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May 22, 2022 17:53:24   #
MountainDave
 
robertjerl wrote:
Those lower MPs were for two things, speed of fps for sports and action and for larger pixels for low light. It is more or less assumed that the pros or serious hobbyists know enough to get closer and fill the frame to avoid so much cropping. Before I started having trouble with my knee and leg I used to work harder to get close so I had outstanding results with my 6D (FF - 20MP) and my 7DII (APS-C - 20MP). Now I have a 5DIV FF with 30MP, 80D with 24MP, 90D with 32.5MP - too sensitive to camera motion hand held since I am no longer a human tripod but off a rigid tripod and for table top macro work it is outstanding. And I still have my 7DII - that AF system and all its options is just too good to get rid of. On days when my knee and leg feel better the 7DII and 70-300L or 100-400L mk2 get used at the Riverwalk Parkway after water birds.

The rumored new R7 to replace the 7DII is supposed to have 32.5MP but a new version of the sensor and IBIS to add to the IS in the lenses so maybe it will solve the motion blur problem. Otherwise I would have told Canon to make it a 24MP camera. It is supposed to be officially announced this week so we will see. If the reviews/test show the motion blur is solved I will be saving for an R7, adapter for my EF lenses and then the RF 100-500 lens.
Those lower MPs were for two things, speed of fps ... (show quote)


I very recently replaced my much loved 100-400L II with the RF100-500. There is a significant improvement in AF performance. BTW, I am 71 but I have a pretty steady hand. Decades of target shooting probably helped. The "R7" could be a very interesting product!

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May 22, 2022 19:32:14   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
MountainDave wrote:
I very recently replaced my much loved 100-400L II with the RF100-500. There is a significant improvement in AF performance. BTW, I am 71 but I have a pretty steady hand. Decades of target shooting probably helped. The "R7" could be a very interesting product!


Up until a couple of years ago I was still very steady.
Then my diabetes started to cause fluid retention in my lower legs which if ignored resulted in blisters that when they popped could become infected so I got orders to get a lounge chair or something where I could spend at least 1/2 the day with my feet even with or above my heart. It works for the fluid and blister problems but I get very little exercise and my legs are getting weaker so no matter how steady I hold the camera my whole body sways a bit causing motion blur with high MP bodies like my 90D and even my 5DIV. High shutter speeds help but my birds are often in among leaves, in shade on lower limbs etc. so then I get a lot of noise from the high ISO to off set the high SS.

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May 22, 2022 19:40:07   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
6 - 8 unless you like to crop.

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May 22, 2022 20:05:50   #
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WirtzWorld wrote:
I had been the proud owner of a canon 20d, until I wasn’t so proud anymore. I replaced it with a canon 5D and soon after added a 5DS r .... the resolution from the 5DS r is simply amazing. If there were no mirrorless camera on the market I might be set for life.

Similar for me. The 5D-SR is stepping aside for a Z7. I will never notice the 10% loss of pixels and the Z7 is really tremendously the better device. I still have the same old EF lenses, so its all about the cameras.

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May 22, 2022 20:16:53   #
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therwol wrote:
I've seen people here who say that you should compose your pictures properly in the first place and never use cropping for composition, and my counter to that is that I can't afford, nor do I want to carry around a 600mm lens for a shot where I can't get close. If someone wants to buy/give me a 600mm+ lens with a Nikon F mount so that I can take pictures of the squirrels and birds across the street from my house, I'll tough it out and use it. In the absence of that, I'll use what I have and crop my D850 pictures to my liking.
I've seen people here who say that you should comp... (show quote)

So youre shooting 4/3 format with a FF.


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May 22, 2022 22:12:59   #
MountainDave
 
robertjerl wrote:
Up until a couple of years ago I was still very steady.
Then my diabetes started to cause fluid retention in my lower legs which if ignored resulted in blisters that when they popped could become infected so I got orders to get a lounge chair or something where I could spend at least 1/2 the day with my feet even with or above my heart. It works for the fluid and blister problems but I get very little exercise and my legs are getting weaker so no matter how steady I hold the camera my whole body sways a bit causing motion blur with high MP bodies like my 90D and even my 5DIV. High shutter speeds help but my birds are often in among leaves, in shade on lower limbs etc. so then I get a lot of noise from the high ISO to off set the high SS.
Up until a couple of years ago I was still very st... (show quote)


I am sorry to read this. Best.

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May 23, 2022 05:29:38   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Think back to when you knew nothing about 30 megapixel sensors. Would you still want to be that person?


