ecommons wrote:
It really comes down to what you want. It's like comparing a Brownie camera to a SLR. The brownie has a fixed optical lens. a fixed aperture, and a single shutter speed and takes pictures. But it has its limits.
An Apple Iphone camera is more flexible, but has it's limits as well. I can't mount a telephoto zoom lens or a wide angle lens to it. My polarizer filter is to big to fit it. It takes pictures, but has it's limits.
I on occasionally use a cell phone camera because it's there. It fits in my hip pocket. But for serious work, my SLR is far more flexible and adaptable to what I need. It and its accessories require a back pack.
The phone takes great snapshots. My camera takes great photographs...........
It really comes down to what you want. It's like c... (
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Many a great photograph made with a cell phone camera; many a snapshot taken with a camera.....
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mikegreenwald wrote:
A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 led me to think about cellphone cameras.
It is clear that Apple, Samsung, and Alphabet all produce ‘phones with cameras that are amazing by any standard. I’m currently using a Samsung Galaxy S21, but I have no reason to think it’s either better nor worse than other brands of the same age.
However, I’m curious about the relative abilities of all current iterations of the different brands available.
What abilities should be reviewed (there are certainly others that I can’t think of at this moment)?
1. IQ of images at wide, standard, and long lens settings.
Subset: accuracy of focus and controllability of depth of field.
2. Ability at handling a wide variety of light levels.
3. Ability to handle scenes requiring a wide dynamic range.
4. Range of focal lengths of imbedded lenses.
5. Color bias, if any.
6. Image stabilization?
7. Ability to control artificial lighting.
8. Ability to back up images on the go.
9. Storage capacity.
10. Output formats available.
11. IQ of video as well as stills.
12. Ease of use handling the camera, and complexity of menu(s).
13. Careful review of post-processing abilities.
14. Anything else you might think of.
Note that comments like “I use XYZ cellphone camera and it is…….” Are not helpful for comparison purposes.
Does a review including most of the above criteria exist?
A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 ... (
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This does not answer the question any more directly than half the answers so far, so please ignore my post if that matters. My use of phone cameras relates to how easily the camera works with high productivity applications. This is more a question of which OS the phone is tied to. The questions you ask are great, however, I use my phone camera for purposes I would not do with a dedicated camera. I love the portability of SOOC pans while hiking, photo "scans" of documents with auto skew and stretch, and fake portrait mode when I should have brought along a real camera. More and more of these special features have been acquired by the big company OS's from independent developers. It's hard to keep up. As good as these phone cameras get, I still see them as handy tools for which I would never give up my quest for a FF MILC so I might someday have a truly adventurous life.
CHG_CANON wrote:
A photographer brings their camera.
How brilliant, I'd never have thought that! A photographer bringing a camera, such a nouveau idea...
fetzler wrote:
I must say that cellphones not really good at anything - even making phone calls. They are, for instance, hard to hold.
I think of cellphone cameras much like Instamatic of the past. They are OK for utilitarian and a family photo ocassionaly but I much perfer a real camera -even a simple one.
Yet another person who doesn't understand the difference between real and dedicated.
Apparently you don't own a decent modern smart phone. I live in Southeast Pennsylvania and I have a cousin who lives in western Oregon, about roughly 3,000 miles west of me. I call and text my cousin often and we have absolutely no problem communicating with each other. My cousin also uses a smart phone. You are 100% wrong about cell phone not being good at anything, including phone calls. There are people who use smart phones as professional cameras, and I guarantee you could not tell the difference in photos without looking at the exif data. I do agree with you though, I too prefer using a dedicated digital camera to the smart phone camera most of the time as I own a few nice DSLR'S and MILC'S and a whole bunch of Canon, Nikkor, Sigma and Tamron lenses, and I prefer my Canon G1X III Bridge camera as my pocket camera. If I don't have a dedicated digital camera with me, I use my Google Pixel 6.
Longshadow wrote:
Why?
Not a general photography discussion?
So discussion about printers should be in the "Printer Section"; Nikon discussion should be in the "Nikon Section"; ...?
I'd feel so out of place in a Nikon section as I own far more Canon gear than Nikon gear (D7200, D500, D850, plenty of lenses).
kb6kgx wrote:
If vertically, they should be fired.
I shoot vertically in both my SLR and phone depending on the subject.
Reading this is almost as much fun as the oil threads on a truck or motorcycle site.
No one is forced to read anything!
Interesting questions.
I am currently using a Samsung S21-5G and impressed with the quality of pictures it produces.
As far as working with the resulting photos:
1. I can email or text any picture on the phone to anyone.
2. I download ALL Phone Photos to my Desktop every week or two. I do most processing on the larger screen this provides me.
I still use an older Nikon D-3100 with a couple of ZOOM Lenses for more controlled shots,
BUT as has been quoted here before:
The best camera is the one you have with you!
LOTS of candid shots are far more available with the Samsung. The 64 MP ZOOM Lens isn't bad either....
Imagine your life as a successful photographer. Are you using your phone?
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I'd feel so out of place in a Nikon section as I own far more Canon gear than Nikon gear (D7200, D500, D850, plenty of lenses).
What, don't wanna infiltrate a clique?
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