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Mar 20, 2022 10:36:51   #
whitehall Loc: Canada
 
Depends on the contract of purchase. If the right to return is unconditional then yes, it is your choice. If not, then it is a matter of interpretation whether by reason of the cosmetic issue the representation of the vendor is false.

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Mar 20, 2022 11:32:56   #
rbhallock Loc: Western Massachusetts
 
That flange is not normal. The camera is not overall excellent. Send it back for sure. When you see something like that, what else might be lurking that you can't see. Send it back.

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Mar 20, 2022 11:47:39   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
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Mar 20, 2022 12:04:03   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
I don't understand...You say you have made up your mind to return the camera in your original post. If that's the case, why bother posting? Just for chatter?

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Mar 20, 2022 12:23:08   #
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Peterfiore wrote:
I don't understand...You say you have made up your mind to return the camera in your original post. If that's the case, why bother posting? Just for chatter?

He's kvetching. No advice involved. It's just entertainment.

Maybe i should post a spread sheet of all the stuff ive returned with reasons why. Or maybe a memoir featuring favorite RMAs and the angst associated with touching defective gear with my bare hands. Soooooo icky, really need PPE.

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Mar 20, 2022 12:31:26   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Peterfiore wrote:
I don't understand...You say you have made up your mind to return the camera in your original post. If that's the case, why bother posting? Just for chatter?


Probably for the same reason you just posted ... just to be heard from!

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Mar 20, 2022 13:22:45   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Bison Bud wrote:
I've posted several times here about wanting a quality compact camera and was primarily interested the Sony RX100 series, but was open to other options and if the Lumix L10 had an EV, I probably would have gone that way and purchased new. However, I just couldn't seem to pull the trigger on a new Sony, due to the price, and ended up shopping for a used model. I recently sold an antique pocket watch that really helped me justify spending the money on a used RX100-5VA that I found on one of the used equipment dealers often recommended on this site. I settled on the 5VA because the 5 was the first one in the series with the phase detect focus system and I also decided that I'd prefer the brighter lens with less zoom over the newer lens on the VI and VII models that zooms out to 200 mm (not to mention the $100.00 difference in price).

Anyway, I spent what is major money to me on the used RX100-5VA and was really excited about it until it arrived yesterday. This camera was rated as in "Excellent" used condition and overall it looked pretty good. However, there has obviously been some sort of repair and/or modification made to the front of the lens and that really bothers me! There has been some sort of flange installed in the front of the lens that doesn't appear to fit very well and the lip of this flange half covers the original lettering on the front. It also appears to have some marks and scratches on this flange, which tells me it wasn't an easy thing to install. While I will admit, the camera does appear to function, I have no real way to tell if the lens is up to par with an original and I have decided to send it back.

At least to me, "Excellent" used condition would at least imply original condition and this one has obviously been modified for some unknown reason. I'm not saying that the dealer was trying to pull a fast one and I also have every reason to believe that I will get my money back, but I do feel that this sort of thing should have been at least mentioned in the product description and that it shouldn't have been sold at the premium price I paid. Frankly, I am very disappointed as I thought I had found my new compact camera, but now it's back to looking again or doing without.

Anyway, I'm going to post a photo that I hope helps everyone understand what I'm talking about here and hopefully get your thoughts as to whether my decision to return the camera is justified. Frankly, the lens is one of the primary reasons I bought this camera and I just don't feel like I'm getting what I thought I paid for here. I welcome your input once again! Good luck and good shooting to all.
I've posted several times here about wanting a qua... (show quote)

The "some sort of flange" you refer to looks like a filter step-up adapter that was left on the camera. It would have no impact on the operation of the camera and might even be of value if you want to install that same sized filter.

bwa

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Mar 20, 2022 14:02:22   #
Bison Bud
 
I started this thread because I wanted to know what others thought of the "Excellent" rating given with this obvious repair/modification installed. I also wondered if anyone else had seen such a thing and as it turns out, I found out that it was probably part of an add on filter system. Even though I wish it wasn't there, I have mellowed a bit about it and spent the entire weekend using the camera. Frankly, I really do like the camera, but will always feel like this sort of modification should have been disclosed prior to sale, especially since it doesn't appear to be removable. Frankly, the addition of the add on rubber grip should have been mentioned as well. Anyway, if this flange really is just an add on mod. rather then an improper repair, then I doubt that it effects overall performance and it might just be a better choice to keep it rather than return it due to this apparently cosmetic issue, especially since the used availability of this model is scarce to say the least. Anyway, the dealer's return policy is unconditional when notified within 7 days, so it really is my choice either way and as stated previously, I intend to discuss this issue personally with the dealer on Monday. Meanwhile, this thread has been both helpful and informative to me even with a few snarky remarks. Anyway, I thank all those that tried to help and hope I can return the favor some day.

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Mar 20, 2022 14:18:40   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Bison Bud wrote:
I started this thread because I wanted to know what others thought of the "Excellent" rating given with this obvious repair/modification installed. I also wondered if anyone else had seen such a thing and as it turns out, I found out that it was probably part of an add on filter system. Even though I wish it wasn't there, I have mellowed a bit about it and spent the entire weekend using the camera. Frankly, I really do like the camera, but will always feel like this sort of modification should have been disclosed prior to sale, especially since it doesn't appear to be removable. Frankly, the addition of the add on rubber grip should have been mentioned as well. Anyway, if this flange really is just an add on mod. rather then an improper repair, then I doubt that it effects overall performance and it might just be a better choice to keep it rather than return it due to this apparently cosmetic issue, especially since the used availability of this model is scarce to say the least. Anyway, the dealer's return policy is unconditional when notified within 7 days, so it really is my choice either way and as stated previously, I intend to discuss this issue personally with the dealer on Monday. Meanwhile, this thread has been both helpful and informative to me even with a few harsh statements from apparent trolls. Anyway, I thank all those that tried to help and hope I can return the favor some day.
I started this thread because I wanted to know wha... (show quote)


It's not a modification, it's an accessory. It unscrewes if you don't plan to use it.

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Mar 20, 2022 14:25:03   #
Bison Bud
 
Bill_de wrote:
It's not a modification, it's an accessory. It unscrewes if you don't plan to use it.

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I guarantee you that it does not unscrew and instead it appears to be glued in place. I fail to see how the permanent installation of this base flange would not be considered a modification, but your entitled to your opinion.

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Mar 20, 2022 15:40:00   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
Bill_de wrote:
Probably for the same reason you just posted ... just to be heard from!

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That's my point...He posted his plight like he was looking for advice. By the way, this forum is now where I come to be heard.

Be careful your dangling your participle.

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Mar 20, 2022 15:57:11   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Peterfiore wrote:
That's my point...He posted his plight like he was looking for advice. By the way, this forum is now where I come to be heard.

Be careful your dangling your participle.




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Mar 20, 2022 16:00:47   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
Bill_de wrote:


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Mar 20, 2022 16:26:50   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
I have the same camera and I looked at mine. I would not keep this one if I were you. Someone made a modification and it is still attached to the camera. I would ask for a replacement from the dealer. They should not have labelled it as "excellent" because that is just below "like new" which your is not. I love my RX100, and you will too, once you get one that you can feel better about!!

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Mar 20, 2022 20:03:45   #
sscnxy
 
I'd be interested in knowing who the dealer is.

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