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Mar 10, 2022 13:50:44   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
[quote=TonyBot]
burkphoto wrote:
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"If all you do is email, spreadsheets, word processing, web browsing, and some light photo editing, get a Late 2020 M1 Mac mini, or a 24" iMac."

Yup. That's where my $ is gonna go - to the M1 Mini.
But, the Studio sure makes the GAS rumble around. (and so does a Beech Staggerwing!)


I have the M1 Air, which has about the same guts as the mini or the iMac. It's been great.

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Mar 10, 2022 13:56:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BobHartung wrote:
I am looking into it to replace a 2013 model Mac Pro. Has everything except an HDMI port.


The Mac Studio DOES have an HDMI port. It also has FOUR Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports (USB-C connectors), TWO USB-A ports, 10 Gigabit Ethernet, High Impedance Headphone/Line Out jack, a front SDXC II reader, and either two USB-C 10Gbps ports or two more Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports on the front, depending on which processor you get.

The M1 Max can support three up-to-6K monitors and a 4K TV.

The M1 Ultra can support four up-to-6K monitors and a 4K TV.

It will run circles around the 2013 Mac Pro cylinder.

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Mar 10, 2022 20:54:25   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
[quote=TonyBot]
burkphoto wrote:
/snip/.

"If all you do is email, spreadsheets, word processing, web browsing, and some light photo editing, get a Late 2020 M1 Mac mini, or a 24" iMac."

Yup. That's where my $ is gonna go - to the M1 Mini.
But, the Studio sure makes the GAS rumble around. (and so does a Beech Staggerwing!)


On the other hand, if you do a lot of processing using Photoshop….

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Mar 10, 2022 20:56:06   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
It can drive three or five 6K displays, plus a 4KTV, depending on which processor you get.


They might be able to get me to go back to daily commutes with the carrot of that computer!

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Mar 10, 2022 21:14:18   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
They might be able to get me to go back to daily commutes with the carrot of that computer!


It looks pretty substantial. The $2000 version is basically a 16" MacBook Pro with M1 Max in a different form factor with better cooling and higher power consumption, possibly for better performance. We'll see.

The $4000 version takes TWO M1 Max processors, fuses them together into one processor, and adds a copper heat sink instead of an aluminum heat sink, to keep it cool.

I can't stand the suspense of waiting for reviews. I don't know why. I'm not getting one any time soon! Hopefully the reality will be as good as the hype, as it was with the M1, M1 Pro, and M1 Max machines.

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Mar 13, 2022 08:22:33   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cjc2 wrote:
I have a 27" LG as a second monitor on my iMac PRO. Couldn't tell the difference. When/if I buy a Studio, I will also buy an Apple monitor


Which 27" LG display do you have?

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Mar 13, 2022 10:54:05   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
hpucker99 wrote:
Which 27" LG display do you have?


LG UltraFine 5k 27MD5K. Cost was @ $ 1200. Absolutely beautiful display that matches the iMac PRO display perfectly both in image and design. Attaches to the iMac via a TB3 connector (included). I think I bought it from B&H, if not from Apple. Best of luck.

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Mar 13, 2022 11:56:42   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
burkphoto wrote:
The Mac Studio DOES have an HDMI port. It also has FOUR Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports (USB-C connectors), TWO USB-A ports, 10 Gigabit Ethernet, High Impedance Headphone/Line Out jack, a front SDXC II reader, and either two USB-C 10Gbps ports or two more Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports on the front, depending on which processor you get.

The M1 Max can support three up-to-6K monitors and a 4K TV.

The M1 Ultra can support four up-to-6K monitors and a 4K TV.

It will run circles around the 2013 Mac Pro cylinder.
The Mac Studio DOES have an HDMI port. It also has... (show quote)


Yes! Once I clarified the HDMI port, I pulled the trigger. In the past, I always tried to "right-size" my purchases, but this time I said "What the H%^&", you only live once. I purchased the biggest Ultra processor with 128 GB ram and 8 TB SSD. Coupled with my pair of 42 TB RAID arrays connected by fiber optic cable it should really run rings around my 2013 Mac Pro. I looked Thursday and deliver would have been the middle of April. I waited until Friday and now the delivery time will be the end of May into the first two weeks of June. This suggest to me that they are selling like hotcakes.

So this release coupled with the announced cessation of offering a 27" iMac except in the Pro version would push a lot of people toward this decision. My thoughts only.

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Mar 13, 2022 13:21:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BobHartung wrote:
Yes! Once I clarified the HDMI port, I pulled the trigger. In the past, I always tried to "right-size" my purchases, but this time I said "What the H%^&", you only live once. I purchased the biggest Ultra processor with 128 GB ram and 8 TB SSD. Coupled with my pair of 42 TB RAID arrays connected by fiber optic cable it should really run rings around my 2013 Mac Pro. I looked Thursday and deliver would have been the middle of April. I waited until Friday and now the delivery time will be the end of May into the first two weeks of June. This suggest to me that they are selling like hotcakes.

So this release coupled with the announced cessation of offering a 27" iMac except in the Pro version would push a lot of people toward this decision. My thoughts only.
Yes! Once I clarified the HDMI port, I pulled the... (show quote)


I am sure your new computer will prove to be mind-blowingly fast and capable! That specification will effortlessly edit 8K video for major motion pictures, according to one review I read.

