A real photographer?
May 7, 2022 15:07:42 #
Mustang1 wrote:
How can a person shoot in Auto and/or Program, have blurred, out-of-focus, underexposed pictures call himself a professional as he resorts to Photoshop to correct a lousy photo? Shouldn't he be creating that photo in the camera?
When a person refers of himself as a "Professional Photographer" it only means that he is in a "Photography
business of some kind", it doesn't mean (as so many interpret) that, he is guaranteeing the quality of his work.
As in any profession there are poor, Good or great and many level's in between. It don't mean, he or she shoots
only in "Manual" mode and never needs to use software to correct or enhance his images. There are many circumstances where a good photographer, professional or amateur will shoot images in any of the modes available on his camera that will appear blurred, out of focus or under exposed.
"My 2 cents"
May 7, 2022 15:20:01 #
May 7, 2022 16:38:40 #
BrianFlaherty
Loc: Wilseyville, CA
Mustang1 wrote:
How can a person shoot in Auto and/or Program, have blurred, out-of-focus, underexposed pictures call himself a professional as he resorts to Photoshop to correct a lousy photo? Shouldn't he be creating that photo in the camera?
WHO CARES???
May 7, 2022 16:41:40 #
I believed that Ansel Adams also use his darkroom to a great extent for each of his Professional photographs.
David
David
May 7, 2022 16:47:33 #
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.
May 7, 2022 17:18:15 #
Are you saying that you never used photoshop or do any type of editing of your photographs??? If so then you're in a league all your own and I'm happy for you.
David
David
May 7, 2022 18:23:09 #
I cannot believe I have been suckered into this conversation again. But here goes.
Pro Photog A - hired to photograph Mt. Mazama, OR for an ad campaign on a tight deadline with a specific sky/cloud/sun background.
Photog decides to do sky replacement on a shot using “P” mode behind his mountain shots to give client the required look.
Acceptable to you or not?
Photographer in your mind or not?
Pro Photog B - Not-for-hire independent “artistic landscape” Photog who sells work as realistically documenting Cascade Mountains moods.
Never uses sky replacement but is a master at photoshop to overcome the limitations of equipment, i.e. fixes shortcomings of modern lenses and sensors because they cannot accomplish what the combination of the human eye and compensating human brain can.
Acceptable to you or not?
Photographer or not?
First of all what either does is none of my business, unless I hire Photog A or buy from Photog B.
Secondly both photogs want to reach their goal, and, more power to both.
If I am the client and Photog A doesn’t get my ad done on time with the look I want he is still a Photog but next time not the one working for me.
If I buy a large photo by Photog B to display over my fireplace and find out he used sky replacement - given that she/he had stated the work is “realistic” I will return it.
In my view both are legitimate photogs with different goals and what is necessary for “A” is unacceptable for “B” - given that I am a customer. If I am not it is none of my business.
Pro Photog A - hired to photograph Mt. Mazama, OR for an ad campaign on a tight deadline with a specific sky/cloud/sun background.
Photog decides to do sky replacement on a shot using “P” mode behind his mountain shots to give client the required look.
Acceptable to you or not?
Photographer in your mind or not?
Pro Photog B - Not-for-hire independent “artistic landscape” Photog who sells work as realistically documenting Cascade Mountains moods.
Never uses sky replacement but is a master at photoshop to overcome the limitations of equipment, i.e. fixes shortcomings of modern lenses and sensors because they cannot accomplish what the combination of the human eye and compensating human brain can.
Acceptable to you or not?
Photographer or not?
First of all what either does is none of my business, unless I hire Photog A or buy from Photog B.
Secondly both photogs want to reach their goal, and, more power to both.
If I am the client and Photog A doesn’t get my ad done on time with the look I want he is still a Photog but next time not the one working for me.
If I buy a large photo by Photog B to display over my fireplace and find out he used sky replacement - given that she/he had stated the work is “realistic” I will return it.
In my view both are legitimate photogs with different goals and what is necessary for “A” is unacceptable for “B” - given that I am a customer. If I am not it is none of my business.
May 7, 2022 18:31:23 #
An amateur will tend to believe hard work is what brings good luck and success. Professional photographers know the secret is a full-frame camera.
May 7, 2022 18:56:17 #
jakester69
Loc: eastlake,ohio
I have met to many so-called photographers that buy a digital camera,read the instructions and call themselves
photographers. First of all they no nothing about composition, and then come up with blown out highlights or no details in the shadows .Many sell themselves as Wedding photographers and end up with disasters. I've seen tree branches growing out of peoples heads, People not being posed properly, some hidden in photos. They also don't how to blur backgrounds or render them out of focus. They don't anything about using depth o field. I came from a group of photographers that i joined in a club in 1984. They had meetings that were teaching sessions, that took me from a rank beginner to a polished pro. I shot weddings for 6 years,with a medium format camera sometimes 3 a weekend, and eventually got burnt out.
I still have my own darkroom, an Omega D5 and a 5500 enlargers and shoot a lot 4x5 black and white camera work
for my own enjoyment. Often i travel out of state or new opportunities. And yes, i'm retired.
If you are new to photography, seek out people who can help you, you'd be supprised that they want to help you.
Also you can take a class or 2 at your local college .
photographers. First of all they no nothing about composition, and then come up with blown out highlights or no details in the shadows .Many sell themselves as Wedding photographers and end up with disasters. I've seen tree branches growing out of peoples heads, People not being posed properly, some hidden in photos. They also don't how to blur backgrounds or render them out of focus. They don't anything about using depth o field. I came from a group of photographers that i joined in a club in 1984. They had meetings that were teaching sessions, that took me from a rank beginner to a polished pro. I shot weddings for 6 years,with a medium format camera sometimes 3 a weekend, and eventually got burnt out.
I still have my own darkroom, an Omega D5 and a 5500 enlargers and shoot a lot 4x5 black and white camera work
for my own enjoyment. Often i travel out of state or new opportunities. And yes, i'm retired.
If you are new to photography, seek out people who can help you, you'd be supprised that they want to help you.
Also you can take a class or 2 at your local college .
May 7, 2022 19:03:10 #
The OPs "question" has the credibility of a 3 sided square imho.
Here's a blurred processed image for the OP to digest:
Here's a blurred processed image for the OP to digest:
May 7, 2022 19:04:21 #
BrianFlaherty wrote:
WHO CARES???
Is that a question, or do you just have a need to be heard?
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May 7, 2022 19:15:12 #
May 7, 2022 19:18:36 #
May 7, 2022 19:34:03 #
This obsessive talk of what photography is really all about is patently absurd.
Do woodworkers carry on similar discussions?.....
Do woodworkers carry on similar discussions?.....
May 7, 2022 19:34:03 #
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