OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919

Little of what you describe is creditable. Indeed SLR have been around a hundred years and not to harbor a light meter. Graflexes are a hundred years old just to name one. It has always stood along side ground glass and rangefinders and carefully calibrated distance scales. As for the mirrorless of 20 years ago which did not seem to take hold. Certainly the live viewfinder and live-view panels were in real time with electronic color modifications and the likes (live-historam). The one I described did not have an interchangeable lens---but I am sure others did. I like mine without an interchangeable lens since it is a camera built around an excellent F:2 zoom and therefore is faster focusing than interchangeable lenses. Also many controls are mounted on the lens body rather than the camera and menus. And the swivel allows a person to look straight down into the panel with the lens facing forward---a great advantage. Again---ahead of its time. And a new fad will supercede the current fondness for electronic viewing.-(timing is everything)--ew

zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas

We can disagree on history and definitions all day long. There are older cameras that used mirrors and prisms, but viewing generally was from the top, and metering was separate. The Kine Exakta of 1936 comes to mind. The SLR/DSLR systems that we know today indeed were introduced around 1960 by companies like Nikon and Pentax. These systems started to prevail at that time to allow for metering through the lens. But that fad has run its course now.

Yes, there have been mirrorless cameras forever, as I stated before. However, having interchangeable lenses in a digital camera with a sensor is the whole point of current mirrorless cameras, which is why they are also referred to as mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera (MILC). BTW: mirrorless lenses focus with blazing speed, and many have manual controls of the lens body, like the Sony GM lenses.

OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919

You say: "However, having interchangeable lenses in a digital camera with a sensor is the whole point of current mirrorless cameras, which is why they are also referred to as mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera (MILC). " No the point of mirrorless is not the interchangeable lens like in nearly all high end types of cameras----It is the electronic-only viewfinder and back panel with certain features above the direct lens viewing. That is what attracts people on this second round of offerings. For instance a brighter synthetic image and possible enlargement for close focus and other features not possible with actually looking at the photo subject. In SLRs---the Exakta VXIIa has an exposure meter built into the Penta prism as well as a split image for fine focus----and no batteries. And that precedes your dating.-----ew

tcthome Loc: NJ

Seen it. More of a history lesson. Pretty much common knowledge. The 1929 Leica was pretty cool to see. I guess Ted Forbes had to do his you tube blog thing. I imagine coming out with content could be pretty tough no matter how creative you are.

Canisdirus

Ironically...I saw Sony coming from the start of their camera releases...which were ...quirky...outside the known box at the time...Minolta mind melding was going on.
Minolta's amazing and future forward engineering coupled with an economic powerhouse (Sony).
Match made in Innovation heaven.
I had no idea where they were going of course...but man...it was so clear that they were on to something
Something for the consumers who want to think outside the box.

It was game on from there...and Sony did what few thought they could.

BebuLamar

Yes I agree that Sony did kill the DSLR. They did make a very fine DSLR, the A900, but they couldn't sell because their name is Sony. The A900 is about the same in performance as the Nikon D3x and its price is 1/3 of the D3x but Sony couldn't sell it well.

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

The video was clearly, step-wise logically, presented and worth a watch. Thank you gwilliams6 for generating the topic.

I dreamed of a Minolta i7000 while using a 1970 interchangeable lens camera. The dream was a nightmare of menus within menus but I did get the 50 and 200mm lenses. When Sony came out with the DSLR which would accept Minolta AF lenses, there was no choice; economics dictated. As time progressed, my lens stable became filled with the low-cost Minolta lenses that were sold from 1985 onward; millions of them.

Nikon and Canon were the royalty and Sony was well plebeian at best dismissed by the elite masses. Why? Because the Sony while technically excellent had no snob appeal... really a Minolta in disguise using Minolta lenses.

Sony RX-100 was Coup de gras: The subject video was well presented but stops too soon with the evolution which is now the pocket compact superzoom cameras that were pitched over into the "point and shoot" category; this Sony innovation was anything but, certainly not an el'cheap0 grandma's camera; Panasonic, then later Canon followed with their copies. I have a TZ-100 and my Sony A-65 and the Minolta lenses gather dust. With a 1" sensor and great in-camera electronics and my Topaz AI magic, the images are a perceivable** match for most cameras. Sony again stabbed body DSLR body in the heart. [sssss... we will not mention the new Pi-Phone by Elon Musk]

** The mind/eye and the environment, lighting, and such control what we see in the image. Is it presented on screen, be it computer or 50" TV, or is it printed small, 8x10, or on billboard prints. All of this blur the distinction between DSLR or Mirror multi-lens cameras and pocket high-end cameras. What is there, what we see, and what we perceive are the tricksters that confuse those with money holes in their pockets.
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/elements-of-visual-perception/
A series of discussions of human limitations:
https://nptel.ac.in/content/storage2/courses/117104069/chapter_2/2_intro.html

Perhaps in the future, Elon Musk's' Neuralink will go from camera to one's bluetoothed brain and by pass the eye.
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/8/28/21404802/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-machine-interface-research

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Definitely clickbait.

Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

I really hope he is right about the future of mirrorless cameras. If he is that is going to mean a flood of used DSLR on the market and lower prices. I neither need nor want the "advantages" offered by mirrorless. JMHO

BebuLamar

I am sorry I didn't hear anything about flood of used DSLR at lower price. I didn't watch the whole video. He is boring. But my prediction is that the DSLR is dead but the price on used ones don't go down.

Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana

I thought it was sensible and interesting. Definitely worth the few minutes to give it a look.

Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley

Why should there be a rule against discussing a video seen on youtube or elsewhere?
If you don't like certain discussions on UHH, do not participate. It is not up to you to determine what people can or can't do here, that is up to the moderators.
The last time I looked most of us here live in countries where free speech is allowed.

will

Bill_de Loc: US

Actually I did not say that. If you look back Old School added that to my post by failing to properly close the quote.

My post is on page 1 three posts above what Old School posted.
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Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley

Yes, I know. I was trying to Use OldSchool-Wi's quote and forgot to take your name off it.
I have corrected it.

will

Bill_de Loc: US