A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 led me to think about cellphone cameras.
It is clear that Apple, Samsung, and Alphabet all produce ‘phones with cameras that are amazing by any standard. I’m currently using a Samsung Galaxy S21, but I have no reason to think it’s either better nor worse than other brands of the same age.
However, I’m curious about the relative abilities of all current iterations of the different brands available.
What abilities should be reviewed (there are certainly others that I can’t think of at this moment)?
1. IQ of images at wide, standard, and long lens settings.
Subset: accuracy of focus and controllability of depth of field.
2. Ability at handling a wide variety of light levels.
3. Ability to handle scenes requiring a wide dynamic range.
4. Range of focal lengths of imbedded lenses.
5. Color bias, if any.
6. Image stabilization?
7. Ability to control artificial lighting.
8. Ability to back up images on the go.
9. Storage capacity.
10. Output formats available.
11. IQ of video as well as stills.
12. Ease of use handling the camera, and complexity of menu(s).
13. Careful review of post-processing abilities.
14. Anything else you might think of.
Note that comments like “I use XYZ cellphone camera and it is…….” Are not helpful for comparison purposes.
Does a review including most of the above criteria exist?
mikegreenwald wrote:
A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 led me to think about cellphone cameras.
It is clear that Apple, Samsung, and Alphabet all produce ‘phones with cameras that are amazing by any standard. I’m currently using a Samsung Galaxy S21, but I have no reason to think it’s either better nor worse than other brands of the same age.
However, I’m curious about the relative abilities of all current iterations of the different brands available.
What abilities should be reviewed (there are certainly others that I can’t think of at this moment)?
1. IQ of images at wide, standard, and long lens settings.
Subset: accuracy of focus and controllability of depth of field.
2. Ability at handling a wide variety of light levels.
3. Ability to handle scenes requiring a wide dynamic range.
4. Range of focal lengths of imbedded lenses.
5. Color bias, if any.
6. Image stabilization?
7. Ability to control artificial lighting.
8. Ability to back up images on the go.
9. Storage capacity.
10. Output formats available.
11. IQ of video as well as stills.
12. Ease of use handling the camera, and complexity of menu(s).
13. Careful review of post-processing abilities.
14. Anything else you might think of.
Note that comments like “I use XYZ cellphone camera and it is…….” Are not helpful for comparison purposes.
Does a review including most of the above criteria exist?
A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 ... (
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That is actually more questions than many people ask before buying a REAL CAMERA (DSLR, MILC, DPNS). Obviously my reply is not useful to you but neither would it be if I listed all the features of the SmartPhone I currently use because it is an older model that is no longer manufactured. A Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
mikegreenwald wrote:
A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 led me to think about cellphone cameras.
It is clear that Apple, Samsung, and Alphabet all produce ‘phones with cameras that are amazing by any standard. I’m currently using a Samsung Galaxy S21, but I have no reason to think it’s either better nor worse than other brands of the same age.
However, I’m curious about the relative abilities of all current iterations of the different brands available.
What abilities should be reviewed (there are certainly others that I can’t think of at this moment)?
1. IQ of images at wide, standard, and long lens settings.
Subset: accuracy of focus and controllability of depth of field.
2. Ability at handling a wide variety of light levels.
3. Ability to handle scenes requiring a wide dynamic range.
4. Range of focal lengths of imbedded lenses.
5. Color bias, if any.
6. Image stabilization?
7. Ability to control artificial lighting.
8. Ability to back up images on the go.
9. Storage capacity.
10. Output formats available.
11. IQ of video as well as stills.
12. Ease of use handling the camera, and complexity of menu(s).
13. Careful review of post-processing abilities.
14. Anything else you might think of.
Note that comments like “I use XYZ cellphone camera and it is…….” Are not helpful for comparison purposes.
Does a review including most of the above criteria exist?
A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 ... (
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Nope, nothing additional.
My S21 is what it is and does what it does.
I just use it and edit the JPEGS with an editor on my computer.
(I DID get it as a phone... Came with a camera.)
I know, I know, I'm an old fart, but as a retired professional photographer if I ain't holding a camera I'm not a photographer.
I don't feel a need to go beyond that mine is the smallest P&S I have, it is almost always with me and the results are better than expected.
MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
nathanweddings wrote:
I know, I know, I'm an old fart, but as a retired professional photographer if I ain't holding a camera I'm not a photographer.
What do you think a cell phone camera is... A toothbrush !
I tried using a toothbrush. Too hard to make prints larger than 8x1.
mikegreenwald wrote:
A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 led me to think about cellphone cameras.
It is clear that Apple, Samsung, and Alphabet all produce ‘phones with cameras that are amazing by any standard. I’m currently using a Samsung Galaxy S21, but I have no reason to think it’s either better nor worse than other brands of the same age.
However, I’m curious about the relative abilities of all current iterations of the different brands available.
What abilities should be reviewed (there are certainly others that I can’t think of at this moment)?
1. IQ of images at wide, standard, and long lens settings.
Subset: accuracy of focus and controllability of depth of field.
2. Ability at handling a wide variety of light levels.
3. Ability to handle scenes requiring a wide dynamic range.
4. Range of focal lengths of imbedded lenses.
5. Color bias, if any.
6. Image stabilization?
7. Ability to control artificial lighting.
8. Ability to back up images on the go.
9. Storage capacity.
10. Output formats available.
11. IQ of video as well as stills.
12. Ease of use handling the camera, and complexity of menu(s).
13. Careful review of post-processing abilities.
14. Anything else you might think of.
Note that comments like “I use XYZ cellphone camera and it is…….” Are not helpful for comparison purposes.
Does a review including most of the above criteria exist?
A comment by dpullum in an unrelated post on 4/30 ... (
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Yes, please check out the new Ugly Hedgehog section, SmartPhones
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-135-1.html. They may likely answer your questions.
I meant 8x1. Toothbrush....get it? Sorry, stupid jokes are my curse.
[quote=mikegreenwald][quote=lamiaceae]Yes, please check out the new Ugly Hedgehog section, SmartPhones
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-135-1.html. They may likely answer your questions.
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Unfortunately, the comparisons are not mentioned that I can find in the referenced section.
lamiaceae wrote:
That is actually more questions than many people ask before buying a REAL CAMERA (DSLR, MILC, DPNS). Obviously my reply is not useful to you but neither would it be if I listed all the features of the SmartPhone I currently use because it is an older model that is no longer manufactured. A Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
The camera in your smart phone is a REAL CAMERA, just as much as a DSLR, MILC, ETC. are real cameras, they're just not dedicated cameras.
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