding on to all the stuff he has promised to me and to my siblings. Some of it was pretty notable...a Steinway piano, some nice china, some nice furniture, you get the idea. We each figured out quite a while ago how it was going to work and bought our own things. I no longer want or need the piano...the one I bought is nicer and now much more familiar to me. Not sure how I feel about the Kodachromes now, but there was a time when I would have liked to have some of them, which he hasn't viewed in 50 years. Same with "baby books" and similar materials.

Just a thought from the other side of the equation...

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Jul 2, 2022 09:22:29   #
JimBart Loc: Western Michigan
 
In doing genealogy searches on family history I like seeing the original shots as they mean more. I’d recommend keeping them and and see if anyone is doing a family search

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Jul 2, 2022 09:56:38   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
greekd214 wrote:
I am in the process of scanning old photographs that my parents had in albums, some picture going back to the early 1900's with pictures of my parents when they were in their teens and my grandparents, plus other members of my family back in the early 20th century. After I scan and label this pictures, I am torn as to weather I should toss the pictures, or continue to save them. I'm pretty sure when I'm gone, my kids will inherit these and most likely will throw them out. I will be transferring these photos to various forms of digital storage; SD card, flash drives, external hard drives etc. So, should I save my kids the job of throwing these pictures out or should I hang on to them for a little longer. We're talking hundreds of photos by the way. Trying to purge as much as I can. Thanks.
I am in the process of scanning old photographs th... (show quote)


How can you even consider discarding historical original prints? I think you're just trying to generate a hot topic discussion.

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Jul 2, 2022 10:06:17   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
larryepage wrote:
Waiting too long to pass things on to your kids can be a big mistake. I'm almost 72. My dad is still alive and still holding on to all the stuff he has promised to me and to my siblings. Some of it was pretty notable...a Steinway piano, some nice china, some nice furniture, you get the idea. We each figured out quite a while ago how it was going to work and bought our own things. I no longer want or need the piano...the one I bought is nicer and now much more familiar to me. Not sure how I feel about the Kodachromes now, but there was a time when I would have liked to have some of them, which he hasn't viewed in 50 years. Same with "baby books" and similar materials.

Just a thought from the other side of the equation...
Waiting too long to pass things on to your kids ca... (show quote)


My parents started distributing nearly 30 years before they passed.
When finally passed house, car and mostly personal items were left. It allowed the children and grand children to enjoy the things.
No they did not downsize the house, but moved off the ranch to a small 1 acre lot in Cottonwood, AZ.

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Jul 2, 2022 10:19:43   #
GreenReaper
 
Not quite in the same boat. We’ve recently moved and to save space I went through all the negs, slides and photo’s I’ve accumulated over the past 50 years. Some I haven’t looked at for 49 years time to clean things out. I digitized all the thirty-five mm films, went through all the photos. I literally tossed out close to sixty pounds of stuff. I’ve stored it all on an external HD plus backed up to two different cloud accounts. Our daughter in law has full access to these accounts to fill out there family albums. I have no regrets as to the direction I’ve gone. Next project is all the music CDs we’ve accumulated through the years!

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Jul 2, 2022 11:08:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I tend to toss nothing! I keep all the pictures that I scan. I figure scanning is the backup, and the pictures are the originals. I also scan - or download - instruction manuals, but I would never toss the manuals.

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Jul 2, 2022 11:12:08   #
Jesu S
 
awesome14 wrote:
Always err on the side of preservation. Once they're gone they're gone for good! But they can always be disposed of. I really don't understand where all the work comes in in disposing of hundreds of photos. It's just not a very difficult task no matter how you look at it. That is one medium-sized box that must be carried to the trash! What could be simpler?

Your concern for your children is admirable, but don't sell them short. I don't think they would consider one box of trash a major inconvenience! It's hardly even worth mentioning! So, I think you're after a different answer such as, "Do adult children typically value photos of their ancestors?"

Yes, they typically do, unless the parent has been the worst parent, and indulged the child in every way! Spoiled rotten brats care about nothing but what they want in the moment, no matter what that is! They have no nostalgia, because they couldn't care less about anyone but themselves, and others only to the extent that they demonstrate some utility in whatever manipulative game the child wants to play at that moment!

You could do like my father. Pass on mementos--things once owned by deceased members of the family: trinkets, memoirs, photos, figurines, books; insignificant in objective value. In his will he stipulated that for each item of this sort, from a list he supplied to the executor, that each child could produce, (s)he would receive $5,000,000.00 from his portfolio.

