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May 2, 2022 11:06:40   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Strodav wrote:
I started transitioning from film years ago with a variety of point and shoot and bridge cameras, but I have never gotten completely away from my love of film. My first Nikon dslr is a D7200 with an 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6 lens. I love that camera and lens and still find excuses to use that kit today even though I have a D800, D850 and D500. Along the way, I picked up a lot of expensive glass, which is worth a lot more than the value of the bodies including a Nikon 600mm f/4 used for wildlife / birding. In order to go mirrorless, I wanted a camera better than my D850 and could use my glass. I was patient waiting out the mirrorless wars and was finally rewarded with the Z9. What separates it from my dslrs is IBIS, subject tracking and frame rate all of which increase my keeper rate, but there is no real difference in IQ. I am relieved I did not have to sell my Nikon gear and replace it with another system at great expense. I am very happy that I do not have to learn a new, or multiple, menu systems and I just plain like the feel of my Nikons in my hands and I like their reputation for building rugged products that perform well even in difficult environments.

I read so many posts here and on other photography forums from those who believed they had to have this new technology to become better photographers or even to avoid embarrassment to just stay in photography. BS! Mirrorless does not make you a better photographer and there are plenty of enthusiasts out there that will continue to capture stellar images with their dslrs. Many on these forums have got it backwards as they start with gear then try to take great images with it. A better way is to start with how to create great images, then figure out what gear you need to accomplish that.
I started transitioning from film years ago with a... (show quote)



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May 2, 2022 11:07:54   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I purchased my first mirrorless digital camera in the spring of 2001.


Bul did it have interchangeable lenses?

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May 2, 2022 11:10:47   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Nosaj wrote:
A mirrorless camera is not a DSLR?


No. Call it a DSLM or MILC. There’s no Reflex mirror.

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May 2, 2022 12:54:20   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
dhelix33 wrote:
Photography is not something new to me - so I am not a novice at image composition seeking to be "better,", or lacking familiarity with different types of equipment to compose images. When Nikon put that “f” like design into a digital camera - Nikon photographers (like me) who have been around for a while took notice. The first camera I shot with was a Nikon F. The F series has an undisputed legacy of classic design and toughness - it is a blend of simple and rugged. The Nikon Df took me back to that photography equipment simplicity and ruggedness - with a classic blend of old style film camera design bundled with new digital functionality. The look and feel of the Df reminds me of what I shot with when first introduced to 35mm film SLR photography. What I instantly liked about the Nikon Df was that it did not have the heft and and bulk of my Nikon D700. In comparison, the Df is quiet, light and fast. Also liked that when actuating the shutter it did not have the ‘machine gun’ loudness of my D700. In terms of film, I don't have my own darkroom anymore - although I believe I can remember how to get a roll of Ilford film out of a 35mm canister, develop it and burn prints. The Nikon Df full frame dSLR and Nikon Z fc are keepers mainly due to my Nikon nostalgia. But both cameras can produce good images - neither is in my hands as much as my current go-to devices though - you have actually motivated me to charge up the Df battery and shoot some frames - and wax nostalgic. I have attached a few images taken with my Nikon Df.
Photography is not something new to me - so I am n... (show quote)

Very nice shots
Thanks for sharing

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May 2, 2022 13:18:27   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
AGO wrote:
He's wrong about most of what he says. I don't pay any attention to him.


Some of his little ditties are pretty good and some are simply wrong.

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May 2, 2022 13:20:25   #
dhelix33 Loc: Live in Raleigh, NC - Grew up in Teaneck, NJ
 
JD750 wrote:
That’s nice work! I have a feeling whatever camera you were using, would turn out great images while you were using it.



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May 2, 2022 13:30:48   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The 'R' is reflex, as in the flapping (reflex) mirror of this legacy design. DSLR - Digital Single Lens Reflex.

A mirrorless is MILC - Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera, assuming the mirrorless body accepts different interchangeable lenses.

So no, a mirrorless is not a DSLR.


Yes, the M in MILC is for mirrorless. But, any digital camera that doesn't have a mirror in it can also be called mirrorless. If I'm referring to an interchangeable lens camera then I use MILC. I never grasped the concept of calling MILC'S mirrorless. We never called DSLR'S digitals.

