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May 26, 2022 06:27:11   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
A rare Leica 0-Series No.105 camera will be going up for sale at the Leitz Photographica Auction in Germany on June 11th.

The camera, produced in 1923, once belonged to Oskar Barnack, the Leitz Company engineer who designed the horizontal transport 35 mm format camera. Barnach started his career at Zeiss before moving to Leica.

The pre-auction estimate is 2-3 million euros.


Another expensive paper weight.

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May 26, 2022 07:34:41   #
Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Wow! Just what I've always wanted, A Leica, pref various owned by the founder of the company! Well, it's old and ugly (like me) but it IS mirrorless! Does anybody around here wanna put in a bid?


Value is also what it's worth to the beholder!

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May 26, 2022 08:33:38   #
rfreudenheim
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
A rare Leica 0-Series No.105 camera will be going up for sale at the Leitz Photographica Auction in Germany on June 11th.

The camera, produced in 1923, once belonged to Oskar Barnack, the Leitz Company engineer who designed the horizontal transport 35 mm format camera. Barnach started his career at Zeiss before moving to Leica.

The pre-auction estimate is 2-3 million euros.

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May 26, 2022 09:10:20   #
trackmag
 
Love the "ice box" comment.

Wish I had kept every camera I ever owned.

Read in WSJ that a 1955 Mercedes SL brought $142,000,000 at auction last week. I have a 1986 SL that still works pretty good but I don't think it will ever be worth $142,000,000. And I really don't think that Yashica that I bought in the ship's store on the USS Newport News CA-148 in the 1960's will ever be worth what that Leica is worth.

Think I will go to the ice box and see if I have any beer.

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May 26, 2022 09:48:12   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I used to think that photograhers, especially the diehard gearheads, were insane in amassing huge inventories of cameras, lenses and accessories that they don't really need. That is until is met a bunch of avid CAMERA COLLECTORS, some of whom are certified "crazy people"! I have seen folks spend inordinate amounts of money on a particular camera to complete a series or specific collection. I know of one case where a guy spent $5,000 on a Contessa Nettle, whatever that is!


In 2008 a lens HOOD for a 21mm Nikon rangefinder lens sold on ebay for $5,555.00 in what was later reported to be a bidding war between the two of the best known Nikon collectors in Japan. Only about 10 of the hoods were known to exist, and this one was in mint condition with its original box in excellent condition. When it's the last item you need to complete your collection . . .

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May 26, 2022 10:06:40   #
philo Loc: philo, ca
 
I would sell my M3 for a lot less.

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May 26, 2022 11:05:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
Talk about money to burn.....


Exactly.

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May 26, 2022 11:06:37   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
trackmag wrote:
< snip > Read in WSJ that a 1955 Mercedes SL brought $142,000,000 at auction last week. < snip >


That particular car was one of only two specially built sports-racing hardtop (gullwing) versions of the 300SLR open top/open wheel Grand Prix race cars that Mercedes was successfully campaigning at the time. Neither of the hardtops had ever been sold, but were extensively tested on road and track over the years. When not being exhibited (and test driven) around the world they were kept in the Mercedes factory collection, until this particular one was sold to raise money for a Mercedes charity project. As a factory car the buyer (anonymous, but reputedly a prominent British collector) presumably became the "original owner" of what will be the only privately owned example of a unique variant of the racing version of one of the most iconic vehicles in automotive history. If you're a car collector who can afford it, that's an item that is practically impossible to resist.

And in case you're wondering, it's a RACE car. It can, and has been, driven on public roads (with the right gears it averaged 176 MPH in a 2-way run on the Autobahn in 1956, probably the fastest road-legal car in the world at the time.) But . . . the clutch and drive shaft are offset to the driver side, and push the brake and accelerator pedals to the right, requiring the driver to basically straddle the drive shaft. Which also ends up reducing passenger foot space. It is reported to be most comfortable to drive wearing ear plugs. And, it has no trunk - just a 45 gallon gas tank. There are also no spare parts available for it, although if you can afford the car you can afford to have parts made, if necessary.

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May 26, 2022 11:32:40   #
sheldon minsky Loc: iron mountain michigan
 
wrangler5 wrote:
That particular car was one of only two specially built sports-racing hardtop (gullwing) versions of the 300SLR open top/open wheel Grand Prix race cars that Mercedes was successfully campaigning at the time. Neither of the hardtops had ever been sold, but were extensively tested on road and track over the years. When not being exhibited (and test driven) around the world they were kept in the Mercedes factory collection, until this particular one was sold to raise money for a Mercedes charity project. As a factory car the buyer (anonymous, but reputedly a prominent British collector) presumably became the "original owner" of what will be the only privately owned example of a unique variant of the racing version of one of the most iconic vehicles in automotive history. If you're a car collector who can afford it, that's an item that is practically impossible to resist.

