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Yes, Sony Killed the DSLR, By Art of Photography. What do you think AFTER watching the video?
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Jan 31, 2022 19:49:35   #
gwilliams6
 
Yes, Sony Killed the DSLR, By Art of Photography. What do you think, AFTER watching the video?

(replaced with correct link)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7NZleCVlYs


Cheers

Boy I know this one will raise some ire here in UHH.

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Jan 31, 2022 20:00:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Private group, only group members can see the content.

Do they have an outside link to the article?

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Jan 31, 2022 20:15:20   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
The title of the video may sound a bit clickbaity, but Ted Forbes (Art of Photography) gives us a fascinating and well-informed 15-minute survey of the evolution of the 35-mm camera and an interesting analysis of where we are now. Ted usually is more interested in aesthetic issues in photography, but he also knows the history of photography and tells the story in compelling ways. Here is the YouTube link of the video for those who don't want to go to Facebookistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7NZleCVlYs

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Jan 31, 2022 21:26:20   #
gwilliams6
 
zug55 wrote:
The title of the video may sound a bit clickbaity, but Ted Forbes (Art of Photography) gives us a fascinating and well-informed 15-minute survey of the evolution of the 35-mm camera and an interesting analysis of where we are now. Ted usually is more interested in aesthetic issues in photography, but he also knows the history of photography and tells the story in compelling ways. Here is the YouTube link of the video for those who don't want to go to Facebookistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7NZleCVlYs
The title of the video may sound a bit clickbaity,... (show quote)


thanks, sorry about the initial link folks.

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Jan 31, 2022 21:26:51   #
gwilliams6
 
The right link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7NZleCVlYs

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Jan 31, 2022 21:27:26   #
gwilliams6
 
zug55 wrote:
The title of the video may sound a bit clickbaity, but Ted Forbes (Art of Photography) gives us a fascinating and well-informed 15-minute survey of the evolution of the 35-mm camera and an interesting analysis of where we are now. Ted usually is more interested in aesthetic issues in photography, but he also knows the history of photography and tells the story in compelling ways. Here is the YouTube link of the video for those who don't want to go to Facebookistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7NZleCVlYs
The title of the video may sound a bit clickbaity,... (show quote)



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Jan 31, 2022 21:28:05   #
gwilliams6
 
Longshadow wrote:
Private group, only group members can see the content.

Do they have an outside link to the article?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7NZleCVlYs

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Jan 31, 2022 22:11:25   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Why don't you just describe the theme and reasons. I rarely like to sit through video explanations.----ew

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Jan 31, 2022 22:23:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Why don't you just describe the theme and reasons. I rarely like to sit through video explanations.----ew


Just can't please some people.

I did watch the entire video. It was very interesting, and although it was about Sony's evolution it was not a sales pitch.

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Jan 31, 2022 22:38:36   #
gwilliams6
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Why don't you just describe the theme and reasons. I rarely like to sit through video explanations.----ew


Why would I do your thinking for you, or rob you of the experience of gaining knowledge yourself. UHH isn't like choosing the auto setting on your camera. LOL

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Jan 31, 2022 22:43:14   #
gwilliams6
 
Bill_de wrote:
Just can't please some people.

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Jan 31, 2022 23:51:59   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
[quote=Bill_de]Just can't please some people.

I did watch the entire video. It was very interesting, and although it was about Sony's evolution it was not a sales pitch.

There should be a rule against forming a discussion around a video on Youtube or elsewhere. But, then--I don't have to respond.----------

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Feb 1, 2022 00:57:27   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Why don't you just describe the theme and reasons. I rarely like to sit through video explanations.----ew


It really is an interesting video worth watching. Ted Forbes is just an interesting and engaging character whose insight is a cut above that of most other YouTubers.

Ted sees Sony's purchase of Minolta in 2006 as the turning point. Sony has strategically planned the rollout of mirrorless ever since. The introduction of the E-mount in 2010 with the NEX-3 set the stage. The A7 III, introduced in early 2018, had overcome all the problems of earlier versions and became so successful that Canon and Nikon were forced to jump on the bandwagon. While they have come up with good mirrorless cameras, so Ted's point, Sony with their ten-year head start will continue to be the strategic thinker and innovator in the business that the others will have to follow.

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Feb 1, 2022 01:12:50   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
zug55 wrote:
It really is an interesting video worth watching. Ted Forbes is just an interesting and engaging character whose insight is a cut above that of most other YouTubers.

Ted sees Sony's purchase of Minolta in 2006 as the turning point. Sony has strategically planned the rollout of mirrorless ever since. The introduction of the E-mount in 2010 with the NEX-3 set the stage. The A7 III, introduced in early 2018, had overcome all the problems of earlier versions and became so successful that Canon and Nikon were forced to jump on the bandwagon. While they have come up with good mirrorless cameras, so Ted's point, Sony with their ten-year head start will continue to be the strategic thinker and innovator in the business that the others will have to follow.
It really is an interesting video worth watching. ... (show quote)


Thanks for the description: As I have pointed out before---I have their "mirrorless" before any purchase of Minolta---the DSC-F828, for instance with both video and IR capabilities, a unique swivel up and down of the huge lens and outside ergonomic functions. Also--a four color 8 megapixel Bayer sensor and an F:2--vario-sonnar Zeiss lens. Didn't go over then and that was the last of the L shaped line. But now it seems mirrorless is all the temporary rage.-----ew

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Feb 1, 2022 02:02:37   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
As I have pointed out before---I have their "mirrorless" before any purchase of Minolta---the DSC-F828, for instance with both video and IR capabilities, a unique swivel up and down of the huge lens and outside ergonomic functions. Also--a four color 8 megapixel Bayer sensor and an F:2--vario-sonnar Zeiss lens. Didn't go over then and that was the last of the L shaped line. But now it seems mirrorless is all the temporary rage.-----ew


There have been mirrorless cameras throughout history, even early experimental digital models. The technology of through-the-lens light metering that introduced prisms and mirrors into camera designs was pioneered by Nikon and first used in 1960. As it turns out, the single-lens reflex camera (SLR) and its latter-day brother DSLR had a good run (ca 1960-2020), but we can safely say now that the technology has become obsolete.

Remember that prisms and mirrors were just a crutch to allow metering through the lens. With digital sensors, we no longer need that crutch as the sensor does more than just record the image. Mirrorless is not a "temporary rage," it is here to stay. Of course, future technology may use our eyeballs as lenses and cameras as physical boxes may cease to exist altogether.

Current mirrorless cameras differ greatly from older distant cousins:
1) They use a sensor, not film.
2) They use interchangeable lenses.
3) They use the sensor to give you continuous readouts, which allows you to control everything the camera does in real time.

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