Even though you said you wanted HDMI, for photo editing, I strongly encourage you to connect your monitors via Thunderbolt (USB-C) or DisplayPort connections, if available on the monitor. Thunderbolt 4 on the Mac incorporates BOTH DisplayPort and HDMI, plus USB4, including data, Ethernet, and just about any other signal you want to use. Thunderbolt is why Apple can get away with a sealed box... It connects anything at up to 40Gbps (or the maximum speed of what you connect). Thunderbolt 4 and USB4 are the same standard, essentially. They use the USB-C connector.

One bit of caution: When buying cables, consider the future. Buy ThunderBolt 4 cables. They work with ANY devices that use USB-C connectors, at the MAXIMUM SPEED of those devices. If you connect a USB-C cable for a 5 Gbps device to a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 drive, and connect the other end to the Mac Studio, you will get no more than 5 Gbps from your fast Thunderbolt drive. THE CABLES MATTER. Don't confuse them. When you buy a device, label the cable, "For use with... ONLY."

My son found this out the hard way by connecting an external drive using a cheap USB-A to USB-C adapter plug. The drive crawled. When we switched to a fast USB-C (10Gbps) cable, the drive ran twice as fast.

It is worth downloading Blackmagic Disk Speed Test if you use external drives of any kind. It will keep your system honest. With all that "horsepower" in the Mac Studio, you don't want to bottleneck it with the wrong cable, hub, dongle, or adapter.

I have options for how I connect outboard devices, so I found the best ones by testing each drive connected each way. My Samsung T7 drive got a lot faster when I bought a new cable for it. It had been limited by the cheap USB cable it came with! I also found that connecting it to my USB-C hub cost me 10% write speed and 20% read speed, compared to plugging it directly into Thunderbolt 3 on my MacBook Air, using a USB C-to-C 10 Gbps cable.

My monitor has a USB-C connection that charges my M1 MacBook Air. It also connects a 2-port hub on the back of the monitor, but that hub is S L O W. It's fine for keyboards and mice, but too slow for drive access. It gives me only five percent of the speed my T7 drive can run!

So test that connection...

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Mar 13, 2022 14:11:37   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
burkphoto wrote:
I am sure your new computer will prove to be mind-blowingly fast and capable! That specification will effortlessly edit 8K video for major motion pictures, according to one review I read.

Even though you said you wanted HDMI, for photo editing, I strongly encourage you to connect your monitors via Thunderbolt (USB-C) or DisplayPort connections, if available on the monitor. Thunderbolt 4 on the Mac incorporates BOTH DisplayPort and HDMI, plus USB4, including data, Ethernet, and just about any other signal you want to use. Thunderbolt is why Apple can get away with a sealed box... It connects anything at up to 40Gbps (or the maximum speed of what you connect). Thunderbolt 4 and USB4 are the same standard, essentially. They use the USB-C connector.

One bit of caution: When buying cables, consider the future. Buy ThunderBolt 4 cables. They work with ANY devices that use USB-C connectors, at the MAXIMUM SPEED of those devices. If you connect a USB-C cable for a 5 Gbps device to a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 drive, and connect the other end to the Mac Studio, you will get no more than 5 Gbps from your fast Thunderbolt drive. THE CABLES MATTER. Don't confuse them. When you buy a device, label the cable, "For use with... ONLY."

My son found this out the hard way by connecting an external drive using a cheap USB-A to USB-C adapter plug. The drive crawled. When we switched to a fast USB-C (10Gbps) cable, the drive ran twice as fast.

It is worth downloading Blackmagic Disk Speed Test if you use external drives of any kind. It will keep your system honest. With all that "horsepower" in the Mac Studio, you don't want to bottleneck it with the wrong cable, hub, dongle, or adapter.

I have options for how I connect outboard devices, so I found the best ones by testing each drive connected each way. My Samsung T7 drive got a lot faster when I bought a new cable for it. It had been limited by the cheap USB cable it came with! I also found that connecting it to my USB-C hub cost me 10% write speed and 20% read speed, compared to plugging it directly into Thunderbolt 3 on my MacBook Air, using a USB C-to-C 10 Gbps cable.

My monitor has a USB-C connection that charges my M1 MacBook Air. It also connects a 2-port hub on the back of the monitor, but that hub is S L O W. It's fine for keyboards and mice, but too slow for drive access. It gives me only five percent of the speed my T7 drive can run!

So test that connection...
I am sure your new computer will prove to be mind-... (show quote)


That's all good information to know. Thanks!

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Mar 13, 2022 15:22:48   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
cjc2 wrote:
LG UltraFine 5k 27MD5K. Cost was @ $ 1200. Absolutely beautiful display that matches the iMac PRO display perfectly both in image and design. Attaches to the iMac via a TB3 connector (included). I think I bought it from B&H, if not from Apple. Best of luck.


Thanks for the monitor info. I am tempted to pass on the Studio display and get a pair of 24" LG/Dell monitors. Your monitor is no longer available, but LG has a nice set of monitors that should work fine.

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