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May 2, 2022 13:37:44   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Yes, the M in MILC is for mirrorless. But, any digital camera that doesn't have a mirror in it can also be called mirrorless. If I'm referring to an interchangeable lens camera then I use MILC. I never grasped the concept of calling MILC'S mirrorless. We never called DSLR'S digitals.


Given the 'D' in DSLRinosaur is digital, it would seem redundant ... although in the early days, it was not uncommon to hear 'digital' SLR.

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May 2, 2022 14:30:15   #
spaceytracey Loc: East Glacier Park, MT
 
Strodav wrote:
I started transitioning from film years ago with a variety of point and shoot and bridge cameras, but I have never gotten completely away from my love of film. My first Nikon dslr is a D7200 with an 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6 lens. I love that camera and lens and still find excuses to use that kit today even though I have a D800, D850 and D500. Along the way, I picked up a lot of expensive glass, which is worth a lot more than the value of the bodies including a Nikon 600mm f/4 used for wildlife / birding. In order to go mirrorless, I wanted a camera better than my D850 and could use my glass. I was patient waiting out the mirrorless wars and was finally rewarded with the Z9. What separates it from my dslrs is IBIS, subject tracking and frame rate all of which increase my keeper rate, but there is no real difference in IQ. I am relieved I did not have to sell my Nikon gear and replace it with another system at great expense. I am very happy that I do not have to learn a new, or multiple, menu systems and I just plain like the feel of my Nikons in my hands and I like their reputation for building rugged products that perform well even in difficult environments.

I read so many posts here and on other photography forums from those who believed they had to have this new technology to become better photographers or even to avoid embarrassment to just stay in photography. BS! Mirrorless does not make you a better photographer and there are plenty of enthusiasts out there that will continue to capture stellar images with their dslrs. Many on these forums have got it backwards as they start with gear then try to take great images with it. A better way is to start with how to create great images, then figure out what gear you need to accomplish that.
I started transitioning from film years ago with a... (show quote)


Thank you! I agree. The best equipment in the world w/not produce great images unless you've honed your photographic abilities.

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May 2, 2022 14:31:39   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Imagine your photography as if you approached every image with only the best equipment.

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May 2, 2022 15:00:34   #
Nickaroo
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The only photographer you need to compare yourself against is the one with a better camera.


This is true in today's realm of photography.

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May 2, 2022 15:03:09   #
Nickaroo
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Given the 'D' in DSLRinosaur is digital, it would seem redundant ... although in the early days, it was not uncommon to hear 'digital' SLR.


You do know that this Chap may have a point/ But I still say Mirrorless.

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May 2, 2022 15:13:36   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Given the 'D' in DSLRinosaur is digital, it would seem redundant ... although in the early days, it was not uncommon to hear 'digital' SLR.


I went digital over 20 years ago and I never heard anyone call a DSLR, a digital SLR, just DSLR. You do realize you lose a bit of integrity when you say crap like DSLRinosaur. You are basically insulting the people who either can't afford the latest and greatest, are happy with what they have, or are waiting for the technology to mature and stabilize, which it is now doing.
I have nothing against MILC'S, I like the one I have and I'm saving up to buy a new one, when Canon releases one that I'm ready to spend the money on. For now, my 5D mk IV and my D850 and my 90D do what I need them to do, and they do it quite well, mirror and all.

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May 2, 2022 15:15:06   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I went digital over 20 years ago and I never heard anyone call a DSLR, a digital SLR, just DSLR. You do realize you lose a bit of integrity when you say crap like DSLRinosaur. You are basically insulting the people who either can't afford the latest and greatest, are happy with what they have, or are waiting for the technology to mature and stabilize, which it is now doing.
I have nothing against MILC'S, I like the one I have and I'm saving up to buy a new one, when Canon releases one that I'm ready to spend the money on. For now, my 5D mk IV and my D850 and my 90D do what I need them to do, and they do it quite well, mirror and all.
I went digital over 20 years ago and I never heard... (show quote)


I know exactly what I'm doing. Clearly, you don't.

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May 2, 2022 15:25:59   #
AGO
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I know exactly what I'm doing. Clearly, you don't.


So, what you are saying is that when you insult people you know exactly what you are doing and that it is intentional. I think it's time you grew up.

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