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May 13, 2022 15:34:48   #
srt101fan
 
SueScott wrote:
I'm finding it rather interesting that the guy who started this 12 page discussion hasn't contributed to it since his original post.


Unfortunately that seems to happen quite a bit. Makes you wonder.....

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May 13, 2022 15:42:49   #
NickGee Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
SueScott wrote:
I'm finding it rather interesting that the guy who started this 12 page discussion hasn't contributed to it since his original post.


It's even more interesting (to me) that this thread has persisted for 13 pages. Again!

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May 14, 2022 20:47:53   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yep.
letmedance wrote:
Photoshop is the digital dark room.

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May 15, 2022 10:18:42   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
huemax wrote:
The Zone System is in Silver Photography of B&W images. Not in COLOR photography. Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, and all those grandmaster of PHOTOGRAPHY has no color. So as DIGTAL imaging. It is PIX creation, do not need material and process in darkroom. A true photography, which is a perfect marriage between arts and science, is MONO CHROME.


The TRUE artist was doing Pictographs on cave walls...

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May 15, 2022 11:17:45   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Photography functions as a wordless medium of human expression. Some critics lump photography under imagery however produced. This description provides for maximum artistic latitude in this sub-field of the visual arts.
MrBob wrote:
The TRUE artist was doing Pictographs on cave walls...

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May 15, 2022 12:22:29   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
anotherview wrote:
Photography functions as a wordless medium of human expression. Some critics lump photography under imagery however produced. This description provides for maximum artistic latitude in this sub-field of the visual arts.




Art is any human creation that moves people in some way — whether mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, or as a call to action.

To insist art belongs to any single medium or type of media is to be uninformed and unimaginative.

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May 15, 2022 12:48:46   #
Ekeeton
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Real Photographers use Polaroid.


rorflmao!

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May 15, 2022 13:04:41   #
srt101fan
 
burkphoto wrote:


Art is any human creation that moves people in some way — whether mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, or as a call to action.

To insist art belongs to any single medium or type of media is to be uninformed and unimaginative.


But lets not forget that photography as an art form is just a subset of photography as a medium for creating images. To insist that "photography is art" is just as wrong as saying that "photography is not art". Colonoscopy imaging is also photography, no? (Please, let's not go to the BS that art is in the eye of the beholder..... )

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May 15, 2022 14:53:36   #
Sannu
 
The answer is simple. An artist does not ask how did I get here but rather does my image, painting, sculpture, etc. express my intent.

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May 15, 2022 17:08:42   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Mustang1 wrote:
How can a person shoot in Auto and/or Program, have blurred, out-of-focus, underexposed pictures call himself a professional as he resorts to Photoshop to correct a lousy photo? Shouldn't he be creating that photo in the camera?


Creating a photo in the camera is just the first step in the photography process. If you used manual, auto everything, SP, AP, Auto ISO, etc., it is irrelevant, the result is all that matters. A good photo becomes excellent with skilled post processing. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise...compare the results.

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May 15, 2022 21:26:21   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
Gene51 wrote:
This guy is called a pro by many. He uses a Ricoh GR1 or a GR21 and typically doesn't even compose in the viewfinder. I am pretty sure he uses his camera in full automatic mode. His prints sell for $1000s. In Japan, he is considered a Master of Photography. But you'd have to expand your definition of what constitutes a pro to wrap your head around his art and mastery.

https://www.hamiltonsgallery.com/artists/daido-moriyama/biography/

https://www.moriyamadaido.com/photogallery/

https://www.anatomyfilms.com/daido-moriyama-snapshot-art/

How a picture is recorded and processed is a workflow filled with lots of choices. Image manipulation for artistic effect is one of them. And no, creating a perfect image in a camera without post processing is not the mark of a pro. The final image is. Also a pro can be a commercial product photographer, a portrait artist, event photographer, wildlife and nature, sports, fashion, food, etc etc etc - and each have different standards for their specific piece of the industry. The only ones where the picture goes straight from the camera to print or publication are the documentarians - reportage, forensics, crime scene, etc. But these images are typically boring and not creative in the least. Not something you would see in a gallery or museum.
This guy is called a pro by many. He uses a Ricoh ... (show quote)


There has been a movement called Snap Shot Style for a long time--this looks like that sort of art, at least in some of the pictures. They have a market. Don't ask me--I still don't get it about Jackson Pollack's art dribbling with house paint brushes, but he was instantly seen as a great artistic genius by critics who know about art.

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May 15, 2022 23:53:18   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Going with your comment: I once saw an original painting by Vincent von Gogh in a museum. His piece caught my eye as I entered a room. I felt compelled to gaze at it. It drew me in with its sense of immediacy. Its coloration and brushstrokes together produced a visual vibrancy.

His artistry inspired me. I then began studying his biography. He struggled a great deal. He poured himself into his work. It seems only his brother Theo helped him survive to paint. I believe he sold only one painting during his life.
burkphoto wrote:


Art is any human creation that moves people in some way — whether mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, or as a call to action.

To insist art belongs to any single medium or type of media is to be uninformed and unimaginative.

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May 16, 2022 08:49:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
anotherview wrote:
Going with your comment: I once saw an original painting by Vincent von Gogh in a museum. His piece caught my eye as I entered a room. I felt compelled to gaze at it. It drew me in with its sense of immediacy. Its coloration and brushstrokes together produced a visual vibrancy.

His artistry inspired me. I then began studying his biography. He struggled a great deal. He poured himself into his work. It seems only his brother Theo helped him survive to paint. I believe he sold only one painting during his life.
Going with your comment: I once saw an original p... (show quote)


If you haven't seen this, and you like Van Gogh, check it out. It's fantastic.

https://vangoghexpo.com

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May 16, 2022 08:56:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The difference between Success and Failure is simply the <Delete> key. Not the exposure mode setting.

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May 16, 2022 09:12:26   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The difference between Success and Failure is simply the <Delete> key. Not the exposure mode setting.


There is much truth in that! Steve Jobs often said that in product design, what you leave out is just as important as what you leave in.

My high school journalism teacher said, "Toss the mistakes, the "almosts," the un-croppable, and the missed moments. If you can't marvel at your own work, you're not trying hard enough. If others don't like it, you're not getting paid for it."

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