And in case you're wondering, it's a RACE car. It can, and has been, driven on public roads (with the right gears it averaged 176 MPH in a 2-way run on the Autobahn in 1956, probably the fastest road-legal car in the world at the time.) But . . . the clutch and drive shaft are offset to the driver side, and push the brake and accelerator pedals to the right, requiring the driver to basically straddle the drive shaft. Which also ends up reducing passenger foot space. It is reported to be most comfortable to drive wearing ear plugs. And, it has no trunk - just a 45 gallon gas tank. There are also no spare parts available for it, although if you can afford the car you can afford to have parts made, if necessary.
That particular car was one of only two specially ... (show quote)

Proving that for every pair of pants there is an ass.

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May 26, 2022 11:36:16   #
trackmag
 
Thanks for the additional info.
I love my 1986 560 SL and can not imagine parting with it. Though I put only 400-500 miles a year on it, running some 80 to 120 mph across 23 miles of hills and curves between my place and the golf course.
Some 30 years ago I was driving it across the Texas plains wide open when a cop stopped me and asked how fast the car would run. My reply was something like, "I don't know. I was too busy watching the road to look at the speedometer. He asked me if he I could drive it, to which I replied, "Of course, right now you can do anything you like." He left me in his squad car and came back 20 minutes later and said, "That sucker can really run and handles so good at that speed." He parted with a goodbye and said, "This never happened."
A mate of mine in high school (1958-1961) had one of those gull wing jobs and it was the coolest thing I had ever seen. Again, thanks for the info. It was a great story in the WSJ and your edition makes it even better.

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May 26, 2022 11:43:31   #
dpcarriere
 
Longshadow wrote:
Talk about money to burn.....


It's all relative, all relative indeed.

With $100 in your pocket 10 cents becomes easy to burn.

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May 26, 2022 12:04:38   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
wrangler5 wrote:
In 2008 a lens HOOD for a 21mm Nikon rangefinder lens sold on eBay for $5,555.00 in what was later reported to be a bidding war between the two of the best known Nikon collectors in Japan. Only about 10 of the hoods were known to exist, and this one was in mint condition with its original box in excellent condition. When it's the last item you need to complete your collection . . .


I did say that many collectors are insane. For that kida money, I could go to a metal or plastics fabricator and have them produced in quantity and sell f the for 1/2 price.

I remember when there were a number of "blue books" published that purported to list the values of all collectable cameras. T In someof the books, the prices seemed a bit low and it turned out that the book was published by collectors who wanted to buy below the rea going value.

I am not and was never a collector. The only experience I had was with an interesting old studio camera, on a massive stand, that I picked up at a government surplus auction. It had a film or plate compartment that looked like the cover of a roll-top desk. It was crafted like a beautiful piece of furniture! The ground glass size was around 11x14. It was in absolutely perfect condition. It had a very impressive brass barrel lens with Waterhouse stops. There was no name or insigna anywhere on the body or the stand. I displayed it in my studio storefront window for 10 years- a conversation piece. . One the day, a crazy collector came in for a visit. He owned a photographic distributorship, herein Canada. Crazy, was not the word- he purchased what was left of Peerless Camera in New York and that did not work out well. Nonetheless, he paid me $10,000 for the old camera. I was like the guy who went to the racetrack for the very first time, bet big and scored a fortune but never went back for fear he wouid become a gambling degenerate.

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May 26, 2022 12:56:47   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Not interested. I already have a Leica.
--Bob
MDI Mainer wrote:
A rare Leica 0-Series No.105 camera will be going up for sale at the Leitz Photographica Auction in Germany on June 11th.

The camera, produced in 1923, once belonged to Oskar Barnack, the Leitz Company engineer who designed the horizontal transport 35 mm format camera. Barnach started his career at Zeiss before moving to Leica.

The pre-auction estimate is 2-3 million euros.

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May 26, 2022 14:00:23   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
Bigmike1 wrote:
I would love to have a Leica in my collection but even if I was a billionaire I would not pay that price. Owning that camera is strictly an ego trip.


Ego? How about owning an important piece of history? I own a musical instrument I paid more for than it's worth, nothing ridiculous like seven figures, more like low four, but I didnt' buy it because it's a great instrument or sounds amazing but because it's a rare piece of history. Some folks like to preserve pieces of the past. Some like to mount trophies on the wall. It's a harmless hobby. To each his own.

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May 26, 2022 14:09:15   #
MDI Mainer
 
10MPlayer wrote:
Ego? How about owning an important piece of history? I own a musical instrument I paid more for than it's worth, nothing ridiculous like seven figures, more like low four, but I didnt' buy it because it's a great instrument or sounds amazing but because it's a rare piece of history. Some folks like to preserve pieces of the past. Some like to mount trophies on the wall. It's a harmless hobby. To each his own.


It seems to me in an ideal world this camera deserves to be in a museum accessible to all, not in a private collection. Perhaps someone will buy and either loan or gift it.

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