CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I've had a theory for a while that Canon will create new mirrorless product tiers based on including this feature. With this morning's R7 / R10 announcements, we see maybe this theory in practice. In the upper tier EOS R7 (mirrorless evolution of the EOS 7D-series bodies), we see 32MP, 15 fps mechanical and 30 fps electronic, 2 card slots, and all the technology and weather resistance features of a premier sports / wildlife body with a cropped sensor.

In the EOS R10, we see a lot of advanced technology, including: 24MP, 15 fps mechanical and 23 fps electronic, 1 card slots, Eye-tracking AF. But, in this lighter weight and lower-priced modern technology marvel, we see the IBIS missing along with the mirror.

We saw something similar in Nikon's mirrorless cropped Z50, and the Z fc too. Use IS / VR lenses and you won't miss the camera's missing IBIS. But, if you're looking to consolidate all your lenses, including the legacy lenses back to the film-era, onto a single digital platform, this missing IBIS may remove some of the camera models from consideration.

These cameras from Canon and Nikon differ from Sony's approach where IBIS is a standard feature in all the mirrorless bodies, cropped and full-frame.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I'd like to see more standardization. If IBIS is good, put it in all cameras. All cameras have autofocus now. I hate it when companies leave features out or add features just to play with prices. Sure, you can add special features to high end cameras, but if there is a standard feature that will benefit everyone, it should be in all cameras. Of course, then they would have to decide how to make the high end cameras better, but more MP and fps should cover that. And while we're at it, let's stop making crop sensor bodies. In SLR days, we didn't have 35mm cameras and 23mm cameras.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I thought cropped sensors were done along with mirrors. Oddly no.

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

So these are BOTH cropped sensors ?? What is the best guess for actually SEEING these to BUY ???
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CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

In 5 months they'll represent 64.1% of the US market for cropped sensor cameras in the 2nd half of the calendar year ...

BebuLamar

I thought so too but then Nikon introduced the Z50 and now Canon with the R7 and R10.

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Maybe the bigger question is what lens mount will they have ??

BebuLamar

Question?? Isn't it obvious that they have RF mount?

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Not to ME ....that may be too logical too simple for Canon - think about earlier Canon APSC mirror less swarais !
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Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca

I’m at lost,what’s IBIS stand for ,sorry i have to ask

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

In Body Image Stabilization

Hip Coyote

I recall seeing a transcript of a video from a Canon exec a few years ago who opined that the IBIS (In Body Image Stabilization) was unnecessary in that it was avail on their lenses. I thought it was short sighted then. Of course, they found religion and started putting it in their cameras. The IBIS feature is so beneficial, I have no idea how a camera, these days, could be sold without it. I am a huge fan of Canon and Nikon, but gotta say, as an Oly shooter knowledgeable about all its unique features, 'twer I a developer of cameras I would really look at the features in Olympus cameras and try to mimic that in my line...Canon or Nikon. Highly water resistant, amazing IBIS, live composite, in body focus stacking, high res shooting, onboard ND filter (a bit gimmicky but still...), updates on software and a host of others. As someone once famously said, the system changes how one looks at life!

When some newbie asks about getting into a system, I almost always point them to Canon, but I wonder about their odd decision to not include IBIS in all cameras. In fact, I just bought a small Canon kit for a relative. I would think that most casual shooters just want to buy a camera, assume it has the major features, such as IBIS, built in and not have to do a spread sheet on the features of cameras to protect themselves from omissions.

Certainly, people will continue to buy the Canon line. And they probably will own the majority of the market with these new models, but I am flummoxed as to why.

Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca

And i couldn’t see it

BebuLamar

Well they are EOS-R (not M)

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Yes, one has to wonder and ASK ....