Of course, I was several years younger then

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May 23, 2022 05:43:18   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
GeneinChi wrote:
This will probably open a giant can of worms so I apologize in advance. How many MP’s are really necessary for the average non-professional person taking pictures? By “average person” I mean someone posting on the internet, looking a photos on a computer or iPad, or cell phone. Maybe blowing up to 16x20 on a rare occasion. There are some really great deals on older cameras with 16 mp as an example. They don’t have all the bells and whistles of the latest and greatest but really, does everyone need 26,30,40 even 40mp’s? Just curious what your knowledgeable folks think. I know everyone has different needs but what do you consider adequate?
This will probably open a giant can of worms so I ... (show quote)


I've made and sold 40"x60" prints from uncropped images taken with a Nikon D70. So I would say that 6 mp is enough.

This guide should help you:

http://www.photokaboom.com/photography/learn/printing/resolution/1_which_resolution_print_size_viewing_distance.htm

How many pixels are needed is entirely dependent on viewing distance, human eyesight limitations, print size (bigger prints are usually viewed at greater distances), image content (highly textured or detailed images usually require more resolution), etc.

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May 23, 2022 06:16:23   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
GeneinChi wrote:
This will probably open a giant can of worms so I apologize in advance. How many MP’s are really necessary for the average non-professional person taking pictures? By “average person” I mean someone posting on the internet, looking a photos on a computer or iPad, or cell phone. Maybe blowing up to 16x20 on a rare occasion. There are some really great deals on older cameras with 16 mp as an example. They don’t have all the bells and whistles of the latest and greatest but really, does everyone need 26,30,40 even 40mp’s? Just curious what your knowledgeable folks think. I know everyone has different needs but what do you consider adequate?
This will probably open a giant can of worms so I ... (show quote)


For someone just posting on the internet? Probably 3 MP

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May 23, 2022 06:26:42   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
GeneinChi wrote:
This will probably open a giant can of worms so I apologize in advance. How many MP’s are really necessary for the average non-professional person taking pictures? By “average person” I mean someone posting on the internet, looking a photos on a computer or iPad, or cell phone. Maybe blowing up to 16x20 on a rare occasion. There are some really great deals on older cameras with 16 mp as an example. They don’t have all the bells and whistles of the latest and greatest but really, does everyone need 26,30,40 even 40mp’s? Just curious what your knowledgeable folks think. I know everyone has different needs but what do you consider adequate?
This will probably open a giant can of worms so I ... (show quote)


Pixel count is but one feature of a camera...there are other characteristics that matter too, maybe more. My high pixel journey started with the D800E, then D810, D850, A7R3, A7R4 and finally A1.

I have had lower pixel count cameras as well, 6-24MP, all excellent cameras at least in their time. Would go back?...kicking and screaming all the way.

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May 23, 2022 06:35:13   #
keywest305 Loc: Baltimore Md.
 
So I use my D3s for those shots for sharing on internet since the files are small at 12mp. I use it for birthday parties or gatherings where family or friends are asking can i send them the pics tonight. Then my specialty camera shots I use my D850 which I have the option of more creative cropping if needed. They both put out spectacular pics but i would day a happy number us the 24 range

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May 23, 2022 06:54:04   #
ELNikkor
 
For posting online, 300kb is more than enough, often mine are resized to half that. Just for fun I took a RAW file from my D750, (around 25mb) and put it through Topaz Gigapixel at max. It took a few minutes, but the file became 3.6GB for that one image! (It wouldn't even show on my screen...)

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May 23, 2022 07:01:22   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
This is 1,000 x 800 pixels. Size on disk 200 kb. For a quick look on the internet, like in the Photo Gallery, it is all I need. 8x10 prints from a P800 Epson satisfy people who are more interested in the flag than the pixel count. This was just a quick shot from my window.



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May 23, 2022 07:35:58   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
GeneinChi wrote:
This will probably open a giant can of worms so I apologize in advance. How many MP’s are really necessary for the average non-professional person taking pictures? By “average person” I mean someone posting on the internet, looking a photos on a computer or iPad, or cell phone. Maybe blowing up to 16x20 on a rare occasion. There are some really great deals on older cameras with 16 mp as an example. They don’t have all the bells and whistles of the latest and greatest but really, does everyone need 26,30,40 even 40mp’s? Just curious what your knowledgeable folks think. I know everyone has different needs but what do you consider adequate?
This will probably open a giant can of worms so I ... (show quote)


For many here it is bragging rights and there can never be enough.

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May 23, 2022 07:43:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
That's like saying how much money is enough. I remember a headline on the cover of a photo mag: "One Megapixel Camera!" It's the same with computer memory or horsepower or bathrooms in a house. You can live without more, but more is better.

Of course, you would have to specify, enough for what?

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