That is an excellent way to distribute an estate, because it separates the quality individuals who value their heritage from the greedy, selfish manipulators who will blow their inheritances like drunken sailors! But all without judgment. The descendants judge themselves by their own choices! At least one Bible from the past, of the disposition spoken of above, was given to each child at one time or another.

Those are a favorite of rotten kids to toss almost immediately! He also wrote a quiz regarding his maternal Grandfather's memoirs, of which each child received a copy. Depending on the number of correct answers, a sum was disbursed as a condition of the will!

Once again, children who care about their heritage, and are therefore interested iin perpetuating it, receive more, because the entire purpose of an inheritance is to preserve one's genetic legacy into the future. Otherwise there wouldn't be much point to reproduction. DNA survives or perishes. One or the other, nothing in between. And the goal of each man is to leave in the world part of himself, to make it a better place for everyone!

Famous artists, writers and composers many times forgo reproduction in pursuit of excellence in their craft. They leave behind the beauty of their artistic creations, whereas most people leave it with the beauty of their biological creations! And they want their efforts to have the greatest impact for good for the longest duration possible!

If we make one simple observation of who the most famous people are, they are Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary. The most enduring legacy is the Roman Catholic Church, with over 1700 years of continuous succession of Popes, and a body of law--The Code of Canon Law--in effect for the longest duration in history!

So, if people want their legacies to survive the test of time, they would be wise to emulate those who also have! It is written,

"I AM The Lord your God, Who brought you out of the house of bondage. I am a jealous God, visiting the sins of the the fathers upon the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing lovingkindness down to the thousandh generation of those who love Me and keep My Commandments!"

Which implies that the second group will go on for a 1,000 generations! So, we need ways to divide the wise children from the fools, and subsidize the wise while depriving the foolish! The only thing more laborious to bear than a fool's words are a rich fool's words!

But how does any of this tie into photography? How many times has one sought to behold the likeness of an ancient person, but none exists due to lack of drawing and painting materials in that era! Many people are famous for their likenesses alone, because it was preserved.

No one knows what the future brings. But I anticipate one day the entire gene pool back to the beginning will be mapped! We will be able to identify which individuals originated beneficial genetic mutations. It would be a great asset to that knowledge if the likenesses of these pioneers were preserved, so everyone knew what they looked like when they were alive.

I possess an impressive lineage chart of both sides of my family of origin, together with likenesses of many members, even ancestors who never left europe!

It is a fundamental longing to know who and where we came from, which is testified to by the popularity of gene mapping websites. A perfect fit for that is photographic records! Going into the future, seemingly insignificant personalities from the past may take on grest significence in the present time, and the photographic record is integral to the historical and biographical records!

Those who value not their own ancestral heritage neither value themselves, their country and police wnd military security forces, their race, or anything else of any kind, because they have no gratitude! Gratitude is the strong bulwark of humility, and only arrogance exists without it! Gratitude and humility are essential to truly love one's self and others! Love is what makes life worth living!

Therefore, without gratitude, life is only a series of encounters in which the individual tries to get more for himself than (s)he gives, so as to come out ahead in life! To these, old photos are so much junk, because they have no respect for others, least of all those they came from! Then, to place no value on the likenesses of those one came from is to lack gratitude in general, which is to mwke life not worth living, because one cannot receive love unless (s)he is capable of also giving love!

Maybe I answered a bit more than just the question. But now everyone has an understanding of the concepts involved. Knowledge is power!
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Wow! So, in theory, a child that was estranged from the family but somehow managed to produce a trinket “insignificant in objective value” would receive an inheritance; but a child who may have taken care of his father in his declining years, but could not produce such a trinket, would not!

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Jul 2, 2022 11:17:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Jesu S wrote:
Wow! So, in theory, a child that was estranged from the family but somehow managed to produce a trinket “insignificant in objective value” would receive an inheritance; but a child who may have taken care of his father in his declining years, but could not produce such a trinket, would not!


It's funny you should say that because I have seen that situation repeated. The child who sacrifices and takes care of the elderly parents winds up on the short end of the stick when the parents die. The greedy, selfish kid(s) make sure they get everything they can. Fortunately, my brother and I had no problems when the sad time came, but this seems to be a pattern in so many families - givers and takers.

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Jul 2, 2022 11:29:20   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
I would store the originals in boxes that will help preserve them as well as possible. Who knows what type of digital storage and reading capability will be the standard 20 or 50 years from now. And digital media can be corrupted. The primary reason for scanning the photos is to enable the use f the images in varied types of presentation methods.

Stan

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